Cashless society

[frugal.rock]

Interesting to see English and some form of monkey script alongside it

"monkey script". Haven't heard that before in reference to written Chinese.
Perhaps it was popular back in the white Australia policy day's.

The point of the pic was to show that even a manually staffed checkout can have automated cash handling facilities. No need to abandon cash.

Other agendas are off topic.

 

[farmerge]

"monkey script". Haven't heard that before in reference to written Chinese.
Perhaps it was popular back in the white Australia policy day's.

The point of the pic was to show that even a manually staffed checkout can have automated cash handling facilities. No need to abandon cash.

Other agendas are off topic.

I wouldn't know if it was Chinese or whatever. Whats wrong with them learning how to converse and read English. It's a big thing with me.

 

[frugal.rock]

I wouldn't know if it was Chinese or whatever. Whats wrong with them learning how to converse and read English. It's a big thing with me.

You have spoken fondly regarding the Malay Chinese that you purchase your Chinese takeaway or dine in food at.
I guess that's where the fondness stops.

I reckon they should make their menu all Chinese characters and make you speak Chinese if you want to order. Just you though ?

 

[Value Collector]

I wouldn't know if it was Chinese or whatever. Whats wrong with them learning how to converse and read English. It's a big thing with me.

Plenty of reasons, if you have ever visited foreign nations with large communities of English speaking workers or tourists you will find a lot of signs in English.

1, Learning to speak and especially read a new language takes a long time, so even if they are learning people may need signs in other languages.

2, People from non English speaking countries visiting family here are unlikely to speak English. Eg think of an English speaking Australian going to visit their daughter that’s just had a baby in Italy, they are unlikely to read Italian, same for Chinese visitors here

3, Some immigrant families bring older relatives such as parents over to help look after the kids while they parents are busy being doctors or dentists, the aging parents will probably won’t bother learning much English.

 

[farmerge]

Plenty of reasons, if you have ever visited foreign nations with large communities of English speaking workers or tourists you will find a lot of signs in English.

1, Learning to speak and especially read a new language takes a long time, so even if they are learning people may need signs in other languages.

2, People from non English speaking countries visiting family here are unlikely to speak English. Eg think of an English speaking Australian going to visit their daughter that’s just had a baby in Italy, they are unlikely to read Italian, same for Chinese visitors here

3, Some immigrant families bring older relatives such as parents over to help look after the kids while they parents are busy being doctors or dentists, the aging parents will probably won’t bother learning much English.

Mr Value I can see where you are coming from on this. I was brought up in a suburb that had a lot of misplaced persons after WWII. Probably was about 50 per cent English speaking, the rest from all over Europe. We as kids had our own language whih only we understood. A bit of English, Italian, Russian etc.
The father's of these immigrant kids learnt English pretty quickly even though it was liberally sprinkled with 4 letter words. The mothers who were definitely stay at home mothers, spoke a weird mix of two languages., but to their credit learnt the lingo and ALWAYS spoke English, when outside of the home. Their persistence in learning at 30ish years of age left a lasting inprssion on me, hence my earlier take on the matter.

 

[Value Collector]

Mr Value I can see where you are coming from on this. I was brought up in a suburb that had a lot of misplaced persons after WWII. Probably was about 50 per cent English speaking, the rest from all over Europe. We as kids had our own language whih only we understood. A bit of English, Italian, Russian etc.
The father's of these immigrant kids learnt English pretty quickly even though it was liberally sprinkled with 4 letter words. The mothers who were definitely stay at home mothers, spoke a weird mix of two languages., but to their credit learnt the lingo and ALWAYS spoke English, when outside of the home. Their persistence in learning at 30ish years of age left a lasting inprssion on me, hence my earlier take on the matter.

Even people that learn to speak English, often struggle to learn to read it, so if you are a local business in one of these migrant communities it might be good business sense to have some of the important signs in both languages.

 

[Value Collector]

"monkey script". Haven't heard that before in reference to written Chinese.
Perhaps it was popular back in the white Australia policy day's.

The point of the pic was to show that even a manually staffed checkout can have automated cash handling facilities. No need to abandon cash.

Other agendas are off topic.

Those automated cash handling facilities still have significant costs, and as cash becomes less and less popular the that cost is spread across fewer and fewer transactions, making the cash handling more and more expensive over time.

