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Australia Day


This is, quite simply, outrageous.
 
If the Australia’s high commissioner to Britain Stephen Smith is too busy or doesn't believe in Australia Day, he should resign.
The high commissioner said he would snub Australia Day celebrations for a second year in a row, after he signalled to organisers he may not be in London for the event.
Mr Smith ignited controversy last year when he informed organisers he would not be opening the doors to the Exhibition Hall of the Australian high commission in London for the gala. He reportedly cited concerns it would not be appropriate to hold the dinner around January 26, which marks the First Fleet’s landing in Sydney in 1788.




 
he has done pretty well out of his position. Who is he to say no to Australia Day. Unless of course he is a First people masquerading as a white Australian.
 
Just wish they would change Jan 26 to what if is and that's British settlement day celebrate it for what the day is and chose a day all Australians including the 1st mob here can enjoy.

This is so we can at least grow up and be adults and stop the falsehood that the 26th represents anything else.

Unfortunately wont happen example is Charles II (Big Ears) is still our leader.
 
Looks like a line in the sand moment -

Mr Dutton said the Coalition would act quickly to reintroduce the requirement.
“Would we reinstate the requirement for councils to hold citizenship ceremonies on Australia Day? You bet it’ll be done in the first 100 days, and it will be a sign of pride and nationalism in our country,” he said.
“So the Prime Minister sent a signal to those councils that Australia Day didn’t matter, but that’s exactly what it did,” Mr Dutton said.
The Opposition Leader also accused government appointees, such as Stephen Smith, of being ashamed of Australia, a sentiment he said was incomprehensible to him.

 
I've never gone out of my way to celebrate Australia Day, but I have attended a few celebrations over the years and organised one for my family at home in front of the pool many years ago. I have always thought that Federation Day would be a better day to celebrate. However, I strongly believe that the majority should not be bullied by a vocal minority.

And I feel the vibe of change happening.

Even if we became a republic, created Sorry Day, changed the date of Australia Day, voted yes to an Indigenous voice, and renamed every town and river with Aboriginal names, it still wouldn’t satisfy the insatiable demands of woke ideologues.

Like dealing with an abusive partner, the only solution is to refuse to be denigrated.
There are malevolent actors out there who would like to see the West and its values destroyed. We know that you can’t placate them or politely request respect. The only option is to stop playing their game.
It’s the same for those who want us to feel ashamed for celebrating the national day on January 26: stop trying to placate them by removing Australia Day products from shelves or changing the date.


 
The worm is definitely turning, and right across the west. Like a population mangey mongrel feral cats decimating native wildlife, woke will be difficult to eradicate outright, but we're starting to bag a few.

The Zuckster being a case in point, as is the election of the glorious God Emperor.
 
@JohnDe Well put John and I totally agree with your sentiments.
 
Looking forward to the January Long Weekend this weekend...

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It was announced on the arvo TV news that the Australia day celebrations here in Perth will be bigger and better than ever.
Of course, one Basil Zemplis, the current Lord Mayor and wanna be State Premier, will do all he can to achieve this.
Should be a good occasion down on the Swan River and the surrounds vantage points.
No doubts the pubs and cafes etc will be more than happy.
 
I have always thought that Federation Day would be a better day to celebrate. However, I strongly believe that the majority should not be bullied by a vocal minority.

And I feel the vibe of change happening.
In principle I'm amenable and somewhat in favour of changing the date.

1 January is somewhat problematic as are some other plausible dates. Eg 29 March when the first federal election was held is a potentially reasonable one, it marks the effective birth of Australia governing itself, but has the problem of in some years overlapping with Easter.

Another possibility is 31 July, the date in 1900 when WA became the last state to decide, via referendum, to join the federation and thus form Australia as we now know it. It doesn't really overlap with anything, only real downside is those in Victoria and Tasmania might not be overly keen on having a public holiday in the middle of winter.

That aside though, I do strongly agree with your second sentence:

I strongly believe that the majority should not be bullied by a vocal minority

On a substantial number of issues we seem to have come to a point where Australians do not in practice have freedom of expression. Because the moment anyone publicly says something on those subjects they'll be subject to being shouted down, personally mocked or ridiculed, belittled and so on if their comments disagree with that of the vocal minority.

Examples of such issues include, but are not limited to, the date of Australia Day, any issue involving Aboriginals, any issue that is gendered, any proposal to build a large dam, immigration, population, through to even highly technical subjects most notably electricity generation.

Say anything that some disagree with and you'll cop it. Hence on another subject, energy, essentially all professionals have at this point ceased public comment on the subject at least via any mainstream outlet, and there aren't many left who'll even comment anonymously. Because we're in an environment where hard facts and intelligent debate are no match for the mob shouting and screaming. Or worse.....

We desperately need to return to a situation of rational public debate. Remembering that everyone has the right to their own opinion but they do not have the right to their own facts. Value judgements are subjective, hard data is not.

Elaborating on that detail, the accuracy of data can of course be questioned but if for example you accept as true that WA has the largest land area of any state then no, you don't get to concoct some convoluted argument to show that Victoria is larger. That's not a quest for ideas or presenting a differing viewpoint, it's just an outright lie on a subject where hard data provides a clear answer to the question beyond reasonable doubt.

That's as distinct from an issue such as the appropriate date for Australia Day where there's no "hard" answer, it's not something that can be measured or calculated. Rather, it's a subjective value judgement as to the arguments for or against any particular date where differing opinions are to be expected and are perfectly reasonable. Public debate ought be approached from that perspective.

In short, I'm saying we need to change the approach to how issues are debated publicly. Getting back to one where everyone has a right to express their own opinion on subjective matters but where facts are facts.
 
Yes, speak we must; know your stuff and fear no man.


Re Aus Day. I agree that Jan 26 doesn't make a whole lot of sense in terms of Australia as an integral nation, but as you say, nothing else makes sense or is problematic like Jan 1st.

Additionally, the grievance industry will simply invent some other excuse to annoy everyone with on a different day.

I say just keep the day.
 
@wayneL Hear, hear. Let the bellyachers and whingers do their grievance bit, but for the of us we can enjoy the day and fireworks.
 

The day we become a republic will be the day. It's gunna take a lot of will but a referendum on a republic, a new flag and a new 'Australia Day' all at once might work. But, a huge leap. Maybe one at a time over a few years.

Is it just a small minority who are causing all the trouble with this day?

Batman could have done better, but defacing an ANZAC memorial is nuts.

 
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On 26 January 1788 1st Fleet pulls into Port Jackson of New Holland to start the British Penal Colony of NSW.

Australia doesn't exist.

About 10 to 15 years Matthew Flinders names the land Terra Australis later suggesting Australia, still not Australia it doesn't exist.

Mid 1820's the British Admiralty starts calling us Australia.

118 years after the 1st fleet Australia comes into being through federation 1901.

Why is there an argument over Jan 26 as it has no relevance?
 
I have been fortunate along with all of my relatives that we have never drawn from the ballot box to fight another politician's war.
That said, i find the desecration of any War memorial to be offensive to the max.
To the yard arm I say and flog the shyt out of the barsta*ds
 

Pure symbolism as it was around the date the First Fleet landed in Sydney Cove after deciding Botany Bay was crap. That was the 'invasion'.

Vandalising Cook statues because he 'invaded' is nuts.

Anyone not happy with the English colonising this wide brown land should hand in their mobile phones.
 
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