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Barack Obama!

Hear is the answer is Blowing......in the Wind:
From New York Times.

LONDON: Want to help fund the bank bailout, ease the California budget crisis and shore up strained U.S. finances? Legalize drugs, tax the trade and save on interdiction, domestic enforcement and the prison and court system.

I'm only partly joking.

It would not solve all of the United States' problems and, lord knows, it would cause some new ones, but the money is undeniably big enough to make a dent.

After all, it certainly helped President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who legalized alcohol in 1933 in the midst of the Depression and after more than a decade of Prohibition, thus bringing a half a billion in 1933 dollars into public coffers in the form of tax revenue. By 1936, alcohol taxes were 13 percent of U.S. federal revenue.

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger of California has a similar opportunity. He is facing a $42 billion budget deficit, his prisons are filled to bursting, in substantial part with people in on drug-related crime, and he will soon be forced by judicial edict to start freeing people.
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He also has an offer from a group call Let Us Pay Taxes, which claims to represent the marijuana industry and is willing to pay $1 billion annually in taxes if only he would legalize. No doubt they are low-balling. The United Nations estimates the value of the U.S. cannabis market at $64 billion annually, while a paper by Jonathan Caulkins and Peter Renter calculates that about half of the costs of drugs are in one way or another attributable to factors linked to interdiction and its perils.

But even if you cut the UN number in half and tax it at only 50 percent, a lower tax than many states and localities put on tobacco, you would still get more than $15 billion nationwide. If California consumes its 13 percent share, in line with GDP, and I am betting it does, you are looking at something on the order of $2 billion, even before you take account of lower costs.

The Harvard economics professor Jeffrey Miron has a lower estimate, at $7.7 billion annually in lower spending nationally and $6.2 billion in extra revenues.

Of course, these figures could fluctuate wildly, depending on levels of compliance and market factors.

But why stop at cannabis? Just as Roosevelt decided that prohibition of alcohol was a failed policy the United States could no longer afford, perhaps the costs of rebuilding the U.S. banking system and lifting the country out of a severe recession will prompt another radical plan. I would not bet on it, but strange things are happening all over.

And if we start including other drugs the billions will only mount. There is another $100 billion in annual illegal drug sales in the United States outside of cannabis, which might produce another $25 billion annually in revenue by the same math. The U.S. government spent $13 billion on the drug war in 2002, not counting prison costs.

Then there are other costs of the U.S. drug interdiction efforts internationally, not least in Afghanistan, where opium revenue fuels the Taliban. The United States spends more than $1 billion a year there on anti-drug efforts, but opium money undoubtedly raises the total costs for the United States by much more.

The stream of income from all of this extending into the future is very valuable indeed and would go a way toward paying the price of fixing the banking system.

This brings us to another point of weakness for the United States; namely its ability to fund all of the costs it has already taken on and is likely to have to shoulder in the next several years.

Not long ago, Moody's credit rating agency did what everyone has pretty much taken for granted, acknowledging that the United States' AAA credit rating is being "tested" and falls into a category below those on the top shelf like Canada and Germany.

It is not all wine and roses, though. Cheaper legal drugs might lead to a spike in use, which might hit productivity and impose many costs, like higher health and other welfare costs.

All of those prison, military and law enforcement jobs are a huge source of stimulus, and the cutbacks implied by legalization would raise transitional problems.

Moreover, drug legalization, just as for alcohol, is essentially a moral and political decision about which reasonable people can disagree. It is also, to put it mildly, not very likely.

Still the war on drugs rolls on, costing billions, creating huge incentives for violence and crime, imprisoning hundreds of thousands and seemingly never much closer to victory. The waste and misery must make it rival the sub-prime bubble as a misallocation of resources.

Perhaps one stone would end up killing two birds.
 
Very well stage managed, the real experts opinions ?

I dont see US stocks going anywhere on that pep talk.

Did you notice the gold price fell - - and oil rose?

and most of our gold and oil stocks followed this pattern today?

An 'expert' in the WSJ yesterday foresaw gold rising to USD1300 within 6-12 months.
THAT would be the time to get out of gold as the economy was recovering!
 
I have to say I had wondered how Osama bin Laden would have been frothing at the mouth over 'that speech'!

Bush did well to keep Osama's spies out!
What a massive security exercise to protect members of both houses for this session!


Designation of the Presidential Address to a Joint Session of Congress as a National Special Security Event

... designated by Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano.

Why? * anticipated attendance by dignitaries and the size and significance of the event.

- U.S. Secret Service assumes its legally mandated role as the lead federal agency.
- Federal resources deployed to maintain the level of security needed.

The Secret Service plans, coordinates, and implements security operations at designated NSSEs and, together with law enforcement, public safety, and military partners, develops the overall security plan.

The U.S. Capitol Police, the Washington D.C. Metropolitan Police Department, and a number of other federal and local agencies played an active security role.

Assets from the Dep't of Defense, including the North American Aerospace Defense Command & the US Northern Command.

Since 1998 - 30 NSSEs, including, the 2008 DNC & RNC, the G20 summit and the 2009 Presidential Inauguration.
 
You are so positively negative!