 

[Value Collector]

I am taking the wife to a concert tomorrow, and just saw the email they sent us states twice that cash isn’t accepted at the venue.

Both car parking fee and all purchases inside the venue are cashless, I think management of the event are seeing cash handling as being too troublesome, expensive and risky.

 

[moXJO]

Mr Value I can see where you are coming from on this. I was brought up in a suburb that had a lot of misplaced persons after WWII. Probably was about 50 per cent English speaking, the rest from all over Europe. We as kids had our own language whih only we understood. A bit of English, Italian, Russian etc.
The father's of these immigrant kids learnt English pretty quickly even though it was liberally sprinkled with 4 letter words. The mothers who were definitely stay at home mothers, spoke a weird mix of two languages., but to their credit learnt the lingo and ALWAYS spoke English, when outside of the home. Their persistence in learning at 30ish years of age left a lasting inprssion on me, hence my earlier take on the matter.

Signs like that help people learn English. Sometimes you get FOB's that need to function.
I helped a bunch of Thais recently start a business. 1of them speaks English. They employ a few Aussies as well. Good people too. They try to learn but some people are just terrible at language (it takes me forever to get basic language). If you want them speaking it faster then signs help.

Asian culture can seem strange to an outsider at first. But most have strong family/friendship ties and a hard work ethic. It's impressive their ability to overcome obstacles.

 

[divs4ever]

I am taking the wife to a concert tomorrow, and just saw the email they sent us states twice that cash isn’t accepted at the venue.

Both car parking fee and all purchases inside the venue are cashless, I think management of the event are seeing cash handling as being too troublesome, expensive and risky.

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awesome , thanks for the warning , in the unlikely event i ever decide to go there

 

[farmerge]

Mr Value this makes me wonder if this e-mail is actually legal. As far as i am aware cash is still legal tender and cannot be refused as a form of payment.
Any lawyers in the forum to enlighten me on this.

 

[divs4ever]

Mr Value this makes me wonder if this e-mail is actually legal. As far as i am aware cash is still legal tender and cannot be refused as a form of payment.
Any lawyers in the forum to enlighten me on this.

of course it isn't legal , but who will wade through a corrupted justice system to contest it ??

however i will take the opportunity to extend my lifetime boycott of the facility

 

[farmerge]

of course it isn't legal , but who will wade through a corrupted justice system to contest it ??

however i will take the opportunity to extend my lifetime boycott of the facility

Divs me being here and the event being over there, I too will join with you in boycaotting the joint

 

[divs4ever]

Divs me being here and the event being over there, I too will join with you in boycaotting the joint

ahhh , a Gandhi adherent ... welcome

a very interesting strategy that one .

 

[Craton]

Cashless venue eh.
Isn't that blatant discrimination by choosing to exclude those who wish to pay by cash or, have a reason for not carrying plastic or, do not have a "smart" phone or, have a legitimate personal reason to deal only in and with cash?

Like other ASF members boycotting the venue, in solidarity and distance notwithstanding, I am too.

 

[moXJO]

I am taking the wife to a concert tomorrow, and just saw the email they sent us states twice that cash isn’t accepted at the venue.

Both car parking fee and all purchases inside the venue are cashless, I think management of the event are seeing cash handling as being too troublesome, expensive and risky.

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Interesting that you have to pay upfront for parking. Obviously it was abused before.

 

[Dona Ferentes]

Interesting that you have to pay upfront for parking. Obviously it was abused before.

More along the lines that, as everyone leaves at the same time, when the function ends, then its easier and less frustratung to just open the gates?

 

[moXJO]

More along the lines that, as everyone leaves at the same time, when the function ends, then its easier and less frustratung to just open the gates?

Possibly, but wouldn't you risk missing the event if everyone is queued to pay to get in?
Unless it's all online?

Also everyone rushing the exits sounds about the same. I suppose the question to pay tickets at the end would be the same.

 

[Value Collector]

Interesting that you have to pay upfront for parking. Obviously it was abused before.

That’s how pretty much most events are, they collect the money on the way in, the last thing they want is slowing people down collecting payments when the stadium is emptying out at the end of the night, the traffic jams are bad enough as it is.

 

[divs4ever]

Possibly, but wouldn't you risk missing the event if everyone is queued to pay to get in?
Unless it's all online?

Also everyone rushing the exits sounds about the same. I suppose the question to pay tickets at the end would be the same.

i wonder how swift the refunds are if the event has a crisis ??