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Barack Obama!

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Whenever I visit this thread it makes me think of Beatlemania.

I imagine Doris as a pimply faced teenage girl squealing hysterically at her pop idol Barak.

Isn't that when JFK was shot?

I imagine I'm sitting back smiling as I watch the poll results in November, almost two years after first seeing him and knowing instantly that this man could change the world.

I Imagine a future of international peace and cooperation.

I imagine Michelle becoming the first female president.
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I imagine I'm sitting back smiling as I watch the poll results in November, almost two years after first seeing him and knowing instantly that this man could change the world.

I Imagine a future of international peace and cooperation.
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Nice thought, but it's not wholly up to Obama, even if he does have pure intentions. A future Mr Keonfxqcnhrkquov or Won Hung Lo might just mess up the party, or indeed factions inside the US.

Not everyone *wants* peace, particularly the US military/industrial complex.
 
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lol - here's a book by a bloke name of Frank Luntz , "Words that Work"

http://books.google.com.au/books?id...cal+thinking"&sig=j_gh5q0XGxBhMq5p7kFosYbsE9I


This bloke is or used to be a Republican pollster (apparently)...
Here's a review... I suggest by a Democrat


"instructing readers to use small words and short sentences in their communications" ....
Ahhh, THIS is why GWBush's speeches use small words!! - shame he can't remember them and /or gets em mixed up.
 
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lol - here's a book by a bloke name of Frank Luntz , "Words that Work"

http://books.google.com.au/books?id...cal+thinking"&sig=j_gh5q0XGxBhMq5p7kFosYbsE9I


This bloke is or used to be a Republican pollster (apparently)...
Here's a review... I suggest by a Democrat


"instructing readers to use small words and short sentences in their communications" ....
Ahhh, THIS is why GWBush's speeches use small words!! - shame he can't remember them and /or gets em mixed up.

PS Trust the politicians to employ a wordsmith to do their polling (true, all polling is potentially a bit sus). I wonder if he writes the answers as well as the questions?
 
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Very sober comment Wayne!
All the more reason to have a 'conversationalist' as commander in chief.

On a micro level, I face ferals who don't want peace in the classroom. They are dysfunctional and I would get nowhere if I employed battle/war tactics. I give them detention and spend the time listening to their lives to figure out why they're seeking disruptive attention. 'Treat people the way you'd like to see them' often works. When you hear their stories and then help them to divert their energy towards a constructive pay-off for them, or refer them on for professional help, they are grateful that someone cared.
It's not always easy. But someone has to be the adult.
GWB reminds me of a Nun Hung Lo in the playground with his gang behind him to compensate for his inadequacies.
 
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Sorta off topic.
Except that Barack is probably keeping his image cleaner than most pollies...
(PS I almost posted this on the Global Warming thread - as a reflection of some of the scientists in the pay of the oil companes - but this will do just as well I guess).

A couple of quotes in general ...
by Robert Walpole, first PM of Gt Britain..

http://www.number-10.gov.uk/output/Page174.asp
1. "All those men have their price." (His opinion of his fellow parliamentarians)

2. To the Earl of Bath on their elevation to the House of Lords:
"My Lord Bath, you and I are now as insignificant men as any in England."

ROBERT WALPOLE, AND THE PRICE OF A MAN”S OPINION.
It was Walpole’s words at first steps, as
the first democratic PM -
as he stood in the stare of his house of reps
and he stared right back at them;
"Let’s proceed with the work of governing, Gents
and honour each other’s advice
but never forget , (and to hell with offence)
that ALL YOU MEN HAVE YOUR PRICE".


…….. (early share market )

 
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It seems the media want Obama, by their tactics.
I feel sad for Bill as they try to villainize him... promoting the twisting and colouring of his words. I believe Bill's 'fairy tale' comment in South Carolina was also blatantly misinterpreted. But the mud sticks...

DID Bill infer Obama was unpatriotic? Were Bill's comments a reference to Obama's complicity with Wright's rantings... or simply his attempt to focus on a concept of objective unity and not divisiveness for the country, as he promoted his wife's candidacy?

Is McPeak an opportunistic perpetrator of Chinese whispering?


Did Bill Clinton Call Obama Unpatriotic?

A new controversy flared up in the Democratic presidential race Saturday over remarks by former President Bill Clinton whom Barack Obama's campaign accused of using divisive tactics and unfairly trying to question the Illinois senator's patriotism.

Retired Gen. Merrill "Tony" McPeak, a co-chair of Obama's campaign, said he was astonished and disappointed by recent comments the former president made while speculating about a general election between Obama's Democratic rival, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and Republican John McCain.

Standing next to Obama on stage at a campaign rally in southern Oregon, the retired Air Force chief of staff repeated Bill Clinton's comments aloud to a silent audience.

The former president told a group of veterans Friday in Charlotte, North Carolina: "I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country. And people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics."

McPeak then said... "As one who for 37 years proudly wore the uniform of our country, I'm saddened to see a president employ these tactics. He of all people should know better because he was the target of exactly the same kind of tactics."

That apparently was a reference to Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign, when he was accused of dodging the Vietnam War draft.


