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Census - 9 August 2016

I still can't get past the Complete my Census front page.

Probably pointless but have you refreshed your browser Doc?

From the Census site:
The Census website is now available

We apologise for the inconvenience and thank everyone for their patience.
 
Governments can't do anything properly can they? That's really the issue - their widespread and repeated incompetence.

Whether it's a schools building program, the pink bats scandal, $1000 cash handouts to stimulate the economy, failed intelligance (WMD), ASIO being hacked and sensitive data stolen by the Chinese (what a joke!), budgets repeatedly blown up, and now the census, ... Could go on and on.

They just suck. Left/right/Green. Politicians are just sucky, incompetent fwits. And big business knows how to take them for a ride and ensure everything goes over budget.
 

Unfortunately quite correct. Which is why we have idiots like Trump and Hanson taking the populist position and conning people into thinking they could do a better job, when in fact their ignorance is so appalling that they would make a worse stuff up than the last lot

Should we just let public servants run the country ? At least the PS has some expertise in it which, if unadulterated by political pressures may actually make some correct decisions.

It's the constant striving by politicians to differentiate themselves from "the other side" that causes most of these problems. I heard Morrison today trying to blame Labor for the census stuff up. What a sick pathetic joke the man is and most like him.
 
A piece this afternoon in the AFR,


http://www.afr.com/technology/ibm-under-fire-as-census-blame-game-starts-20160811-gqqkdu

Probably pointless but have you refreshed your browser Doc?
I'm on a different PC now, same router/landline internet.

The following page is the one I can't get past.

https://stream10.census.abs.gov.au/eCensusWeb/welcome.jsp#top2

When I click on Complete my Census, it opens up the same page on a new web browser page. Clicking on the same link on that page just refreshes that page.

If worst comes to the worst, I'll try from a different internet account.
 
I wonder if they have a $705,000 per annum exec approving a taxpayer funded $10m contract to supply the computing system for this !

They may as well try again I guess, after all it is just (someone else's) money

http://www.petcensus.com.au/
 
One of the news networks said tonight, that some of the the paper envelopes are being returned to the senders, as Australia Post misread the bar codes.
 
Politicians are just sucky, incompetent fwits. And big business knows how to take them for a ride and ensure everything goes over budget.
That's exactly how it works and it's why government getting involved with private business tends to not work out too well from the taxpayer's perspective. It's a great deal for business though.
 
Should we just let public servants run the country ? At least the PS has some expertise in it which, if unadulterated by political pressures may actually make some correct decisions.

Having worked in the (state) PS as such, my observation is that the ability and knowledge of public servants is greatly underrated by the media and general community. It's not bad at all. Presumably the Commonwealth PS would be similar?

The trouble is that at a certain level of seniority the political influence takes over and as with any workplace, it's those at the top who ultimately call the shots. That's where the truly dumb things are forced in (and "forced" tends to be the correct term there - they know full well it will cost more and won't work as well but it's forced in regardless for political reasons).

I've seen some truly first class work done in the PS. I've also seen it all dumped in favour of paying someone external serious $ for a greatly inferior result. $5K one-off to do it "in house" with all costs accounted for (even including overheads on staff) replaced with $15K, twice, to outsource it and former colleagues tell me that to this day it has never worked. Politics is the reason, the PS workers would gladly have just done it themselves if they were allowed to.
 

If you get outside sources to do something they have to spend half the time talking to the staff to find out what's actually needed, whereas as you say the staff can do it themselves at a fraction of the cost and time because they know what needs to be done.

I was in the same situation myself. I wrote a computer system that worked (at a cost of just my salary) then it was hived off to consultants to re-write at 5 times the cost, and I'm not sure if it's been implemented yet 5 years after I left.
 
Why is the fact that the ABS seems to have mislead the public about what caused the meltdown not getting more attention? You have IT people saying it wasn't a DDOS and the system would have fallen over from legitimate traffic because it was built with insufficient capacity.
 
Oh bloody dear. Possibly the members of this particular group should be included in the "Also God's Children" category and and data they may provide relegated to the dustbin of outliers.

 
I wonder whether the following might be the issue,


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-12/census-2016-site-up-and-running-in-australia/7722738

I'm however going through a land line router purchased through a major ISP and I'm not hiding behind a VPN.

I've since tried through a mobile phone account and was able to get to the login page to enter the 12-digit code. I didn't enter the code at that point but rather tried again through the router and then again through the mobile account with both attempts unsuccessful.

It would appear from the mobile experience above that a person only gets one attempt to access the census login from a specific internet enabled device so I'm back to square one.

I have one more option through another connection which I'll be trying later today. If That fails, I'll have to ring the number on the letter I got from the ABS and request a paper form.
 
I have one more option through another connection which I'll be trying later today. If That fails, I'll have to ring the number on the letter I got from the ABS and request a paper form.

Good to see you are a good citizen and trying everything you can to get it done rather that telling the ABS to pi$$ off which I think a lot of people will do.
 

Because nobody believed it anyway
 
Good to see you are a good citizen and trying everything you can to get it done rather that telling the ABS to pi$$ off which I think a lot of people will do.

"When was that meant to be? The 9th??? Sorry, I can't remember."
 

You don't really know that for sure.
And anyway, we expected incompetency.
Clever country..pah!

They are building overpasses for train crossings in Victoria at present, one crossing has a handicapped ramp only. You have to walk nearly a kilometre to cross over the track! No stairs!

I work with architects, there is now no such thing as a disabled access toilet, it is now a Unisex toilet (to portray it is suitable for non genders, what the????, still used for disabled).

This country is starting to disappear up its own ****.
 
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