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Can Malcolm Turnbull rise from the ashes?

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Mr Turnbull has shown himself to be a resiliant and successful fellow in the past. No doubt, like most businessmen, he likes to see results in the short term rather than the long term. However given the self destructive attitudes and policies of those that voted against him, I'm sure he will be back to reunite the liberals and lead them out of the wilderness.
 
nulla nulla said:
You could also say that he was smart enough to know that the factions within the Liberal party would tear each other apart and that leadership of a disfunctional party would be more trouble than it was worth.
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Sure, and you could also say that he simply didn't relish the proposition of being in opposition. He was always accused of not having much 'ticker'.
 
It will be interesting to see what job Rudd offers Turnbull now that he is not re-contesting the next election. He knows that Turnbull is a swinging voter, and could have a future in the Labor Party.
 
Julia said:
Sure, and you could also say that he simply didn't relish the proposition of being in opposition. He was always accused of not having much 'ticker'.
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This seems to be an early call on the prospects of the liberals at the next election. Not "relishing the proposition of being in opposition" Mr Turnball has called it a day in federal politics...at least as a liberal.
 
Calliope said:
It will be interesting to see what job Rudd offers Turnbull now that he is not re-contesting the next election. He knows that Turnbull is a swinging voter, and could have a future in the Labor Party.
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Could never work out why Labor rejected Turnbull's application to join the Labor Party!
 
nulla nulla said:
This seems to be an early call on the prospects of the liberals at the next election. Not "relishing the proposition of being in opposition" Mr Turnball has called it a day in federal politics...at least as a liberal.
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That could be the reason, but I think it's more likely that Mr Turnbull realised he would have no second invitation to lead the Libs. His stakes fell irretrievably imo over the Godwin Grech affair, then he rode roughshod over the wishes of his party on Climate Change.
All up he demonstrated a woeful lack of political nous.

He will be much better off back in the business world, something he understands and for which he has more of an aptitude than he does for politics.
 

Yes, the Godwin Grech affair would have been one of the first rounds of ammunition the labor party would roll out in an election campaign if Malcolm Turnball was leading the opposition into the election.
It will be interesting to see what directorships are offered to Malcom. Peter Costello doesn't seem to have had many.
 
noco said:
Turnbull has been buried in the ashes. Tony Abbott has risen to the occassion. Lets hope he can maintain the status quo.

This thread is now dead and buried.
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Well, it looks like I was wrong that this thread was dead and buried. Turnbull has risen from the ashes and has decided to renominate for the 2010 Federal Election now the ETS has been shelved. At least he won't have to cross the floor to side with Labor.

Does he now have the numbers to regain control of the coalition leadership?

Maybe he will if Abbott fails to win the oncoming the election or at least dramatically cut Rudd's majority..

Interesting days ahead!!!
 
I'm running a book on when Mal is going to challenge.... Not a case of if,but when IMO
 
wayneL said:
I'm running a book on when Mal is going to challenge.... Not a case of if,but when IMO
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Was wondering the same thing myself....perhaps he wants to avoid looking like labor?
 
....... The choice IMO for the next election is social democracy under Turnbull or Short'un.
 
wayneL said:
....... The choice IMO for the next election is social democracy under Turnbull or Short'un.
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I really really hope labor doesn't get in again....
 
wayneL said:
....... The choice IMO for the next election is social democracy under Turnbull or Short'un.
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If those are the options, Palmer and the Greens, will get a lot more of the vote.IMO

It is like saying you can vote Labor, or Labor, or someone else.
 
sptrawler said:
If those are the options, Palmer and the Greens, will get a lot more of the vote.IMO

It is like saying you can vote Labor, or Labor, or someone else.
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Palmer is a shot duck imo. When his own party deserts him, why not everyone else ?
 
sptrawler said:
If those are the options, Palmer and the Greens, will get a lot more of the vote.IMO

It is like saying you can vote Labor, or Labor, or someone else.
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Not really true though. Voting Turnbull will not be voting a Labor equivalent, brought up through the Unions to serve union interests. It will be voting for a Liberal more in the Menzies vein as against the present incumbent who thinks confusedly he is a US Tea Party member with Bob Santamaria affections..
 
wayneL said:
....... The choice IMO for the next election is social democracy under Turnbull or Short'un.
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Not enough moderates in the Noalition, Morrison will be the next leader and Shorten the next PM...the Noalition dont have the balls to dump 1 vote Tony.
 
So_Cynical said:
Not enough moderates in the Noalition, Morrison will be the next leader and Shorten the next PM...the Noalition dont have the balls to dump 1 vote Tony.
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Turnbull should be the leader of the Labor Party...That is were his heart is and you can have him.
 
noco said:
Turnbull should be the leader of the Labor Party...That is were his heart is and you can have him.
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Actually, I would probably vote for the Labor Party, if Turnbull was leader.

There is no way I would vote for Turnbull as leader of the Liberal Party.

It is all about balance IMO.

IMO Labor is full of losers, with the gift of the gab, who can't make it in mainstream life. So politics gives them an easy career.

Liberal are full of bored rich people that want to have a more public profile.

Intermixed are some politicians that really care.

Turnbull as Labor leader, would stop Labor, being a senseless rabble.

Turnbull as leader of the Liberals, would allow Labor, to make them a senseless rabble.
 
noco said:
Turnbull should be the leader of the Labor Party...That is were his heart is and you can have him.
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And Noco, not to be specific as you are not alone, with an attitude like yours, we got an extra term of crap labour in the past, got Tony now (would be VERY hard to find any positive except "he is not Labour"), and will get labour again at the next round...
Might help sometimes to let ideology aside and think for the better of Australia;

Unless you are paid by the right wing faction of the liberals to do your postings;
in that case, just a job so no blame .

A bit harsh but every day the deficits pile up, industry collapses, competition vanishes, corporate taxes and middle class are disappearing.
And this is a liberal government?You can not rule like the 1950's in a 2015 world.
Same can actually be said for most of labour too but that does not bring recomfort
 
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