CanOz
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Another try at scalping while waiting for FB to open last night got me thinking about how hard it is to trade against the market, for most. This is the DAX.
Most of the profitable trades were made by selling a spike up or buying one down. Quite often i waited until the price tapped the MA. I will post a chart later with the entries on it. All on the sim of course.
It was amazing how quickly i could make up the losses, and how after a while it felt more natural and the entries were much much better.. I'm sure TH would have some advice here, or others that scalp, Joules?
Any way i am going to keep myself from looking at my auto system by learning to scalp indexs, so I'll start another thread on the HSI later too.
Have a great weekend.
CanOz
Another try at scalping while waiting for FB to open last night got me thinking about how hard it is to trade against the market, for most. This is the DAX.
CanOz
part ii
on the way down you can see clear accum clear distribution...two diff sets of hands you can see the liquidity game changed in the final thrust bars down...... so has the auction completed here......., volat and volumes would have died down, that's your obvious first clue for bias, the rate of price change and the width of it is different....i dont mean filtered through a metric, i mean, with tiny size on you have an onus to be aware of the activity within each bar and who's likely to be in, who's left the auction and the purpose of the last thrust down not just to stop distrib's but to get weak supply..the questions youre asking need to be different, that's the key here i think, a new set of questions rather than a new set of answers from a metric and you can call that touchy feely approach if you like, but if youre ever going to read the auction your focus needs to be at the present with the price rather than chained to what drags behind it .....i'd want to see much more of the larger time frame history for other context ideas before entering.......
more ideas
Agree with Jules.
But I'm less methodical.
I dont scalp--I like to ride a while
I may take 4-8 trades and get stopped at B/E as I move my stops to B/E really quickly---before one keeps going. Just a different way of trading.
Prefer the FTSE and have never traded the SPX.
FTSE much more Technically tolerant.
I also dont and wouldn't use indicators.
I would however look for opportunity to have at least a contract or so on a longer term position trade.
(Note to self to bloody well do it!!!).
This is on market replay, I cheated......
CanOz
........ i am using market replay its the real deal, i just don't have level II for the DOM with eSignal. I download the day if i don't have it and press play and it replays the session on the chart so i can trade it just as if it were live except i can speed it up.
Again i was just trying to trade with the short term trend entering on pullbacks with a wide stop (20 ticks) and taking 2-6 ticks profit each time.
I like something to show divergence.
Yeah fair enough. Thou its too late to see divergence once its happened in an indicator when scalping so they are probably of no use in that case. You cannot scalp by reacting. You need to be thinking ahead one or two moves. You need to plan a few trades ahead or you will not be able to keep loses to a few ticks. If you want to scalp.
The only thing in the DOM that is of use is who is hitting the market and when. The run up today from 2:30 to 3:30 was a perfect example of someone printing the bars. People who think that a lot of sell orders sitting in the order book will cause the price to go down should notice that the opposite is more likely to happen. That 2:30 SPI run again perfect example there was at least twice as many offers than bids and we ran 50 points into it.
Right, so the point would be to anticipate a reversal in the order book that would result in divergence, perhaps it may only give you a clue at that stage that it might be a larger reversal?
yeah I don't take much use of it, I want my positions with the other who are causing the divergence not with those that have noticed it after its happened. What you want to look for is how the book is refreshed after the first bit has been hit, especially how its filled back up towards the end of the bar/period.So really the volume is of no use either because you can see that in the book as well. Plus you have a window on the pace of the orders coming in as well.
No you will always see them. What do they mean? Nothin'- you would be surprised not to see them.Some things that you could also look for in the book are:
Larger orders at the key levels
a stack of orders on either side?
yeah........ I guess. After TA doesn't work. I've stated that before.....So the chart is just a reference to see where the price is so to anticipate something hitting the book?
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