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Absolutely, give it to the private sector, they will bleed the Government dry, then close it IMO.They have to nationalise it in my view. They don't seem to realise that commercial considerations should come second to having materials available to the correct standards for our infrastructure.
They seem to have been suckered by people shouting "sovereign risk" and that State ownership is Socialism. Some Labor party.
I will post the link and the phrase that worries me, who the hell is going to make sure that it isn't just another asset stripping junket? Why the hell wouldn't the Governments put it under Government ownership, the last bloke only paid $870m for it and the S.A and Feds are talking about pouring in $2.4 Billon, for the new owner WTF.
Fully agree with the sentiment, however here in W.A we had a blast furnace, which happened to be the most efficient in Australia at changing silicon content in the pig iron produced, with minimal wastage from memory.The basic thinking at Whyalla is to find a new owner and government will fund repairs and modernisation of the plant, noting much of it's in an extremely run down state, with conditions attached about ongoing operations and so on.
As with anything of course, the devil will be in the legal detail....
We still haven't learnt the lesson of Hazelwood.Fully agree with the sentiment, however here in W.A we had a blast furnace, which happened to be the most efficient in Australia at changing silicon content in the pig iron produced, with minimal wastage from memory.
As soon as the parent company could divest itself of its obligations to build a steel furnace, it closed.
Australia has a history of companies taking over socially important infrastructure, then stripping them bare and bleeding Governments dry, before the carcass is cast into the ditch.
Hopefully this isn't history repeating, because if it is, I would be surprised if the Government survives the backlash.
Just my thoughts, but I've actually lived through similar stories, I was working at the blast furnace when the tragedy unfolded.
We obviously haven't learnt anything from the 1987 stock market crash, where entrepreneurs geared up and stripped the public and the Government.We still haven't learnt the lesson of Hazelwood.
In principle I fully agree. I'll post more later.IMO the Government would be far better off owning and using Whyalla as a case study, to see if green steel is possible, before throwing endless amounts of money at private companies scamming and stringing out the dream, until it is dead on the vine and has cost the taxpayers zillions of dollars.
So someone else will take on board a basket case, on the hope they can not only restore the heap, but also transform it?In principle I fully agree. I'll post more later.
As for the present owner, well it goes like this.
To make steel you need coke but they ain't got no coke.
To make coke you need coking coal, but they ain't got no coal.
To dig coal out of the ground they need diesel, but it turns out the oil companies aren't running a charity and only supply fuel if they're paid for it.
So no diesel > no coal > no coke > no steel > no money > no diesel > no coal > no coke > no steel > no money > rinse and repeat.
With the added problem that it's all run down, worn out and neglected with major failures having stopped production for months at a time.
I see two likely outcomes:So someone else will take on board a basket case, on the hope they can not only restore the heap, but also transform it?
Not only that they will put in some of their own money? Really
IMO the Government would be far better off owning and using Whyalla as a case study, to see if green steel is possible, before throwing endless amounts of money at private companies scamming and stringing out the dream, until it is dead on the vine and has cost the taxpayers zillions of dollars.
As I said, it would be far better for the Government to oversee the repairs and modifications $2.2 billion is a lot of money.
There are precedents for things working in similar situations albeit quite some time ago.Estimates to upgrade the steel plant to world class standards are at 6 billion dollars, add another billion for the hydrogen plant and you have a nice chunk of taxpayer dollars invested in a government owned company. Run by unions, administered by unions, financed by taxpayers.
The rising price tag for Labor's Future Made in Australia raises difficult questions over whether the nation's existing industrial base can be sustained, let alone expanded into hydrogen-fuelled green dreams.
The $2.4 billion state and federal government bailout to avoid a Whyalla steel-making wipeout is supposedly a one-off, assuming that whoever ends up running the promised new electric are furnace can turn a profit out of it.
But it follows federal Labor's 10-year,
$2 billion "green aluminium production credit" subsidy aimed at funding Rio Tinto's hopes of powering its energy-hungry aluminium smelter near Gladstone with wind, solar and batteries, possibly with gas backup.