Howard Wolfson, a spokesman for Hillary Clinton's campaign, said Saturday that McPeak's comments were a "deliberately pathetic misreading of what the president said." Wolfson said the remarks had nothing to do with Obama and were merely meant to underscore the need to keep the presidential race focused on issues.

It was not the first time Bill Clinton has been criticized for comments while campaigning on his wife's behalf. Before and after South Carolina's primary in January, the former president was accused of fanning racial tensions for appearing to cast Obama as little more than a black candidate popular in a state with a heavily black electorate.

McPeak also had made off-the-cuff remarks to reporters Friday in comparing the former president's comments with the actions of Joseph McCarthy, the 1950s communist-hunting senator.

"I was going to college when Joe McCarthy was accusing good Americans of being traitors, so I've had enough of it," McPeak said.

Wolfson called that comparison outrageous and called for a retraction.

"I think most Democrats were shocked to learn that a two-term Democratic president was compared to Joseph McCarthy," he said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/22/politics/main3960032.shtml
 
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Obama's acknowledgement of Richardson's endorsement seems to me like Obama's potential endorsement of him as his VP!

Sounds good to me!

2020... watch his hand movements. This is one of the best techniques of a good speaker!


 
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An article last January from the UK's Daily Mail newspaper, "A drunk and a bigot - what the U.S. Presidental hopeful HASN'T said about his father...": http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=431908&in_pge_id=1770

A comprehensive and interesting article Noirua! (January 2007... a year ago)

... the sins of the father. What a sad story. What a tragic waste of talent and opportunity.


Obama's book, Dreams from My Father...a Story of race and Inheritance, the source of article's comments, was first published in 1995... the year his father died. Re-published, unabridged, in 2004.


I so admire the way Barack's mother always gave him positive feedback on his father. This is not the norm for divorced mothers!
A boy must respect his father, as he grows, for a healthy self concept.

Barack only met his father once, as a teenager, when his father visited. He died when Barack was 21.


Isn't it ironic that Obama has been likened to JFK when he actually owes his life to him!

JFK Brought Obama’s Father to U.S. in 1960:

http://rfkin2008.wordpress.com/2008/01/12/jfk-brought-obamas-father-to-us-in-1960/
 
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ahh, lol
Taylor Mali runs rings around him

PS - you'll like this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxsOVK4syxU&feature=related

So true! Lovditt!

This one is hilarious too!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjhOBiSk8Gg&NR=1

But this isn't:

1 hour ago: http://www.dawn.com/2008/03/23/top15.htm

WASHINGTON, March 22: The Bush administration is involved in a new political storm following revelations that State Department contractors had improperly reviewed private passport files of three leading presidential candidates, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and John McCain.The scandal may further hurt the incumbent Republicans in an election year.

The news of prying into Mr Obama’s file came on Thursday evening and on Friday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice publicly apologised to Senator Obama and revealed that Mrs Clinton’s passport file was also breached in 2007 but gave no details.

The State Department said later Friday that the same contract employee who examined Senator Obama’s file also looked at Senator McCain’s.
 
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I so admire the way Barack's mother always gave him positive feedback on his father. This is not the norm for divorced mothers!
A boy must respect his father, as he grows, for a healthy self concept.
At the risk of perpetuating being off topic, I'd completely disagree with your comment that a boy must respect his father. Don't you think it would be completely inappropriate for any child to attempt to feel respect for an abusive father? There are plenty who fit this description.

And if Barack's mother gave him positive feedback about alcoholism I'd also have some doubts about her sense of values as well.
 
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Feeling a bit infantile about the whole Hillary/Barrak schmozzle?

http://www.miniclip.com/games/street-fight/en/

The Hillary versus Barrak fight game.



Barack seems to be backing away from the fight and his wife is pushing him back in. I can see who is the power behind the throne here. He's taken a terrible beating, when it's backs to the wall old Hillary can knock 'em cold, that's for sure.
 
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Don't know what you blokes thought of his "More Perfect Union" speech
- being hailed as one of the best since Lincoln's "Gettysburg", or King's "I have a Dream"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-creamer/why-obamas-speech-on-rac_b_92374.html

"Why Obama's Speech on Race Was Such a Political Home Run ?"
"Barack Obama showed America that he is the guy you want answering the red phone at 3AM."

 
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But the other refreshing thing (accoring to this article) is that he is speaking to Americans as adults.. and demonstrating his skills as an inspiring and "a transformational figure - both in America and on the world stage"

 
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http://www.newsday.com/news/opinion/ny-vpoba245624218mar24,0,4113753.story

Editorial: Investigate passport-file breaches
March 24, 2008

Dirty tricks? Say it ain't so. Better yet, prove it ain't so.
I like it


PS I'd love to know how long they spent looking at McCain's file - (ok next!)
compared to Obama's file - or Clinton's file for that matter
 
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PS I'd love to know how long they spent looking at McCain's file - (ok next!)
compared to Obama's file - or Clinton's file for that matter

Spot on 2020, It seems far more likely that they wanted to look at Barack Obama's file only, and then decided to look at Hillary Clinton's file and John McCain's file, to make 3 wrongs look more right or at the very least, not one wrong on its own.
 
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