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Calliope said:
Heavily taxed "fat ar$e" motorists pay the Government $13.5 billion in petrol and diesel fuel excise annually, as well as state imposts, such as vehicle registration fees and motor vehicle stamp duty... just for the "privilege" of using our roads.

What do the Lycra Louts pay for this "privilege"? Like any other freeloaders they can't complain if they are treated as pests.
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Thats completely dumb. I also pay the same as I have a car and pay a heap of tax. But I get on a bike for most city travel because its faster and I am one of the 10,000 in Melbourne cbd who contribute to 10,000 less cars. Therefore making our roads less congested and by extension reducing the amount of tax that has to be paid by everyone, including the lazy.


Julia said:
Am I sure that happens??? Do you really think I would post an assertion that I don't witness almost every day?

The bikeway to which I referred is a solid surface about 2.5 m wide and has clearly not been designed by an idiot. A large number of ratepayer dollars went into both the designing and execution of it to provide safety for cyclists and maximise traffic flow on a busy road.

There has also been an equivalent amount of money spent on an additional bikeway about 1km in from that main road, so cyclists actually have a choice of two, both with complete safety from vehicular traffic. There would be a reasonable case for anyone who might suggest far too much money has been spent on catering to cyclists, especially when most of them seem to eschew such specifically provided facilities and continue to hold up traffic on main roads.

Why would you imagine anyone would design a bikeway with a loose gravel surface? That would be just stupid.
I've used this bikeway many, many times as a cyclist and it's 100% fine.

There seems to be an air of arrogance about cyclists who insist on ignoring a perfectly good, specifically designed bikeway in order to present themselves as an irritant to motorists in the two lane circumstance I described earlier. Why they should so desire to put themselves at risk is quite beyond me, but I'm pretty sick of the whining about their feeling they are being denied their rights.

Seems to me they are demonstrating precious little respect for the rights of motorists in an attempt to make their somewhat obscure point.
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Julia I have no idea as I don't know the cyclists or the path you are talking about. From my experience there is some goods paths but that doesn't mean they suit every trip you take on a bike, many are far to short or simply don't go where you want them to. I still cannot believe that someone would ride down the middle of a lane on a highway. That's just dangerous and silly.
 
Trembling Hand said:
I still cannot believe that someone would ride down the middle of a lane on a highway. That's just dangerous and silly.
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I've seen them do it, or ride three abreast so you can't pass.

It's probably a bloody minded attempt to annoy car drivers, or trying to prove that they think they have the right to be there.
 
SirRumpole said:
I've seen them do it, or ride three abreast so you can't pass.

It's probably a bloody minded attempt to annoy car drivers, or trying to prove that they think they have the right to be there.
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Yes there are Ar$eholes every where. But they are not exclusively confined to people on a bike.

What I still would like someone to answer though is why do motorist get so upset with being delayed a few seconds before they have the opportunity to race to the next red light. When if the said cyclist was in a car they would actually be stuck behind them. If every cyclist was in a car they would be stuck 3 klm back in traffic that doesn't move.

Where is the logic in wanting cyclist in cars :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
Trembling Hand said:
What I still would like someone to answer though is why do motorist get so upset with being delayed a few seconds before they have the opportunity to race to the next red light.
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If cars were not delayed by cyclists they may make it through the lights before they turn red.
 
Trembling Hand said:
But I get on a bike for most city travel because its faster and I am one of the 10,000 in Melbourne cbd who contribute to 10,000 less cars. Therefore making our roads less congested and by extension reducing the amount of tax that has to be paid by everyone, including the lazy.
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Your attitude is typical of the "holier than thou attitude" of city cyclists. They are on their bikes for the good of their fellow citizens including the "fat ar$e lazy drivers".:rolleyes:

Recently I was cut off on a roundabout bo a swarm of lycla clad helmeted lunatics. They completely ignored the fact that I had right of way, in fact I doubt if they even looked. They were invoking your "holier than thou" attitude that that they make their own rules and their attitude to motorists is the same as yours...i.e. fat ar$e lazy motorists should defer to them.
 
Calliope said:
Recently I was cut off on a roundabout blah blah blah
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Oh here we go....

I once witness a Red Headed Italian Female Butcher walking her Irish Setter when it stopped on my yard and cr@pped.

