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Buy your house first or last?

I tend to think an investment, is something that is bought to supply an income, or to be sold later for a capital gain.

Personally I've always taken a two step approach to investment overall. One is to invest in things which produce an income. The other is to invest in things which reduce my need to have an income in the first place. There's a role for both in my view. :2twocents
 
We all need a roof over our heads whether it be Investment or PPOR it depends on your circumstances. Property is another vehicle to drive wealth. Same as passive income streams from dividends. Me personally it worked out that I was 23 and it was February 22nd 1991 on a budget of 3 x 1 and 3.5 times my income. This is not because I got the Toorak McMansion. I got the basic no paint to walls and 105m2 of living areas. A starter house. A roof over my head. A starting point.

Would I do it again. You betcha :D
 
Personally I've always taken a two step approach to investment overall. One is to invest in things which produce an income. The other is to invest in things which reduce my need to have an income in the first place. There's a role for both in my view. :2twocents

You never got married Smurfy?
 
Personally I've always taken a two step approach to investment overall. One is to invest in things which produce an income. The other is to invest in things which reduce my need to have an income in the first place. There's a role for both in my view. :2twocents

We are on the same page, I see one as an investment, the other as a savings plan.
 
We all need a roof over our heads whether it be Investment or PPOR it depends on your circumstances. Property is another vehicle to drive wealth. Same as passive income streams from dividends. Me personally it worked out that I was 23 and it was February 22nd 1991 on a budget of 3 x 1 and 3.5 times my income. This is not because I got the Toorak McMansion. I got the basic no paint to walls and 105m2 of living areas. A starter house. A roof over my head. A starting point.

Would I do it again. You betcha :D

Agree completely, I was 25 had three kids and had a fibro and tile house jinkered onto a block. 1982 $14,000 +$4,000 to get septics, leach drains, electricity conected.
Then a ton of work, stripping out plater board & re gyprocking, rewiring, building a bathroom, actually rebuilding the whole sorry mess.
Would I do it again, you betcha.
At least I owned it.
It would have been a whole lot easier, just to take a loan and buy a house and land package.:cry:
But would I be in the financial position I am now, no way, mostly you get out, what you put in.
 
Agree completely, I was 25 had three kids and had a fibro and tile house jinkered onto a block. 1982 $14,000 +$4,000 to get septics, leach drains, electricity conected.
Then a ton of work, stripping out plater board & re gyprocking, rewiring, building a bathroom, actually rebuilding the whole sorry mess.
Would I do it again, you betcha.
At least I owned it.
It would have been a whole lot easier, just to take a loan and buy a house and land package.:cry:
But would I be in the financial position I am now, no way, mostly you get out, what you put in.

Good man.

Yea, would have been nice if we could just write a cheque and pick the colour for the walls. Then visit harvey Norman to decide what taps matches the deco... For us it was whatever we could get on Graysonline. :D



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Regardin houses:

As the Chinese said, I own all your stupid houses now! haha...

Ok, kidding aside, as a Chinese saying goes: First have a peaceful home, then work to build prosperity.

If you can afford it, yea sure... have a mansion or two. But if you're most people, a house is for shelter, set down some roots, keep the family warm and safe... all so you can work towards a career or build a business.

To take on too much debt for a big house you can't really afford might not be a good idea. To then use negative gearing and whatnot to take on two more is really asking for it.
 
Good man.

Yea, would have been nice if we could just write a cheque and pick the colour for the walls. Then visit harvey Norman to decide what taps matches the deco... For us it was whatever we could get on Graysonline. :D



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Regardin houses:

As the Chinese said, I own all your stupid houses now! haha...

Ok, kidding aside, as a Chinese saying goes: First have a peaceful home, then work to build prosperity.

If you can afford it, yea sure... have a mansion or two. But if you're most people, a house is for shelter, set down some roots, keep the family warm and safe... all so you can work towards a career or build a business.

To take on too much debt for a big house you can't really afford might not be a good idea. To then use negative gearing and whatnot to take on two more is really asking for it.

Spot on, when I bought and transported my house, I thought I must be stupid but I wanted to own it.

When I talked to my Mum about it( I was only 25), she said " the kids won't remember the floor coverings, or the curtains".
"They will only remember if it was a happy house".

Jeez she was so right, it was the happiest time of our lives, goals were plentiful and easily achieved.:D

Hard days, but happy days.:xyxthumbs
 
Spot on, when I bought and transported my house, I thought I must be stupid but I wanted to own it.

When I talked to my Mum about it( I was only 25), she said " the kids won't remember the floor coverings, or the curtains".
"They will only remember if it was a happy house".

Jeez she was so right, it was the happiest time of our lives, goals were plentiful and easily achieved.:D

Hard days, but happy days.:xyxthumbs

True. Us kids are real close because we bunk together for a decade or so. My two brothers and two sisters were still bunking until only a few years ago when one graduated and others were about to.

So yea, while the kids won't mind the curtains or the floor boards, real men at work does mind though :D
I worn out a few gloves and a few finger tips checking to see if the plaster joints were smooth after each sanding. Who would have thought those suckers were so abrasive.

Yea, a man's house is truly his castle. I bet it would be hard for you to trade that house of yours. Mine's a tiny tin shed but man, I know I won't like my future mansion by the Harbour as I do this little guy :D
 
My apologies I seen to have mis understood you.





How close is this to real.
Having a $1mill Mortgage and
Owning a $1 mill home and what you can do with the equity
are two vastly different scenario's (Banks would be good to around $4mill)

What's yours in actuality?

Your Investing the difference doesn't mention what that's likely to be------Perhaps ETF's Their as conservative as blazes and as boring as hell but preferred it seems from the Academia fraternity of this site.

Sold One of my apartments on the weekend (Auction).
Unit 4 320 The Esplanade Moana SA.
Also Owned Unit 5 which I sold last financial year.

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Tech,

What was the sale price and rent on these bad boys.

Is Moana considered a 'nice' area?
 
Tech,

What was the sale price and rent on these bad boys.

Is Moana considered a 'nice' area?

5 with better views went for $400K
4 $381k

We had them as holiday rentals.
$26K a year 30% occupancy (each).
Basically November to March
Then odd ones throughout the year.
$1200 a week Dec to Feb Still have the same regulars.
New owners have taken them on.


Bought them in 2002 for $170K av.

Moana is a southern beach suburb.
I like it I live here. The closest beach to the city
where you can drive on the beach
Google Moana Beach South Australia (There is a Moana in the US) images for an idea.
 
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