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Re: Our Fine-Tuned Universe: Accident or Design?

Well at least you are totally upfont about being a Jehovoh Witness.

ASF is a very broad Church. We welcome anyone and everyone who is considerate, articulate and respectful. We particularly pride ourselves on incisive and logical discussions which add to each others knowledge in areas we might not have first hand experience. :D
 
Re: Our Fine-Tuned Universe: Accident or Design?

basilio said:
Well at least you are totally upfont about being a Jehovoh Witness.

ASF is a very broad Church. We welcome anyone and everyone who is considerate, articulate and respectful. We particularly pride ourselves on incisive and logical discussions which add to each others knowledge in areas we might not have first hand experience. :D
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;)

I think the OP made a fair point about the General Discussion Section, but the subject has been done to death (unless there is life after death) in other threads , mainly the Religion, Science, Scepticism.. thread so imo the discussion could be continued there if there is interest.
 
Re: Our Fine-Tuned Universe: Accident or Design?

I really cant see the point in leaving this sort of spam on the forum, the privelige of posting in the general discussion area of this and other forums is generally considered to be a consequence of active discussion in the topical areas of the relevant forum - in this case participation in discussion of the australian share market.
 
Re: Our Fine-Tuned Universe: Accident or Design?

galumay said:
I really cant see the point in leaving this sort of spam on the forum, the privelige of posting in the general discussion area of this and other forums is generally considered to be a consequence of active discussion in the topical areas of the relevant forum - in this case participation in discussion of the australian share market.
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In that case I had better resign as I have never posted in the stock section.

I hope galumay's opinion is not reflected by the majority who post here, I don't think we are that intolerant, regardless of what you think about the subject matter of this thread.
 
Re: Our Fine-Tuned Universe: Accident or Design?

SirRumpole said:
In that case I had better resign as I have never posted in the stock section.

I hope galumay's opinion is not reflected by the majority who post here, I don't think we are that intolerant, regardless of what you think about the subject matter of this thread.
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Thank goodness I dabble in the sharemarket :).

Seen one skyfairy seen 'em all I say. They are like nymphs at the bottom of the garden, if they want you to see them they will let you, just like goblins, elves and that Irish nuisance that keeps shuffling the pot of gold everytime I get near to the end of a rainbow.:D
 
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galumay said:
I really cant see the point in leaving this sort of spam on the forum, the privelige of posting in the general discussion area of this and other forums is generally considered to be a consequence of active discussion in the topical areas of the relevant forum - in this case participation in discussion of the australian share market.
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I get your point but I would'nt think so, both are separate area's and everyone to their own, read and contribute to what they want.

In the end this website is a business, Joe's living and its success is determined by traffic yours and mine.

I post in both areas although less so in the trading areas these days but really appreciate the intelligent views from the likes of Rumpole etc in the political treads I even like that Fabian bloke Noco :)

I cannot say I would be fond of an evangelical US type turning up to harass us all (I cast no ill aspersions on any member who is a believer BTW) but it would be a test I guess of everyone's good manners still Joes site, Joes rules.
 
Re: Our Fine-Tuned Universe: Accident or Design?

IFocus said:
I get your point but I would'nt think so, both are separate area's and everyone to their own, read and contribute to what they want.

In the end this website is a business, Joe's living and its success is determined by traffic yours and mine.

I post in both areas although less so in the trading areas these days but really appreciate the intelligent views from the likes of Rumpole etc in the political treads I even like that Fabian bloke Noco :)

I cannot say I would be fond of an evangelical US type turning up to harass us all (I cast no ill aspersions on any member who is a believer BTW) but it would be a test I guess of everyone's good manners still Joes site, Joes rules.
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Something even more important I Focus, I notice you live in Mandurah. My grandparents had a holiday house in Tuckey Street for decades ... no guessing where I spent my schools breaks. I'm sure it's very different and populated these days?
 
Re: Our Fine-Tuned Universe: Accident or Design?

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And just because it's Thanksgiving in the U.S. the rare turkey troll for your enjoyment.

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Re: Our Fine-Tuned Universe: Accident or Design?

I have gone ahead and revoked Alter2Ego's ASF membership on the grounds that this person is a well known internet troll and has no interest whatsoever in engaging in a genuine, constructive discussion. Alter2Ego is entirely agenda driven and is interested only in religious threads, more specifically this particular topic. A quick Google search makes this apparent.