I fully understand that this was not technically a State of the Union - but in effect it was the equivalent of one for a new President.

Do you not see real efforts being made? Would you really prefer McCain were at the helm? Or Bush?

No - Mitt Romney. He and Jindal will pick up the pieces of the New Jimmy Carter (Obama). Just like Ronald Reagan had to do in 1981. We will put an adult in charge then - unlike GWB or Obama.

The Republicans will sweep the House and Senate in 2010. The out of control spending is the talk of the U.S. This "stimulus" bill was a big mistake, just a pork laden Democrat wish list bill. You are not here, you don't see what is happening at the grass roots level. BO will be a lame duck in 2010, and back to Chicago in 2012.
 
The big news is that the Obamas have decided on a Portuguese Water dog for family pet and America's first dog.

This is confidence building news and should give the market a kick along.
 
I had to Google this breed. Apparently a bit like a water loving poodle.
 

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Doris, is there some deep significance to the underlying and bolding in your posts?

Me I'm a words man.

What is he saying he will do and what has he done to presuppose that he will do what he has said he will do?

I could put it in bold or underline it, but I'm a gint.

gg
 
gg, with apologies for my ignorance: what is a 'gint'?

PS I don't read anything with underlining. Might be a solution for you too?
 

ZzzzDad if you'd read the thread you'd have realized my comment was related to MrBurns' denigrating presumption that the speech was made to converted fans whereas it was significantly to both houses of your federal gov't.
You are right of course that it was a pseudo state of the union address despite his having been in office only a month... (thus a month early) Did you note the new Israeli leader has six weeks to 'settle into office'?

You're on the page about the package being flagged as a wish list bill - most are from Obama's list of campaign pledges.
- he is putting up what he said he would despite the worsened economy. Not a mean feat!

What IS happening at the grass roots level that you alluded to?

I've seen interviews with young folk pleased that they've been able to buy a foreclosed house that was half the price it was a year ago. They felt sad for the previous owner but pleased they had a house they thought they would never be able to afford. The fear of losing your job must permeate the grass roots as is happening here now.

My BFF in Orange County is the sales manager for a company owned by a German:


Have you noticed this 'slavery' in the workplace at grass roots level in your area?
 

GG - Simply to reduce the words needed to be read to get the significance of what went on behind the scenes.

What a huge operation and waste of money and resources to secure the house members and Obama from Osama!

Just sit back with your beer GG, have a snooze and don't worry.
 

Doris I am glad you have decreased the underlines and bolding in your latest post.

Your love for Obama is admirable.

Please give us some idea of measures we can use to assess his success in the enormous task ahead of him.

I have many employees who would endorse your comments on the workplace by the way. Good on you.

gg

 
LOL; don't leverage up to 100% against the 'equity' in your house and you won't have to be a wage-slave.

Yes! How awful for those who feel they have to work like Japanese to keep their jobs and thus their homes!

I just wondered how many others were putting pressure on their employees - extra hours for no added $$. ZzzzDad?

Is this happening here? But then our unions demand PAID overtime don't they - unless you're on a salary!

In my BFF's case, they own 50 acres at Big Sur (Ted Turner has the next allotment up the hill), a house they own and rent out in OC, as well as the one they own and live in. So they are 'lucky'.

But it's a bit much when we can't have our weekly chat as she needs more yoga time due to company product stress!
 
What did I tell you ?

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=402315&postcount=1642

 
Yesterday, President Obama submitted his first budget to Congress.


Brief video:

http://my.barackobama.com/thebudget


David is now campaigning for the next election!

The 'broad support' will be those who vote for Obama in 2012... as well as watching his implementations now.
 
2020 in case you're lurking...

Obama has today asked (Kansas governor) Kathleen Sebelius to head the Health and Human Services Department
- a major role to ensure all Americans have affordable health care.

Sebelius previously served as the Kansas insurance commissioner... the first to reject a proposed conversion of a non-profit Blue Cross Blue Shield into a for-profit company, slowing the pace of such conversions nationally.

Politically, she’s pretty savvy because she’s been trying to move a reform agenda thought a conservative state.

The Republican-controlled Kansas last year agreed to raise the income limit for the state’s subsidized insurance program for children whose parents earn too little to buy private coverage and too much to qualify for Medicaid.

The income limit for families of four was increased to $53,000 from $42,400.
The state still must find the necessary money to put the expansion into place but on Feb 5 Obama signed a law that more than doubles U.S. funding to about $12 billion annually from the current $5 billion.

She accepted, an administration official said. Obama will announce the nomination March 2 at the White House, the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said. Her nomination is subject to approval by the Senate.

I wonder if Obama will seek out the source of the 'anonymous leak'!
 
Doris, could you possibly give consideration to making a post without underlining?
 
Saw an interview with Jim Rogers last night he blasted past and present Fed Reserve chiefs and Presidents for not understanding whats going on, Japan tried the bail out trick and it DOESN'T WORK.

The present strategy will only make things worse and they will get much worse.

Don't suppose we can expect anything more from KRudd, he's way out of his depth.

Go here -

http://news.sbs.com.au/dateline/

look at the right hand side see videos, Jim Rogers interview, stupid web site doesnt show direct links - worth a look - really...........
 
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