Australia has become even more of a high-cost economy that has lost the cheap energy advantage that helped build its steel plants, aluminium smelters and industrial processing operations in the 1960s, 70s and 80s.
High hopes shared by Andrew Forrest and others that renewables-based hydrogen would turn Australia into a green energy superpower processor of its rich natural resource base have faded. The Whyalla steel bailout is based on using gas, rather than hydro, to replace coal.
Now Australia's steel and aluminium
industries are caught in the crossfire of Donald Trump's trade war tariffs and
China's over-production.
Chinese money pumping up dirty nickel production in Indonesia led BHP to shut its West Australian nickel mines, refinery and smelter last year.
Other resource processing operations are at risk, including Glencores Mt Isa copper smelter.
Now Australia is offering subsidies not just to keep old industries alive but for future-facing minerals processing to supply batteries and electric vehicles.
Federal parliament last week passed a $7 billion, 10 per cent production tax credit over a decade for critical minerals such as lithium, where projects have had to be mothballed because of a global price collapse.
More or less plausible-sounding cases can be made for individual examples of these multiplying industry policy subsidies.
In Whyalla yesterday, Anthony
Albanese bagged the former Coalition government for telling American-owned car makers to "bugger off" from South Australia.
Yet the Rudd-Gillard government wasted billions of dollars of taxpayer money on a "
'green car plan" that just
lined the pockets of American and Japanese car companies on their inevitable way out the door.
It would be great if greenish steel-making could be sustained at Whyalla given its established steelworks, its access to high-quality magnetite and its nearby harbour.
But not enough is being done to tackle the impediments to investing private risk capital in Australias high-cost economy, including an internationally uncompetitive 30 per cent company tax rate.
Labor's scattergun Made In Australia subsidies extend to manufacturing solar panels in a market that has been flooded by cheap Chinese product. "We make bugger all here," Albanese complained in Whyalla yesterday.
The bailouts come with the moral hazard of investing political capital, as well as taxpayers' money. Who knows if either federal or state Labor will end up with some sort of equity stake in Whyalla, as now being flagged for the collapsed regional airline Rex
Meanwhile, the mining and energy industries that have supported Australia's modern prosperity are being unnecessarily handicapped.
Federal Environment Minister
Tanya Pliberse this week delayed approval of an extension of Woodside's
North West Shelf gas project.
As The Australian Financial Review reported, the assessment process for approving the extension to an existing project has taken more than six years.
Gas is part of the low-carbon energy transition. Yet Labor is reluctant to approve more gas supply because it could lose votes to the Greens and teals at the WA and federal elections.
It seems to be more politically rewarding to put taxpayers on the hook for industries where Australia's comparative advantage is less clear
the clive and puline party?Surprised nobody has commented so far on Clive's next sojourn into politics with his Trumpet Patriots Party or whatever it is... In an effort to mirror the policies of the gracious and noble God Emperor
A bit of a laugh really at this point... It's like whack a mole at every election.
I like the idea, but is Clive the leader to deliver that?
Yeah Nah.... but, he's got the moolah to campaign that other freedom parties don't.
It will be interesting if he can make more than a light scratch on the majors this time.
Hopefully this upcoming election will be the last time we may see the Oaf from Qld peddling his political ambitions.the clive and puline party?
he must think that his money is influenced through prefrences as it sure isnt buying many sets, Senetor Babet was his only real success last eletion
What's even stranger, is how the Govt is now pouring money into the private sector to convert to renewables and it is exactly the issue they had with Abbott, when he suggested it in 2014.View attachment 193695
Australia has become even more of a high-cost economy that has lost the cheap energy advantage that helped build its steel plants, aluminium smelters and industrial processing operations in the 1960s, 70s and 80s.High hopes shared by Andrew Forrest and others that renewables-based hydrogen would turn Australia into a green energy superpower processor of its rich natural resource base have faded. The Whyalla steel bailout is based on using gas, rather than hydro, to replace coal.
Dear old Johnny. A true Cinservative, he did as little as possible when he was in power.
Dear old Johnny. A true Cinservative, he did as little as possible when he was in power.
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