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Australian Federal Election - 2022

Who will win the the upcoming Federal Election?


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This election has been a big turnoff. Much worse than previous elections.
If it was a reality TV program (which it resembles) it would have been cancelled after the first week.
The problem seems to be the ABC, SMH etc are ratcheting up the anti scomo rhetoric, but it seems to be about issues that the mainstream public don't relate to, a lot of the issues are Sydney based, no one west of the blue mountains probably gives a $hit about the issue.
The media needs to focus on issues that affect all Australians, because all Australians vote, not just Sydney/Melbourne, which as usual the media is focusing on IMO.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...d-as-pm-digs-in-on-deves-20220416-p5adw6.html


At the moment from a W.A perspective, all I'm seeing on the internet news is, some Liberal candidate doesn't like the idea, of blokes who feel they are women shouldn't be allowed to run in women's events or something like that. The media obviously think there is a storm in a teacup brewing, so are all over it as usual but most think 'what the', why does someone have to commit to agreeing with someone?everyone has their right to their opinion. Well that was until recently, when if you don't agree with the media opinion, then you are hounded to death. :wacky:
This is starting to look like a train wreck IMO.
The media needs to back off on nitpicking the Libs and start and promote Albo's message, which as I said long ago he should have been rolling out much earlier.
It isn't as though he is a salesman, he is just IMO a decent bloke who would probably have a moral compass, the media isn't presenting that at all IMO.
But then again, who said the media had brains, they are just trained to present bad news in an exciting fashion.
 
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The problem seems to be the ABC, SMH etc are ratcheting up the anti scomo rhetoric, but it seems to be about issues that the mainstream public don't relate to, a lot of the issues are Sydney based, no one west of the blue mountains probably gives a $hit about the issue.
The media needs to focus on issues that affect all Australians, because all Australians vote, not just Sydney/Melbourne, which as usual the media is focusing on IMO.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...d-as-pm-digs-in-on-deves-20220416-p5adw6.html


At the moment from a W.A perspective, all I'm seeing on the internet news is, some Liberal candidate doesn't like the idea, of blokes who feel they are women shouldn't be allowed to run in women's events or something like that. The media obviously think there is a storm in a teacup brewing, so are all over it as usual but most think 'what the', why does someone have to commit to agreeing with someone?everyone has their right to their opinion. Well that was until recently, when if you don't agree with the media opinion, then you are hounded to death. :wacky:
This is starting to look like a train wreck IMO.
The media needs to back off on nitpicking the Libs and start and promote Albo's message, which as I said long ago he should have been rolling out much earlier.
It isn't as though he is a salesman, he is just IMO a decent bloke who would probably have a moral compass, the media isn't presenting that at all IMO.
But then again, who said the media had brains, they are just trained to present bad news in an exciting fashion.
Absolutely. Pick up on Albaneses gaff and chew on it like a dog with a bone. Very little policy discussion, all petty point scoring. Very disappointing.
 
Absolutely. Pick up on Albaneses gaff and chew on it like a dog with a bone. Very little policy discussion, all petty point scoring. Very disappointing.
This is the problem with all the news outlets centralising their news desks, it loses the local flavour and loses touch with local feedback, Australia has just become a Country that revolves around Sydney/Melbourne and the rest of Australia is a pimple on its ar$e.
Sad really, because you have these media muppets on $1m plus a year, telling those in regional Australia how life is.
When in reality they have no idea how life is, we really are in a sad state of disrepair, all the the things that made Australia the Country it is are being torn down.
Which is fine, that's life, but I hope the people who are doing it are happy with the end result.
 
Have to say the incessant ads for UAP is giving me the xhits.

They make the Greens look positively conservative. 3% home loans for 5 years to save your homes. 15% export tax on iron ore to reduce the National debt. :rolleyes:
 
Have to say the incessant ads for UAP is giving me the xhits.

They make the Greens look positively conservative. 3% home loans for 5 years to save your homes. 15% export tax on iron ore to reduce the National debt. :rolleyes:
Yes what is he thinking of, helping those with a mortgage and getting extra tax on our resources, he must be smoking something everyone else who has suggested these sort of things has been really hammered. :roflmao:
He won't last 5 minutes with that platform. :xyxthumbs
 
Yes what is he thinking of, helping those with a mortgage and getting extra tax on our resources, he must be smoking something everyone else who has suggested these sort of things has been really hammered. :roflmao:
I haven't seen anything close to realistic about how the 3% mortgage guarantee would work.
Unless of course one nationalizes the banks or perhaps throws in any extra interest costs above 3%:rolleyes:

A 15% extra levy on iron ore ? At the very least I'd like to see how that was achieved and some analysis of the impact it would have

In any case I totally and utterly despise/distrust Clive Palmer/ Craig Kelly and co. The bandwagon of COVID denial they pushed destroys any trust I could have in them. Their flagrant lies about the wondrous "history" of the UAP (Menzies, Lyons as Leaders ) raises the bile.
Just shameless.:mad:

 
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I haven't seen anything close to realistic about how the 3% mortgage guarantee would work.
Unless of course one nationalizes the banks or perhaps throws in any extra interest costs above 3%:rolleyes:

A 15% extra levy on iron ore ? At the very least I'd like to see how that was achieved and some analysis of the impact it would have

In any case I totally and utterly despise/distrust Clive Palmer/ Craig Kelly and co. The bandwagon of COVID denial they pushed destroys any trust I could have in them. Their flagrant lies about the wondrous "history" of the UAP (Menzies, Lyons as Leaders ) raises the bile.
Just shameless.:mad:

They certainly seem to be intent on inventing reasons not to vote for them. I can't imagine any focus group of potent UAP voters coming up with those doozies.
 
