Building a computer

[CanOz]

The i5 and A6 cpus have built in graphics. (as do most mainstream, although not the pathetic FX)

MCW, you seem quite knowledgeable on the subject so I'm curious as to your opinion of the Falcon Trading PCs...

I know they're not cheap, but its just impossible to get something decent built here.

CanOz

 

[CanOz]

This is the ideal setup....IMO

 

[medicowallet]

MCW, you seem quite knowledgeable on the subject so I'm curious as to your opinion of the Falcon Trading PCs...

I know they're not cheap, but its just impossible to get something decent built here.

CanOz

1. correct me if I am wrong, but that is a US site?

2. From what I can tell it is a serious system, but most likely massive overkill.

Save some coin and get something like : http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1411_1445&products_id=22210

That uses quality parts (however I am unsure why you would need a 610 video card... but it wouldn't add much to the cost anyway)

Some people cheap out on the case and the power supply, which are critical components, and the above build is more expensive than http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1411_1445&products_id=22203

but the quality of product is quite different.

The original I posted with the i7 (or even the i5 I linked substituted) would be a nice build, and get someone (eg pccg) to make it for you.

 

[So_Cynical]

MCW, you seem quite knowledgeable on the subject so I'm curious as to your opinion of the Falcon Trading PCs...

I know they're not cheap, but its just impossible to get something decent built here.

CanOz

Falcon trading PC is just a made up name...the specs are very very high end and over the top considering that the main point of difference for a trading PC would be the ability to run multiple displays and that is pretty much the job of the video card.

 

[CanOz]

Falcon trading PC is just a made up name...the specs are very very high end and over the top considering that the main point of difference for a trading PC would be the ability to run multiple displays and that is pretty much the job of the video card.

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Lol...these guys actually supply prop shops, banks, funds, etc.

I currently have two cards for four screens, but turning on my PC chews up memory.

Some guys actually need more power SC...they all require it for different purposes.

CanOz

 

[So_Cynical]

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Lol...these guys actually supply prop shops, banks, funds, etc.

I currently have two cards for four screens, but turning on my PC chews up memory.

Some guys actually need more power SC...they all require it for different purposes.

CanOz

Ok so you learn something everyday...still a basic 4 monitor card is about 700 bucks and the card isn't required to run 4 screens at 70 frames per second in HD, that's just not necessary for trading, so having 16 gig of system ram just isn't going to make a difference...the i7 probably would help though.

 

[CanOz]

Ok so you learn something everyday...still a basic 4 monitor card is about 700 bucks and the card isn't required to run 4 screens at 70 frames per second in HD, that's just not necessary for trading, so having 16 gig of system ram just isn't going to make a difference...the i7 probably would help though.

The power is for backtesting strategies, running generic algos, all kinds of stuff.

Actually NinjaTrader takes a ton of power and running IBs TWS adds to the strain. I just want something at the cutting edge. Thanks to MCW i might buy Aussie made.

CanOz

 

[young-gun]

Alright, so i went shopping today and rounded up all the bits and pieces.

I've installed everything, all plugged in, looking good and ready to go. I was satisfied that everything was where it should be so i went to power up. I was happy at first, LEDS seemed to come on, fans started turning, then about 3 seconds later it turned off. I tried again, 2 seconds later it turned off.

Anyone have any idea what could be causing this? is it a shrot on my motherboard? I've unplugged everything except the power supply to the motherboard, and it's doing the same thing. I thought it may be because I hadn't grounded the motherboard, but I am fairly sure it's grounded through the brass board supports? and there is nothing in the installation manual regarding grounding, and nothing in the pack that allows for it.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, i'm tearing my hair out and hoping I haven't shorted something.

 

[builder2818]

May seem strange, but check that all your connections are plugged in fully, especially the lead that goes into the PSU. I built my PC a few months ago and it would power up for a bit then all of a sudden it would just turn off. Sometimes it wouldn't even start - just power on and off continuously.

I was having a hardware issue with my GPU that was causing blue screen crashes but after reinstalling drivers for that and ensuring everything was plugged in properly, it hasn't turned off on me since July now.

Good luck.

 

[young-gun]

May seem strange, but check that all your connections are plugged in fully, especially the lead that goes into the PSU. I built my PC a few months ago and it would power up for a bit then all of a sudden it would just turn off. Sometimes it wouldn't even start - just power on and off continuously.

I was having a hardware issue with my GPU that was causing blue screen crashes but after reinstalling drivers for that and ensuring everything was plugged in properly, it hasn't turned off on me since July now.

Good luck.

Ill have to pull it apart and take a look. funny you should say that, whoever crimped the cables into the power supply plugs for the hard drives over crimped one of the terminals and the wires just fell out the back(broke clean off!). I just put a BP connector on it and bypassed that plug, but may be similar issues throughout.

 

[medicowallet]

Alright, so i went shopping today and rounded up all the bits and pieces.