Now when ever I see someone with red hair,

Or

Italian
Female
Butchers
Or
Dogs

I abuse them :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Calliope said:
Your attitude is typical of the "holier than thou attitude" of city cyclists. They are on their bikes for the good of their fellow citizens including the "fat ar$e lazy drivers".:rolleyes:

Recently I was cut off on a roundabout bo a swarm of lycla clad helmeted lunatics. They completely ignored the fact that I had right of way, in fact I doubt if they even looked. They were invoking your "holier than thou" attitude that that they make their own rules and their attitude to motorists is the same as yours...i.e. fat ar$e lazy motorists should defer to them.
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Good Grief:facepalm:
 
You feel fragile as hell not wearing a helmet. More so on a motorbike/dirt bike especially when ur front tyres off the floor most of the time haha

Gear up kids or be a SQUID
 
Calliope said:
Your attitude is typical of the "holier than thou attitude" of city cyclists.
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By the way I don't want the world to bow to me when ever I ride past on my bike. I just don't want to be abused, run over, have things thrown at me, etc etc...... you know just normal reasonable human behaviour......
 
Calliope said:
Your attitude is typical of the "holier than thou attitude" of city cyclists. They are on their bikes for the good of their fellow citizens including the "fat ar$e lazy drivers".:rolleyes:

Recently I was cut off on a roundabout bo a swarm of lycla clad helmeted lunatics. They completely ignored the fact that I had right of way, in fact I doubt if they even looked. They were invoking your "holier than thou" attitude that that they make their own rules and their attitude to motorists is the same as yours...i.e. fat ar$e lazy motorists should defer to them.
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This is very typical of the lycratites, travelling in a mob. They are so souped up with adrenaline and probably some uppers, that they lose perspective.

In Queensland, Campbell Newman has eliminated Bikie Gangs from our streets and highways.

It may be time for Government to go in to "lycra households" and clubs, usually in rich Green enclaves of our cities and towns, and confiscate bicycles, lycra and helmets from these pests.

A visit from the QPS would settle them down.

What a cheek these lycra bullies have.

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''It's probably a bit embarrassing that we can have somebody [on a bike] beating public transport or even a car into town over 30 kilometres.''
It is quicker to charter a boat from Melbourne's western suburbs to the CBD than it is to hop in your car and attempt to brave the crush of the West Gate Freeway.
On Wednesday morning the Wyndham City Council held a race into Federation Square, pitting motorists, cyclists and public transport users against each other. But even the council did not expect these results.
Despite having to travel more than 30 kilometres, the cyclists came out ahead, zipping well ahead of the cars as they groaned along the Princes Highway. They also beat the commuters who had taken a bus to their local railway station.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/w...on-a-winner-20140402-35yw9.html#ixzz2xmj06tce
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I recall spending two hours a day in traffic in Northern China and thankfully they built another coupla hundred kms of roads and bridges...

Better trains and subways are the answer, not many people are going to brave the weather to bike to work while risking getting killed by motorists...:2twocents
 
Our local paper today publishes a suggestion from cyclist that the Esplanade - a two lane highway which runs the length of this beachside town, about 20 kms, should be made one way, in order to provide a 'proper lane' for cyclists!!!

Never mind that there is a purpose built bikeway running adjacent all this way. Apparently it's not good enough.
I just cannot believe the arrogance of these cyclists. Even the current two lanes frequently results in traffic snarls.:banghead:
 
At long last the medical profession are turning to my point of view that bicycle helmets kill, by dissuading the unfit from cycling.

From the Australian today.

Doctors have urged parliament to dismantle laws requiring cyclists to wear helmets, saying the safety measure is dissuading unfit Australians from riding their bicycles.

The Senate’s broad-ranging inquiry into “nanny state” public safety laws has received written submissions from three medical practitioners, all arguing helmets should be optional for adults.

Andreas Schwander, a dentist for more than 20 years, criticised bicycle helmet laws as “over-*regulation” that has unintentionally undermined cycling.

“They have discouraged large proportions of the community from using their bicycles and probably have caused a much worse impact on our nation’s health by keeping people away from this kind of exercise than they have given benefit by reducing head injuries,” wrote Dr Schwander of Newcastle. “While people who take cycling as a serious sport … wear a helmet voluntarily, it is bordering on ridiculousness to make it mandatory for a leisure ride or trip (to) the baker.”
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