However, I'm not sure if this topic has come up at ASF before. If it hasn't already, it inevitably will. For this reason I will leave the thread up and merge any future threads on the same topic into it. If I find another existing thread on this topic then I will merge this thread into it.

Obviously I would prefer it if all ASF members had an interest in the stock market and posted in stock market related threads. After all, ASF is a stock market forum. However, I accept that this may not be the case for everyone. It then becomes an issue of what kind of contribution individuals make to the community. If someone is a positive influence and engages in intelligent, thoughtful, constructive discussion then I see no reason to exclude them. If, however, like Alter2Ego, they are one issue posters here solely to push an ideological barrow then I think they do far more harm than good.

My first priority is ensuring the health of the ASF community as best I can. I don't believe that anyone here wants to see ASF over-run by trolls, troublemakers, and ideologically-driven fruitcakes. I know I don't. There are hundreds of other forums that allow these type of people to post and anyone who is interested in the kind of toxic atmosphere they create can easily find it elsewhere.

However, I would like to see more posting in stock market related threads, especially threads on specific stocks. I have no objection to the General Chat forum but I don't want to see ASF evolve into a general chat forum overall. I want it to continue to be a stock market forum with a lively and active General Chat forum.
 
Re: Our Fine-Tuned Universe: Accident or Design?

Tisme said:
Something even more important I Focus, I notice you live in Mandurah. My grandparents had a holiday house in Tuckey Street for decades ... no guessing where I spent my schools breaks. I'm sure it's very different and populated these days?
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Lucky you holidays in Mandurah back in the day when it was a holiday town.

Still is in some ways I guess but it has grown really to a point of being a Perth outer suburb now with train and freeway / parking lot at peek hour.

Mandurah is still a nice place to live raise kids etc and the foreshore / boat harbour serves a great coffee / meal with a view of water, dolphins, sea bird life and the like which in WA isn't that common unlike the East Coast.


Your grandparents holiday house in Tuckey Street would be worth a few bob now :D
 
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Joe Blow said:
However, I'm not sure if this topic has come up at ASF before. .
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It has, In the religion and science thread. The argument is PRATT ( previously refuted a thousand times )

It's the go to argument for religious apologists who have no real evidence to back up their claims, they try and prove through false logic that the universe has been fine tuned, and then once they have established that, it just so happens this cosmic finer tuner is their particular brand of their version of a god.
 
Re: Our Fine-Tuned Universe: Accident or Design?

SirRumpole said:
That's your opinion, others may disagree. But I'm not going to go through it all again.
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So it HAS been done to death.
One more reason to either delete this thread, merge it into the crazy religion topic, or even add it to the Humour section. Sir O's cartoon is already half-way there :D
 
Re: Our Fine-Tuned Universe: Accident or Design?

pixel said:
So it HAS been done to death.
One more reason to either delete this thread, merge it into the crazy religion topic, or even add it to the Humour section. Sir O's cartoon is already half-way there :D
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I found an old "big bang" thread to merge it with. Essentially the same topic, just a slightly different angle.

Anyway, for those who wish to continue debating the topic, or post funny cartoons relating to it, please do so here. :)
 
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IFocus said:
Lucky you holidays in Mandurah back in the day when it was a holiday town.

Still is in some ways I guess but it has grown really to a point of being a Perth outer suburb now with train and freeway / parking lot at peek hour.

Mandurah is still a nice place to live raise kids etc and the foreshore / boat harbour serves a great coffee / meal with a view of water, dolphins, sea bird life and the like which in WA isn't that common unlike the East Coast.


Your grandparents holiday house in Tuckey Street would be worth a few bob now :D
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:rolleyes:

yes my mother sold it on behalf of my grandma just before the first boom, around late 70s.

It was a big time place in summer for swimming lessons and between the jetties, the porpoise would hang around at a distance, we would catch fish from the bridge undercroft, go to Halls Head and Silversands for a bit of surf, iceman would deliver blocks to the door for the Coolgardie safes, lotsa crabs boiled in old coppers, fresh fish from under the houses of the local fisherman, fresh bread from the bakeries at 4ish in the morning, pink zinc and girls to fiddle :D

The mongrel laid back lifestyle of Mandurah was much better than "Our Fine Tuned Universe" California style. :D
 
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