I've installed everything, all plugged in, looking good and ready to go. I was satisfied that everything was where it should be so i went to power up. I was happy at first, LEDS seemed to come on, fans started turning, then about 3 seconds later it turned off. I tried again, 2 seconds later it turned off.

Anyone have any idea what could be causing this? is it a shrot on my motherboard? I've unplugged everything except the power supply to the motherboard, and it's doing the same thing. I thought it may be because I hadn't grounded the motherboard, but I am fairly sure it's grounded through the brass board supports? and there is nothing in the installation manual regarding grounding, and nothing in the pack that allows for it.

Any help would be greatly appreciated, i'm tearing my hair out and hoping I haven't shorted something.

Was this an Antec PSU?? Because it could well be a PSU issue... be careful with electrical stuff!

Do you have both the 24 pin and 4 pin connectors to the motherboard?

Are your case connectors to the motherboard the correct orientation? (although iirc the more modern boards are not as unforgiving)

Try one stick of ram only.. with computers, in my experience in building them the ram is the most flaky bit with a new build (memtest is a program u can use to test the second stick if it works with one stick)

NOTE: it can be difficult and dangerous to troubleshoot without knowing what board you have, because there may be slight requirement differences eg most boards require 20/24 pin power connector plus 4 pin connector for extra power.

 

[young-gun]

Was this an Antec PSU?? Because it could well be a PSU issue... be careful with electrical stuff!

Do you have both the 24 pin and 4 pin connectors to the motherboard?

Are your case connectors to the motherboard the correct orientation? (although iirc the more modern boards are not as unforgiving)

Try one stick of ram only.. with computers, in my experience in building them the ram is the most flaky bit with a new build (memtest is a program u can use to test the second stick if it works with one stick)

NOTE: it can be difficult and dangerous to troubleshoot without knowing what board you have, because there may be slight requirement differences eg most boards require 20/24 pin power connector plus 4 pin connector for extra power.

PSU is a thermaltake(came with the case) 500w. Definitely correct connections to the motherboard(unless they were wired incorrectly from the start, may have to check that...) It's 2 separate plugs, one 20 pin and one 4 pin, but they join into one 24 plug in the one position on the mobo.

There is another 12v ATX 4 pin plug on the mobo, however it doesn't appear to have a feed for this coming from the PSU. I'll try removing and swapping ram when i get home this arvo and give it a once over again. Failing that it's back to the store for me.

Cheers.

 

[medicowallet]

PSU is a thermaltake(came with the case) 500w. Definitely correct connections to the motherboard(unless they were wired incorrectly from the start, may have to check that...) It's 2 separate plugs, one 20 pin and one 4 pin, but they join into one 24 plug in the one position on the mobo.

There is another 12v ATX 4 pin plug on the mobo, however it doesn't appear to have a feed for this coming from the PSU. I'll try removing and swapping ram when i get home this arvo and give it a once over again. Failing that it's back to the store for me.

Cheers.

I'd say it is underpowered due to the lack of the 4 pin.

 

[young-gun]

I'd say it is underpowered due to the lack of the 4 pin.

Bang on. The cable that was meant to feed the secondary ATX 4 pin was fitted with a 6 pin. being my first time I just assumed it was meant to be without the second ATX plug. I fixed it up and it's now in the correct 4 pin plug and started first time

Thanks for the help, going to go load windows etc and get it set up now.

Cheers

 

[CanOz]

Bang on. The cable that was meant to feed the secondary ATX 4 pin was fitted with a 6 pin. being my first time I just assumed it was meant to be without the second ATX plug. I fixed it up and it's now in the correct 4 pin plug and started first time

Thanks for the help, going to go load windows etc and get it set up now.

Cheers

Ya got a love it when ya get past stuff like this...

CanOz

 

[young-gun]

Ya got a love it when ya get past stuff like this...

CanOz

haha you're telling me...Now I've been sitting here for an hour trying to work out why windows won't find my wireless network, until i finally realise my mother board didn't come standard with a network card...idiot

 

[CanOz]

haha you're telling me...Now I've been sitting here for an hour trying to work out why windows won't find my wireless network, until i finally realise my mother board didn't come standard with a network card...idiot

LOL, that sucks!

I think i will just spend the money and get the best...Can't be arsed with this muckin around.

CanOz

 

[young-gun]

LOL, that sucks!

I think i will just spend the money and get the best...Can't be arsed with this muckin around.

CanOz

From here on I will always build my own. I quite enjoy learning new things, and it was quite fun. My next one will go much smoother...I hope.

 

[CanOz]

From here on I will always build my own. I quite enjoy learning new things, and it was quite fun. My next one will go much smoother...I hope.

You want to build one for me?

 

[waza1960]

haha you're telling me...Now I've been sitting here for an hour trying to work out why windows won't find my wireless network, until i finally realise my mother board didn't come standard with a network card...idiot

Whats the model number of your motherboard ?