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Nice to see a director buying 10 mill shares.:)
Funny day on the market today, flat and sideways.:eek:
Hopefully another good night on the DOW tonight, if the mexican flu doesnt get them.:(
 
Interesting move today (potential/outstanding breakout??) - now that capital raising is done it appears that SP is on the move again? Definitely has longer term potential if they can get some of their European partners to hook up definite production runs.
 
Up another 25%+ today, on top of several other big rises

has hit a big Ask of 19c now

glad I took up the capital raising at 5c a few weeks ago

wish i had put the house on it

good announcement today, took a while to take off after it
 
I was just about to post the recent move, almost doubled in the last 4 days........kicking myself I didn't take up the entitlement:banghead:
Although I've averaged down twice and quadrupled my initial holding, current cost is sitting at 14.5c so it's nice to have my holding back in the green:D

This is another of my long term holds as I believe they have a great potential with their product:cool:

cheers
 
Up another 31% today on staggering 70 mil volume.

The announcement re new "Bluegen" unit seems to have created a stir.

Do any of the interested have any figures on cost of generation?...Would be nice to compare 'cents per Kilowatt hour' with other technology.

Very glad I took up the offer at 5 cents.Good luck to all the faithful

Cheers y'all :)
 
hmm although i would have most definitely like to have bought in before the huge surge today. volume looks to be steady. if pre open stays the same on monday. it looks like the price might actually hold as opposed a huge taking of profits. possible long term buy
 
Boyou said:
Up another 31% today on staggering 70 mil volume.

The announcement re new "Bluegen" unit seems to have created a stir.

Do any of the interested have any figures on cost of generation?...Would be nice to compare 'cents per Kilowatt hour' with other technology.

Very glad I took up the offer at 5 cents.Good luck to all the faithful

Cheers y'all :)
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Hi Boyou,

There is a great presentation on the latest new product (BlueGen)announcement here:
http://www.cfcl.com.au/Assets/Files/20090522_CFCL_BlueGen_Launch_22May09.pdf

The take away points for me:
- BlueGen can produce up to 17,000 KwH per year. Apparently enough to power your house, plus your neighbours!
- The BlueGen units can be connected to the interwebs and turned on and off by the utility company or govt owner etc. Dynamic load balancing etc.
- BlueGen also creates enough heat to produce 200 litres of hot water per day
- BlueGenforecast to generate electricity at a cost of 11.1 cents per kWh
- 39% cheaper than current Victorian electricity prices (18.1 cents per kW incl GST)

BlueGen is forecast to cost around $8,000 per unit in mass production
- ROI of seven years, product lifetime of 15 years

This is definitely a long term buy and hold for me. I bought 15,000 at 7c and then another 10,000 at 19c after todays announcement.

-BMN
 
Ceramic Fuel Cells launches modular generator product
Signs MoU with VicUrban

A few points from the announcement:
-Victorian Premier John Brumby launched the BlueGen product at CFU's head office.
-If CFU's products replace just 7% of current usage, Vic will reach the Feds 5% CO2 reduction well before 2020.
-CFU signed a Memorandum of Understanding with VicUrban
-BlueGen planned to be installed in VicUrban building in Dandenong by the end of this year
-3 more demo units installed in other VicUrban developments
-VicUrban's portfolio includes over 50,000 houses to be built by 2020
-"VicUrban is delighted to be partnering with a CFU to help promote a product which could become the next generation of sustainable energy technology in Australian homes" VicUrban CEO
-BlueGen has an overall efficiency of up to 85%, compared to about 25% efficiency of Victoria’s current coal-fired power stations.
-BlueGen unit uses up to 95% less water than Victoria’s current coal-fired power stations to generate the same amount of electricity

Also the Business channel has been running the story on CFU's BlueGen release all weekend :D

I'm even considering a BlueGen unit for our next house:cool:

cheers
 
MACCA350 said:
BlueGen has an overall efficiency of up to 85%, compared to about 25% efficiency of Victoria’s current coal-fired power stations.
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The vast majority of coal-fired capacity in Vic is operating at 27 - 30% thermal efficiency with only one plant lower than that range.

It might not sound like much, but 30% efficiency is 20% better than 25% when you do all the maths... :2twocents:)
 
Smurf1976 said:
The vast majority of coal-fired capacity in Vic is operating at 27 - 30% thermal efficiency with only one plant lower than that range.

It might not sound like much, but 30% efficiency is 20% better than 25% when you do all the maths... :2twocents:)
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Are you kidding SMurf?! 85% efficiency is 283% better than 30% when you do all the maths - there is no comparison.
 
Thanks Bugemont!
I actually just found this info on their website and was about to post it up.

I think the news is outstanding..CFU have had a couple of major setbacks lately..the Nuon deal going belly up and capital losses due to bad investments.
Hope the current SP rise can be sustained on the back of this news.
Also it is heartening to see the Melbourne based company is being recognised in it's home state.
Australia can be world leaders in the Greenhouse Gas challenge!