I haven't seen anything close to realistic about how the 3% mortgage guarantee would work.
Unless of course one nationalizes the banks or perhaps throws in any extra interest costs above 3%:rolleyes:

A 15% extra levy on iron ore ? At the very least I'd like to see how that was achieved and some analysis of the impact it would have

In any case I totally and utterly despise/distrust Clive Palmer/ Craig Kelly and co. The bandwagon of COVID denial they pushed destroys any trust I could have in them. Their flagrant lies about the wondrous "history" of the UAP (Menzies, Lyons as Leaders ) raises the bile.
Just shameless.:mad:

Just think if we were a republic, he would be running for President. ?
 
This is the worst election I've ever seen when it comes to "legal" BS...

"Now claims that older Australians’s savings are at risk are back in twin scare campaigns: from Labor, arguing that pensioners will be put on the cashless debit card; and from the Coalition, that the retiree tax may not be dead."


That's how you win elections these days - scare the crap out of senior folks :mad:
 
This is the worst election I've ever seen when it comes to "legal" BS...

"Now claims that older Australians’s savings are at risk are back in twin scare campaigns: from Labor, arguing that pensioners will be put on the cashless debit card; and from the Coalition, that the retiree tax may not be dead."


That's how you win elections these days - scare the crap out of senior folks :mad:
Apparently the polls freaked out Labor and they had to go on the attack. Unfortunately they were just losing to much ground without it.

It does speak volumes though about election cycles
 
This is the problem with all the news outlets centralising their news desks, it loses the local flavour and loses touch with local feedback, Australia has just become a Country that revolves around Sydney/Melbourne and the rest of Australia is a pimple on its ar$e.
Sad really, because you have these media muppets on $1m plus a year, telling those in regional Australia how life is.
When in reality they have no idea how life is, we really are in a sad state of disrepair, all the the things that made Australia the Country it is are being torn down.
Which is fine, that's life, but I hope the people who are doing it are happy with the end result.
Radio jock Steve Price is a prime example. So called hard hitting veteran journalist who prostituted himself by going on "Celebrity Get Me Out of Here" to raise his profile outside of Victoria. It just pissed me off, listening to Price broadcasting in regional NSW from his waterfront apartment on the Mornington Peninsula in Victoria, and thought, FU don't tell me what to do.

One day, Price was ad-libbing it with the newsreader on the "Australia Today" radio program, they were discussing the aging population of Australia. Price said " Australians are living longer, the government may have to look at raising the pension age". I thought, what a dope that he was oblivious to the fact they have already done it. I now refuse to listen to that privileged twit.
 
The problem seems to be the ABC, SMH etc are ratcheting up the anti scomo rhetoric, but it seems to be about issues that the mainstream public don't relate to, a lot of the issues are Sydney based, no one west of the blue mountains probably gives a $hit about the issue.
The media needs to focus on issues that affect all Australians, because all Australians vote, not just Sydney/Melbourne, which as usual the media is focusing on IMO.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...d-as-pm-digs-in-on-deves-20220416-p5adw6.html


At the moment from a W.A perspective, all I'm seeing on the internet news is, some Liberal candidate doesn't like the idea, of blokes who feel they are women shouldn't be allowed to run in women's events or something like that. The media obviously think there is a storm in a teacup brewing, so are all over it as usual but most think 'what the', why does someone have to commit to agreeing with someone?everyone has their right to their opinion. Well that was until recently, when if you don't agree with the media opinion, then you are hounded to death. :wacky:
This is starting to look like a train wreck IMO.
The media needs to back off on nitpicking the Libs and start and promote Albo's message, which as I said long ago he should have been rolling out much earlier.
It isn't as though he is a salesman, he is just IMO a decent bloke who would probably have a moral compass, the media isn't presenting that at all IMO.
But then again, who said the media had brains, they are just trained to present bad news in an exciting fashion.
The problem is, all the RWNJ's west of the Blue Mountains (and a good deal of them east of there, too) think that their yokel-based 'expert opinions' somehow hold weight.

Deves should be hung, drawn and quartered for her comments IMHO. The ignorant Great Unwashed, including the PM and many conservative voters, are big on rhetoric and dog whistling, driving fear into themselves and others that somehow, trans people are taking over the world (wait until Hanson says that we are being swamped by trannies!). Deves' pile-on is completely warranted.

Let's look at the issue itself. Deves seems to be saying that girl's and women's sport should be 'protected' from supposedly physically superior Assigned Males At Birth competing against the females, simply because they purposely got their dicks cut off to win against them.

