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WAM's Chris Stott on RCG's share price plunge this past week:
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Having lost some 48% of its share price since the high in July 2016, is a reversal now imminent for RCG Corp?
Bottom pickers/mean reverters must be in a frenzy over this one.
Good point Knobby22, Amazon is the future of online shopping, but do people buy shoes online?
I mean the disruption just get bigger, retail shops are in a death spiral, clothing, cheap crap (TRS), electronics, everything, its a race to destruction.
Yes they do, it costs nothing to send them back, total refund no questions asked.
Honestly, I think thats a bit melodramatic. Sure there is some adjustment in process, but there is no sign of bricks and mortar shopping disappearing or its "destruction". No retail sales figures support that sort of change, nor does the anectdotal evidence of visiting packed shopping centers!
While the growth or online shopping will have some overlap with declines in retail shops there is also organic growth for online. It seems most plausible to me that both forms of retail have their place and will happily continue to co-exist.
Some people will, but shoes are actually a good example of something most people are unwilling to buy online - and the need to put the shoes on to feel how they fit is the biggest reason. Even if free returns and total refund were offered that wouldnt sway most people to purchase shoes online.
It seems to me there is an increasing liklihood that the supposed 'disrupters' dont really have nearly as much long term impact as the popularist press would have us believe. They tend to end up just being another way of doing things. There is an awful lot of capital that has flowed into incredibly unprofitable 'disrupters' on the back of this fad!
I think this is more close to the current narrative.Having said all that... I don't know RCG's weakness is really attributed to the threat of Amazon. It has reported weaker sales growth and other retailers have generally been somewhere between weak (JBH, SUL, HVN) to smashed (TRS, ADH, ORL). Perhaps the threat of rising mortgage rates on discretionary spending is a much more imminent headwind.
The off-balance sheet liabilities like lease commitments are something I'd really keep an eye on and arguably this is where online retailers really get a free-kick - the only space they need to pay for is their headquarters and their distribution centres. For a retailer with physical shop space you have to make lease repayments regardless of how many people are coming into your stores. If there is a bad recession and stores in marginal areas need to close how much is the ongoing lease liability in the worst case scenario?
Net debt is also $50m (not sure how seasonal the cash is so it could be a bit more). I'm not sure how recession proof that is either, but I assume discretionary retailers would ideally operate with little to no debt when times get tough to provide funding flexibility.
I believe you can in most cases but it depends on the lease and the circumstances. Obviously you also need to find a new tenant and if your own business is struggling is the chance of this very high?Stupid question... do retail lease work like residential lease when it comes to breaking the lease? If another business wants to use the space vacated and make the lease payments, does that mean the previous lease holder is off the hook?
Indeed, that is why discretionary retailers generally have conservative balance sheets because their working capital and cash cycles can become onerous very quickly if they are struggling. Retailers technically can be profitable (in an accounting sense) and still fail.By no means drawing a comparison... but from memory DickSmith had no net debt 12 months before it's collapse.
Stupid question... do retail lease work like residential lease when it comes to breaking the lease? If another business wants to use the space vacated and make the lease payments, does that mean the previous lease holder is off the hook?
Honestly, I think thats a bit melodramatic. Sure there is some adjustment in process, but there is no sign of bricks and mortar shopping disappearing or its "destruction".
Yeah sure a little dramatic, but where is the compelling investment case for retail?
Same as always, well run businesses, with good management and continuing growth. Maybe you have to look a little harder with consumer sentiment currently, but I dont think there is nearly as much 'disruption' as some would have us believe.
Other sectors have different hazards, its the nature of the game!
Personally I dont worry too much about that sort of macro economic, crystal ball gazing. Its not so long ago the same 'experts' were writing off the mining and mining services sector, no one was predicting the turn around we have seen in the last 6 months or so.
None the less, your strong viewpoint on retail has made me revisit my analysis for the retailers that I hold and consider how well positioned they are to face the challenges of low growth and growing online competition. That is one of the advantages of the variety of opinions on ASF, it helps inform ones decision making process and encourages challenging my biases!
In the case of RCG I do feel that shoes are much less at risk of loss of market share to online retail and are also less discretionary than a lot of other retail products. Financially it has been a good business for my SMSF, delivering nearly 100% increase in SP and gross dividends of nearly 25% in the 2 years I have held - it would need to be a compelling case to make me think my money would be better somewhere else!
If the business valuation hasn't moved in line with the SP increase (100% in 2 years is a big ask), then this is an argument against holding, all else being equal.
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