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Clearly there is a bunch of stuff which I just haven't got my head around with cryptocurrencies... ask me about option pricing models or futures and I can talk for the next 15 hours, but I have no idea what blockchain means etc. Nor how it would $8,000 to produce a bitcoin.

Is there a resource, a website, or a book which can explain it all without insulting my intelligence?
What is Bitcoin? Bitcoin Explained Simply for Dummies
 
To put it very very simply, mining Bitcoin is "just" crunching numbers in a computer..a lot..i mean a lot, this takes hardware..a computer..some are built just for that and you can buy bitcoin mining computer in Shenzhen electronic market.
Manpower..very small and limited as you have whole data centers with a guy checking that all is going well in case of failure etc
And then the BIG item is power.
No bitcoin mining in Australia.:-(
I know some Bitcoin farms in China (data centre) are established at the bottom of hydroelectric dams and sucking power straight from the turbines.
Here's a US one:

And in China/Russia same and bigger
The only miners in Australia are doing it small scale
and often using cpu and power stolen from uni or employers by running hidden software overnight etc

A bitcoin is CPU+power and designed scarity.
Hope it helps
 
To put it very very simply, mining Bitcoin is "just" crunching numbers in a computer..a lot..i mean a lot, this takes hardware..a computer..some are built just for that and you can buy bitcoin mining computer in Shenzhen electronic market.
Manpower..very small and limited as you have whole data centers with a guy checking that all is going well in case of failure etc
And then the BIG item is power.
No bitcoin mining in Australia.:-(
I know some Bitcoin farms in China (data centre) are established at the bottom of hydroelectric dams and sucking power straight from the turbines.
Here's a US one:

And in China/Russia same and bigger
The only miners in Australia are doing it small scale
and often using cpu and power stolen from uni or employers by running hidden software overnight etc

A bitcoin is CPU+power and designed scarity.
Hope it helps

Wowee! I got the gist of the mining thing from following on noirua' s video, but never realised it was on that scale, Holy Dooley!

Gradually getting my head around it though, blockchain and all that sort of stuff.

Given the process, Jeez it was a no brainer at under $5,000 US recently.... And an absolute steel at the recent lows of 3700 or whatever it was.

I was looking at it at those levels but because I didn't really understand how it all worked I stood aside, kicking myself.
 
But time changes, if quantum computing can do that computation in no time, then in a few days, we could reach a no more bitcoin bitcoin ever
Remember aluminium was once a precious metal and now just electricity.pity the bugger finding lingot of aluminium buried by his ancestor who sold useless farming land in Manhattan to put it safely in the new platinum of the time....
I do own 1 bitcoin.
Please be noted you can buy or sell parts of bitcoin if you want to so it is flexible
 
Before or after halving?

So Bit-Aud have to go up to ~$28K for me to break even if I had bought at $14K, is that right?
I'm crypto ignorant.
bought before, but halving as far as I understand it is halving the return on farmed bitcoin, not your portfolio you still own 1 bitcoin which is worth 14.4k AUD
 
bought before, but halving as far as I understand it is halving the return on farmed bitcoin, not your portfolio you still own 1 bitcoin which is worth 14.4k AUD

A big thank you for info.
What a relief.:)

Bitcoin is now 14.7K
 
But time changes, if quantum computing can do that computation in no time, then in a few days, we could reach a no more bitcoin bitcoin ever
Remember aluminium was once a precious metal and now just electricity.pity the bugger finding lingot of aluminium buried by his ancestor who sold useless farming land in Manhattan to put it safely in the new platinum of the time....
I do own 1 bitcoin.
Please be noted you can buy or sell parts of bitcoin if you want to so it is flexible

I just want to add in here that yes, quantum computing may become a reality in the very distant future. Probably after all of us here are long gone!

But it cuts both ways. Bitcoin can be easily upgraded to accommodate quantum computing, which would undoubtedly be used to secure the blockchain and maintain security of the network.
 
Clearly there is a bunch of stuff which I just haven't got my head around with cryptocurrencies... ask me about option pricing models or futures and I can talk for the next 15 hours, but I have no idea what blockchain means etc. Nor how it would $8,000 to produce a bitcoin.

Is there a resource, a website, or a book which can explain it all without insulting my intelligence?

@wayneL

I implore you to watch my video link as well. It's addressed at members of the US Senate Banking Committee so it's very easy to understand. Let me know what you think.

 
And then the BIG item is power.
As an order of magnitude, Bitcoin mining is estimated to use roughly the same amount of electricity (globally) as the whole of Victoria and SA combined use for all purposes including the Portland aluminium smelter, the Port Pirie lead smelter, the Whyalla steelworks and other heavy industry as well as every house, office, school, farm and so on.

The issue of electricity theft is one that the electricity distributors are extremely well aware of by the way. Without passing judgement, the sort of person who sets up a room full of computers at home is the sort of person who likely can work out how to by-pass their electricity meter. That doesn't of course mean they're all crooks and will do it, just that if someone's got a room full of computers then they probably do have some technical knowledge when it comes to electrical things. They can work out how to do it and with the amount of power needed there's an incentive to do so.

I'm aware of one mining operation at the "backyard" scale where the waste heat given off by the computers provides the entire heating needs of the house via a ducting system. So the heat goes into an intake duct and is either blown outside or into the house depending on heating needs.

That could get interesting in the unlikely but not impossible chance they get randomly picked to participate in a household energy use survey. The "method of heating the main living area" question doesn't have a "Bitcoin mine" box to tick on the form, or at least it didn't have last time I saw one. :laugh:
 
Satoshi Nakaboto: ‘TV host Max Keiser says Bitcoin will go to $400k, not $100k’
https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/202...keiser-says-bitcoin-will-go-to-400k-not-100k/

“I am officially raising my target for Bitcoin — and I first made this prediction when it was $1, I said this could go to $100,000 — I’m raising my official target for the first time in eight years, I’m raising it to $400,000.”
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-will-surge-to-400k-max-keiser-quadruples-btc-price-forecast

RT - https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/
 
Satoshi Nakaboto: ‘TV host Max Keiser says Bitcoin will go to $400k, not $100k’
https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/202...keiser-says-bitcoin-will-go-to-400k-not-100k/

“I am officially raising my target for Bitcoin — and I first made this prediction when it was $1, I said this could go to $100,000 — I’m raising my official target for the first time in eight years, I’m raising it to $400,000.”
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-will-surge-to-400k-max-keiser-quadruples-btc-price-forecast

RT - https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/

I would take anything this guy says with a grain of salt. 400,000 USD per coin is absolutely ridiculous. For that to happen, the global economy would have to be looking pretty bleak.

Realistically, I would say 50,000 USD is easily attainable within 24 months from now. By 2024 (the next halving of the block reward) probably 100,000 USD.

People shouldn't view Bitcoin as a get rich quick scheme, but as a way of preserving wealth and avoiding getting poor slowly.

Just my $0.02
 
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