Good luck to all .

Cheers Y'all :)
 
jonojpsg said:
Are you kidding SMurf?! 85% efficiency is 283% better than 30% when you do all the maths - there is no comparison.
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No argument there. I'm just pointing out that the least thermally efficient major energy source used for power generation in Australia isn't quite as inefficient as its detractors often claim. 25 vs 30% is a significant difference.

As for doing a proper comparisson of fuel cells, you'd have to start with the same primary resource and include all the transformation steps along the way. Starting with coal versus gas is a bit like putting one driver in a Ferrari and other in an old Morris and concluding that the one in the Ferrari is a faster driver.

If you start with gas ex-processing plant then it's roughly 55% versus 85% assuming we're talking about state of the art plant under optimum conditions in both cases.

If you start with black coal and compare an ultrasupercritical boiler versus the fuel cells and coal gasification then it's still around 42% versus 55% depending on how you go about the coal gasification.

So it's certainly more efficient. But the 25% versus 85% bit is a bit like the Morris and the Ferrari...
 
I've just been doing some research into Co2 emissions and where Australia stands - the CFU presentation mentioned that Victoria has the highest Co2 emissions per capita. This creates an even bigger upside potential for the kinds of technology that CFCL provides.

Some good quotes found on this page:

http://www.aussmc.org/US_Report-Australia_top_emitter.php

"Australia has a high dependence on cheap coal based power generation with 77% of our power coming from coal. In a total emissions sense, Australia emits about 1% of the world’s emissions."

"The key message for Australia is that our poor greenhouse performance will increasingly attract international attention, if we don't start soon to reduce emissions, especially from the energy sector. Action is needed not only to shift to gas-fired and renewable electricity generation, but also to reverse the growth in electricity consumption by investing in more efficient buildings, appliances and industrial processes. A succession of recent major international studies conclude that such investments can actually provide a better financial return than expanding electricity supply – yet state governments continue to advance proposals for new power stations."

"Some of the Victorian stations, which are smaller than the above-mentioned NSW stations, have 50% more CO2 emissions per megawatt-hour than the black coal stations. Most notable is Hazelwood (1600 megawatts), which has the highest greenhouse intensity (about 1.5 tonnes CO2 per megawatt-hour) in Australia and possibly one of the highest in the world. Recently the Victorian government granted the owners of Hazelwood permission to open another coal mine, thus extending the lifetime of this ancient, dirty power station by up to 22 years."
 
I have been watching cfu and other alternative energy stocks for a while and bought in a little while ago. While taking some hits I have stuck with them and took up the offer at 5c, so a some shortfall has been relieved. I was pleased to see the BlueGen announcement on Friday, but did not see any mention of it in the WA papers. Can anyone tell me if the papers in the east picked up the story? I was searching for news and came accross this site (impressed so I joined).
 
jbocker said:
I have been watching cfu and other alternative energy stocks for a while and bought in a little while ago. While taking some hits I have stuck with them and took up the offer at 5c, so a some shortfall has been relieved. I was pleased to see the BlueGen announcement on Friday, but did not see any mention of it in the WA papers. Can anyone tell me if the papers in the east picked up the story? I was searching for news and came accross this site (impressed so I joined).
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jblocker;438814
Go to CFU website www.cfcl.com.au/news
You should be able to pick up all the news you are looking for.
 
jbocker said:
I have been watching cfu and other alternative energy stocks for a while and bought in a little while ago. While taking some hits I have stuck with them and took up the offer at 5c, so a some shortfall has been relieved. I was pleased to see the BlueGen announcement on Friday, but did not see any mention of it in the WA papers. Can anyone tell me if the papers in the east picked up the story? I was searching for news and came accross this site (impressed so I joined).
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Had a buy order in at 0.068 when they were sitting at 0.071 kicking myself I didn't raise that price slightly right about now.:banghead:
 
Thanks noco. The company site is very informative. Was wondering if the BlueGen news was in the newspapers, as it could promote new investment interest in the company (Is that a good guide?). Looking at todays prices and volume there is certainly still some good attention on the stock. And dont fret too much Gohawks after this rush of interest the prices will probably retreat somewhat and another buy opportunity will come. The completion of the manufacturing plant and (hopefully) an eventual big European uptake would certainly give this company a much greater future. Are ceramic fuel cells an accepted form of energy source already? I cant say I have heard much of the idea, at least being used at a commercial scale.
Cheers.
 
well i think the chance has come go hawks (maybe not at 7 cents though). i bought in at 0.255 this morning. watched it go up to 0.28 relaxed and went for lunch. came back and i lost what i would have gained lol. but 20 cents might be a new support and this stock has a bright future. so i guess im not worried
 
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