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ok wow closed at 20 cents today. my $500 profit turned into $500 loss lol
i shud really start using stop losses...i just didnt expect it to drop the day i bought it haha

buy and sell volume are about equal with only 1.5 mill more selling volume. i think we might see a drop tommorrow.

i wish i scraped togther capital yesterday instead of today -_-

but cfu in the medium and long term looks great. but does anyone know if we shall be expecting any more news soon? need to recover my losses first lol
 
Furien I've had that happen to me a few times in my short trading life so I've decided never to chase a 0-day spike (so to speak) until I've monitored it for a few more sessions, or I've already researched it thoroughly, esp. with small caps.

I've had biotechs that spike from 1 to 7, I buy in around 5 then it falls back to 3 in the same day or the next day etc. harsh but necessary learning experiences

your mileage may vary, do your own research etc.
 
CFU does look very exciting... but then it has looked exciting many times in the past 17 years.

I remember a couple of years ago it appeared to be developing its Fuel cell for a European market. All on the go.

And then ? What happened?

Certainly want to believe the current prototype will make it to market and will be successful. It's just that the track record to date is not great.:(
 
fureien said:
buy and sell volume are about equal with only 1.5 mill more selling volume. i think we might see a drop tommorrow.
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I sure hope your right Furien, if this stock drops much lower I will thank my lucky stars and pick up even more. Buying opportunities like this rarely knock twice. Now that the product has been officially launched in Australia CFU will finally get the recognition it deserves.
 
bugmenot said:
I sure hope your right Furien, if this stock drops much lower I will thank my lucky stars and pick up even more. Buying opportunities like this rarely knock twice. Now that the product has been officially launched in Australia CFU will finally get the recognition it deserves.
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I think you are absolutely right. It could be matter of few days then will start to go up!!!!. Interested to know that what is the openion of the chart expert!!!. A nice chart explantion would explain everything.
 
with this company i look at the ratio of risk versus reward

in this green environment and carbon neutral world the upside for the stock can be huge

what will new housing energy requirements be like in 2016 ?
will a product like this receive govt subsides like solar energy is now ?

i look to the future hold a parcel and put it away in the bottom drawer
 
ive been watching this stock every day for the last 2 weeks.

i was going to "buy in at 12 cents then 12.5 then 13.." but like many do i guess i kept watching watching watching.

today i put an order in 30,000 @ 0.25

it opened at 0.26, 0.26.5 27.0 then it went back down to 0.255

at which point it appeared that it wasn't looking good (when i examined the market depth) for the day so i cancelled the order. then i saw it go to .28c. at which point i stopped looking at it until after the close where i saw the 20c closing price. but none the less.

i will be having a closer look at this in the pre open again on wednesday

its getting to an attractive price and think there is room to more

im only looking for a swing of a few cents to make 1k for example.

for ex. 30,000 bought at the open for 20c and sold for 23.5 would net 1050 minus brokerage of 39.95 for a net of $1010

something like that
 
craigj said:
with this company i look at the ratio of risk versus reward

in this green environment and carbon neutral world the upside for the stock can be huge

what will new housing energy requirements be like in 2016 ?
will a product like this receive govt subsides like solar energy is now ?

i look to the future hold a parcel and put it away in the bottom drawer
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Somebody from other forum has seen the BlueGen from one of the uk forums, he assume it was the sky news thing played over the weekend. Following is the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3jiZPEDmyk
 
basilio said:
CFU does look very exciting... but then it has looked exciting many times in the past 17 years.
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Certainly want to believe the current prototype will make it to market and will be successful. It's just that the track record to date is not great.:(
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Hi Basilio
I am encouraged that 17 years research and development has gone into this product, (thanks I hadnt realised that till your note).
The road to success is not an easy one, back then I guess this concept would have been really out there (and probably still is). Looks to me like a potential gamechanger (but I am no expert). I like the idea of selling something back to a utility.
 
Some of the daytraders got shaken out yesterday.
Looking forward to the continuation of more substantial rises this week though it has to level out at some point.

I like the company because it is so close to mahufacture (leter this year) and competes so well with the major power companies. I don't think it wwill ever be that big in Australia as we don't need the heating. Japan and Northern Europe should find their product very competitive as well as green.
 