Does anyone here who supports Deve's or Morrison's stance actually know what the transition process involves? I didn't think so.

Androgen Deprivation Therapy must be undertaken for at least 12 months. Within the first month, testosterone levels are reduced to the castrate level. This is less than the small level found in people born and recognised as 'female'. So, 'natural' women have more testosterone than trans women. For trans women, purely due to ADT, muscle mass is significantly reduced, weight is gained, bone thinning is common, post-menopausal symptoms such as hot flushes are constantly endured, and, at best, depression induced from ADT is only just negated by the mental release from gender dysphoria. If a trans woman looks ripped it's because she's worked much harder in the gym than her equivalent fat male counterpart who sits at his desk eating donuts and thinks he deserves superiority, or some blonde bimbo from the northern beaches!

Opponents of trans women competing in female sporting competitions tend to focus on their winning records. From the following article I will highlight this -

The issue bubbles away, but every so often a sports story emerges that puts the issue back in the spotlight. Most recently it was American swimmer Lia Thomas competing in the NCAA college championships.

In mid-March Thomas made history by winning the 500-yard freestyle race, becoming the first transgender woman to win an NCAA title in swimming. Much was made of her performance in beating two Olympic silver medallists.

What wasn't explained was that the 500-yard event is not a distance contested at either the world championships or the Olympic Games. The two silver medallists in Thomas's race were specialists in other events. Thomas's winning time of 4 minutes and 33.24 seconds was almost a full 10 seconds behind the NCAA record for the event, a long way short of the "smashing" of the record others had predicted.

At the same championships, from 18 events, 13 records were broken, three of them by a single swimmer who nobody is talking about.


 
I'm sure it is one of those issues that sorts itself out, as far as I know there aren't a lot of trans athletes competing, so who knows if they will dominate women's sport at this time.
 
I'm sure it is one of those issues that sorts itself out, as far as I know there aren't a lot of trans athletes competing, so who knows if they will dominate women's sport at this time.
Personally, I am of the view, that the chosen solution to the problem, is a long way short of ideal, as it appears to be undermining the integrity of outcomes, and thereby generating resentment towards the trans community.

I believe the creation of new categories, designed to cater for trans men, and trans women, would prove to be a far more equitable solution, and am wondering why our esteemed leaders aren't promoting aforedescribed (or similar) solution.
 
Personally, I am of the view, that the chosen solution to the problem, is a long way short of ideal, as it appears to be undermining the integrity of outcomes, and thereby generating resentment towards the trans community.

I believe the creation of new categories, designed to cater for trans men, and trans women, would prove to be a far more equitable solution, and am wondering why our esteemed leaders aren't promoting aforedescribed (or similar) solution.
^^ This is the only sensible approach.
 
The problem is, all the RWNJ's west of the Blue Mountains (and a good deal of them east of there, too) think that their yokel-based 'expert opinions' somehow hold weight.

Deves should be hung, drawn and quartered for her comments IMHO. The ignorant Great Unwashed, including the PM and many conservative voters, are big on rhetoric and dog whistling, driving fear into themselves and others that somehow, trans people are taking over the world (wait until Hanson says that we are being swamped by trannies!). Deves' pile-on is completely warranted.

Let's look at the issue itself. Deves seems to be saying that girl's and women's sport should be 'protected' from supposedly physically superior Assigned Males At Birth competing against the females, simply because they purposely got their dicks cut off to win against them.

Does anyone here who supports Deve's or Morrison's stance actually know what the transition process involves? I didn't think so.

Androgen Deprivation Therapy must be undertaken for at least 12 months. Within the first month, testosterone levels are reduced to the castrate level. This is less than the small level found in people born and recognised as 'female'. So, 'natural' women have more testosterone than trans women. For trans women, purely due to ADT, muscle mass is significantly reduced, weight is gained, bone thinning is common, post-menopausal symptoms such as hot flushes are constantly endured, and, at best, depression induced from ADT is only just negated by the mental release from gender dysphoria. If a trans woman looks ripped it's because she's worked much harder in the gym than her equivalent fat male counterpart who sits at his desk eating donuts and thinks he deserves superiority, or some blonde bimbo from the northern beaches!

Opponents of trans women competing in female sporting competitions tend to focus on their winning records. From the following article I will highlight this -

The issue bubbles away, but every so often a sports story emerges that puts the issue back in the spotlight. Most recently it was American swimmer Lia Thomas competing in the NCAA college championships.

In mid-March Thomas made history by winning the 500-yard freestyle race, becoming the first transgender woman to win an NCAA title in swimming. Much was made of her performance in beating two Olympic silver medallists.

What wasn't explained was that the 500-yard event is not a distance contested at either the world championships or the Olympic Games. The two silver medallists in Thomas's race were specialists in other events. Thomas's winning time of 4 minutes and 33.24 seconds was almost a full 10 seconds behind the NCAA record for the event, a long way short of the "smashing" of the record others had predicted.

At the same championships, from 18 events, 13 records were broken, three of them by a single swimmer who nobody is talking about.


I got to "RWNJ" and concluded this is waffle that should immediately be discarded from reasonable discussion.

Pfffft
 
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