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Benazir Bhutto killed in suicide attack at rally

comment from the peanut gallery - Bhutto was (allegedly) gonna take the fight to the Taliban (northern provinces) - and (as chops pointed out) Musharraf has done a deal with em instead

your book go down that road gg ?

PS some worrying press releases
http://www.hinduonnet.com/businessline/2001/07/13/stories/041355rr.htm


"No one but the Taliban are capable of guaranteeing peace in Afghanistan today?" ??
we might as well give it to them ??
 

2020

Its not my book, its Musharraf's.

He would argue that he needs to keep his alliances with the Northern alliance who are tribal cross border cousins of many Afghans. He doesn't speak kindly of the Taleban in his book. He considers Mullah Omar a complete nutter and abhorrhed the demolition of the Buddhist statues in Afghanistan.

It was published early 2006 so I can't answer for his up to date opinion on the Taleban, long may they rot.

Its always worthwhile looking at someone elses viewpoint otherwise its all too easy to be led by popular opinion such as the Sydney Daily Telegraph or The Guardian in the UK.

gg
 
thanks gg
this is not a bad website also ..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-lauria/who-benefits-from-bhutto_b_78584.html


Winston Churchill :-
Dictators ride to and fro upon tigers which they dare not dismount. And the tigers are getting hungry.
 

It is before the General's reversal of taliban! 9-July-2001 and may I say before 9/11. Remember Taliban was creation of pakistan so why would Mush not support them then? Plus your reference is from an indian newspaper a sworn rivial of Pakistan, a more neutral source might be more appropriate.

Taliban and Alqeada are different entities. taleban are local afghan people while Alqeada are foreign fighters the real cause of trouble. Generally Taleban do not like Alqaeda ( because they led to their downfall...), having said that some alqaeda sympathesizer do exist in the taliban rank. A good political stragtegy will be to make peace with Taliban on the condition that they will 'smoke out' the alqaeda from afghanistan. It is what Musharraf supports and some NATO and EU are considering ( a couple of weeks ago, Karzi's govt threw out some European Union staff on suspicions of holding talk with the talibans?)

Taliban are now a political victim as government is controlled by Northern Alliance ( Non-pushton ) people. Taliban fought them before 9/11 and were sucessful in beating them. If west can just open their eyes a bit better and use politics and talks rather than brute force(US strategy...) I think we might see more peace around the world.
 
thanks gg
this is not a bad website also ..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-lauria/who-benefits-from-bhutto_b_78584.html



Winston Churchill :-


Thanks 2020.

A good webpage

I guess anyone in Pakistan, Afghanistan , Kashmir or India could have killed her.

That evil husband of hers could have done it.

The selfish gene might have surfaced. He only has half a Bhutto to compete with now, and the other half is his, possibly.

Conspiracy theories abound.

None more credible than the next.

Read Musharraf's book. Its a good read.

I'm sure you can borrow it from your local library, if you'r concerned about your trading profits going to Pervez M.

gg
 
Benazir Interview 2Nov07

(including claim that Bin Laden Murdered ??)


Ironically she asks for Scotland Yard's help to investigate past crimes - now they are to go in to help find her killer


http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article643800.ece

gg said:
I'm sure you can borrow it from your local library, if you'r concerned about your trading profits going to Pervez M.
lol - good idea - watch the five cent pieces and the ten cent pieces look after themselves
 
including claim that Bin Laden Murdered

I hope it is a slip of tongue, she meant to say Daniel pearl. But it might be true that Bin laden is dead and theis news is kept away from public, so that they might not demand a return of their forces from afghanistan...just like Iraq after saddam's capture.
 
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/01/08/2134140.htm?section=justin
 
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/01/13/2137321.htm?section=justin

 
just for the record... Musharraf allegedly being tough with "islamic militants"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/01/19/2142100.htm?section=justin
 
just for the record... Musharraf allegedly being tough with "islamic militants"

There is a particularly good article on Pakistan democracy and feudalism in this weekend's AFR.

It paints a picture of Pakistan as being a patriarchal society for the past millenium, essential for its governance. As usual the poor and disenfranchised miss out.

Basically what it says is that patriarchy can subvert democracy as easily as it can swap dictators. This it does by the practice of large land holding families having a bet each way.

They put different members of the family in government, army, opposition and legal system, to ensure the continuity of their genetic hold over the wealth of the country. Thus no matter who wins or is in power, a member of the family keeps the clan safe from retribution.

Tout le change, toute la meme chose.

gg
 
British police say blast killed Pakistan's Bhutto
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSISL20840120080208

British police investigating the murder of Pakistani opposition leader Benazir Bhutto concluded she was killed by a head injury caused by the impact of a bomb blast, not by a bullet, they said in a report released on Friday.

Seems to me another consipracy theory laid to rest. On another note her corrupt husband is trying to become prime minister... Scary.
 

To put it to rest, she was shot in the neck which can be clearly seen in this video ==> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d2a_1199047237

Now a days the conspiracy theory seems to be the governments official story.
 
To put it to rest, she was shot in the neck which can be clearly seen in this video
no argument from me kim

Do I understand that Musharraf is sounding remarkably cocky for someone who has just been trounced at the polls (?)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/02/20/2168075.htm

PS Think I heard that the opposition parties have learned to "fight fire with fire" - arguably vigourous election rigging all over the place - no longer the sole domain of one party lol.
 
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