Hi all,

My first forum. Have been following and holding CFU for several years . My first purchase was 5000 @ $1 :banghead:about two years ago and averaging in since, closing with a 100,000@ 5 cents rights issue. CFU are only months from production in Australia and Germany and have major distribution companies set up to market the product in many cold countries( ie.Germany, Japan etc.) around the world. It produces hot water which will replace existing boilers (for warming) which are in every house in cold climates. If this bluegen replaces existing hot water systems which are huge power burners in the warmer areas and generates enough electricity to power a house it's got the thumbs up from me. For what it's worth, if you were to purchase a [solar] energizer system for power,you would require 2 x 8000-9000kWh solar systems @ $42,000 each after the $8,000 Gov. rebate each not to mention the solar hot water system you would still need to purchase. Why would you do that if you could purchase a Bluegen for eight grand to do the same job. Do your own research.
 
ThingyMajiggy said:
What makes you think this? Personally I wouldn't be getting too excited.

Interested as to what you can see in it, I might have missed something.
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like many have said already they close to production and the product looks very promising. we are in a greener age. and CFU's product seems not only environmentally friendly, but its more efficient and cheaper too. isnt that a win win for everyone?
government would be mad not to utilise it.
 
Has anyone looked at various scenarios of future earnings to determine what this stock might be worth? For example, what are the company's own projections/hopes for BlueGen sales and profits?
 
all hot air until they can show me the money

the figure of unit price they show are for victoria seem very cheap
not sure it works with other cities...you need to look up the unit price for gas and electricity for each city

ie it's all dependent on how much you pay for you gas and electricity
 
ROE said:
all hot air until they can show me the money

the figure of unit price they show are for victoria seem very cheap
not sure it works with other cities...you need to look up the unit price for gas and electricity for each city

ie it's all dependent on how much you pay for you gas and electricity
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Roe, in Australia we get very cheap hydrocarbon fuel compared to the main commercial markets for SOFC technology. This is part of the reason why CFU are focusing their efforts on UK, Europe and Japan. Climate and population are also obvious factors, aswell as government support.

If this unit can work in Australia with a ROI of 7 years then it is going to kick some serious **** in countries where most of those factors are positives (in Australia they are negatives).

We have low population, low fuel costs, low government support and warm climate and Bluegen is still very competitive. I think it is largely a marketing excercise in Australia, although it could provide some initial cashflow to get mass production supported in Europe.
 
TROUT323 said:
Why would you do that if you could purchase a Bluegen for eight grand to do the same job. Do your own research.
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The solar, once installed, is free for the next 25+ years although even then it's not really economic. The Bluegen has ongoing costs for gas that would likely increase over time.

It's a lot more complicated than simply comparing capital costs.
 
Smurf1976 said:
The solar, once installed, is free for the next 25+ years although even then it's not really economic. The Bluegen has ongoing costs for gas that would likely increase over time.

It's a lot more complicated than simply comparing capital costs.
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Also, solar has zero emissions and the sun won't run out, while BlueGen still produces CO2 and is dependent on a fossil fuel. It is a vast improvement on coal-fired power stations, but less of an improvement on the most modern gas-fired power stations, which can have an efficiency of 60%.
 
ROE said:
all hot air until they can show me the money

the figure of unit price they show are for victoria seem very cheap
not sure it works with other cities...you need to look up the unit price for gas and electricity for each city

ie it's all dependent on how much you pay for you gas and electricity
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The important figure is the ratio of the cost of electricity to the cost of gas. The higher this ratio, the more cost-effective the BlueGen will be. I've just spent the last 15 minutes trying to find the retail cost of gas and electricity around the world, with little success. Can anyone else do any better?
 
lol u guys are making me lose confidence. personally i think it will do well. but we wont see any of that anytime soon. in terms of bluegen. i think cost of gas is a big issue. i do believe its efficiency and overall cheaper electricity is a big plus. it may not be say, an alternative or a better solution than solar energy, but if you replace coal stations with it at least thats a win win for everybody. i dont see solar panels replacing coal stations, i dont think they can feasibly handle as much output
 
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