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Lyehopper said:
WHY? what's wrong with the death penality? "It".... has already gone to crap dude!.... hell fire!!! "they've" taken your guns away.... "They've" open the door for Islamic terrorists.... and you just want "THEM" to pass more stinkin laws! Just wait till you good fellas experience your very own 9-11.... TAKE BACK YOUR BLOODY COUNTRY...... NOW!!!! :sword:
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Nothing wrong with it. At least they will not do the crime again. We as a nation just go along with what ever the government (them) tells us.

We have to lock our fire arms away so crooks can not get them, but if they do get their hands on them we are charged!! Never mind that some one just BROKE IN TO YOUR HOUSE to get them.

And we make a national hero out of a convicted drug pusher!!!

Peter
 
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Just chuck these little punks in jail, in the same cell as "Bubba" and see how they go without weapons or a gang of their mates. Even better if Bubba has AIDS. "You dont like whitey? Lets see how you like a big ol' black bull queer!" No offence to black dudes- but ive seen quite a few pornos and I figure one of you blokes would cause the most stitches. :D
 
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Milk Man said:
but ive seen quite a few pornos :D
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Mate, they are banned in Queensland as well! Good to see the government watching what we watch.
Cheers,
Peter
 
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"After a spate of violence on Sydneys beaches, Prime Miniture John Coward has declared a ban on beach front property.
Under new laws, Houses with a driveway shorter than 10 m will be illegal as they may be a concealable residence, also, houses with a greater land area than 38sq will be outlawed "Their is no need for anyone to own big beach front properties" said the Prime Miniture "No-one needs a house bigger than the police".
Following the recent violent attacks on lifesavers and beach goers by lawless thugs, Mr Coward said, "It is obvious that Beach front suburbs cause crime, a buyback is the only way to make Australia safer".
When questioned at length by a few journalists capable of independant thought and analysis, The Prime Miniture said he did not see it as a useless move, aimed at placating the democrats and greens allied communist party, but pointed to his huge success with the gun buy back. After all, crime has dropped to almost non existent levels following the Gubbermints expensive gun buy backs and it is an obvious link that guns and beach front property are sole source of crime in Australia. The Prime Miniture also denied any existance of racial tensions, saying he had his head so far up his own arse, he was un-aware of any tensions, and pointed to his loving relationship with the United States President "Dubbya", saying "why cant we all just get along like Dubbya and I".
The US president was un-available for comment, saying only "I wish he'd stop dropping my name and stalking me."
Pictures at 10....."


I just got this from a hunting site. Thought some people here may like it.
Cheers,
Peter
 
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Whoever wrote this is a real dill. Has no idea of difference between state and federal responsibilities. Political bias with no brains.
 
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Smurf:

Can't begin to imagine how furious you must feel, and how frustrated. What else are you supposed to do?

Meantime, re the rioting punks of the weekend: I don't suppose many of them are employed. I don't suppose it would occur to many of them to think of getting a job instead of creating hell. Whilst they wallow in their self indulgent paranoia, the rest of us are probably funding their very existence in the form of unemployment benefits.

Julia
 
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It just made the news here in the U.S.
 
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okay folks, I've noticed a bit of unsavoury stuff entering the debates, let's keep it on topic and avoid any race based slants or unsavoury comments unless it's backed up with more than just a generalisation. From the news footage and some reports it appears there are various ethnicities involved so you can't just 'send them back to their country' because they are already in it. Most would have been born here and not all will be unemployed. Besides why deport people because of their race (that's racism), I don't hear calls for people to be sent back to their 'violent' Scottish clan or calls about wild 'Irishmen' with fiery Irish tempers who get drunk and start fights in pubs (now there's a stereotype) to be deported when they've lived here for generations.

This is a complicated issue and the cops obviously aren't sophisticated enough to deal with these complex communities. They always seem to turn out in force once it's out of hand. I feel for locals like Brer who are affected- you shouldn't be treated like that but for vigilantes to take things into their own hands is not on, that's what the authorities are there for, hold them to account, not every member of an ethnic group. But I do agree that prosecutions must go ahead with full force against offenders.

I sympathise with Smurf about lazy cops, some work real hard but others do everything they can to be unprofessional shirkers. I advise you to complain to the Police ombudsman or equivalent in writing, at least then those lazy cops will have to do some of their odious 'paperwork' to respond to the investigation.

Also, in Australia we prefer very much not to kill people, in the US many innocent people are executed, Australia may appear to be like the US in some ways but in many ways we are different, that's one thing we're proud of and one reason why so many people from diverse backgrounds are proud to call it 'home'. We also attempt to take better care of our minorities, although our treatment of some minorities (eg Aboriginal people) is disgraceful- a lot of work to be done there.

Just my thoughts, let's approach these complex issue with due regard for underlying issues. Fighting violence with violence is not productive- look at Iraq and other countries where might is favoured over peaceful avenues.

btw, websman, how did they report it there? What perspective did they take?
 
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I don't have too much more to say about this other than today, for the first time I can recall, I'm embarrased to be an Aussie.

Australia has long been a place where it didn't matter who you were, as long as you were a good bloke or a good sheila, everyone got along fine. It seems that's changing.
 
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What we need is a concurrence of who we let into this land.
Wake up people!
Tell your pollies what you want, they work for you!
Same as the police (remember they have the hard job).

Immigrants that do not wish to become Aussies - don't come here.
 
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I'm in total support of the group(but not the violence). I'm sick of those lebs that roll around in their cars, playing loud music and causing trouble. I've been hassled a number of times by these ethnics youths. I've done nothing to them, they just want to cause trouble.

They have no manners, their attitude blows and they are intimidating.

I'm not racist. I have a few ethnic friends but I hate the ones think it's cool to cause trouble. I think it's great to see people finally standing up because I know I'm sick of it.
 
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So many of these comments sum it up so well.

"ashamed to be an Aussie"

Sad isnt it.


The sad part is that it has had to come to this, everybody has a breaking point and a point at which they join the "mob" and seek revenge.

The problem is that Mobs don't think they just do.

Smurf, Women at self defence course's are told to yell "FIRE" when being attacked and not "help" as people will come for a fire but not to help someone (fear of getting harmed themselves).

I was also told once that if I ever "needed" the police to call them and say that I have just shot someone who was trying to break into my house, aparently it gets a really good response. (until they get there and find you havent).

Bear in mind that police are often not the source of the problem and are sick of all the red tape crap just as much as us. I cant imagine pouring yur heart and soul into a case just to see a thief get off on light penalties yet alone a rapist or the likes.

When will society wake up and demand tougher penalties - probally not until a new "form" of government is elected.
 
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It's not racism - it's a case of self-preservation. :2twocents
 
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RichKid said:
Also, in Australia we prefer very much not to kill people, in the US many innocent people are executed, Australia may appear to be like the US in some ways but in many ways we are different, that's one thing we're proud of and one reason why so many people from diverse backgrounds are proud to call it 'home'. We also attempt to take better care of our minorities, although our treatment of some minorities (eg Aboriginal people) is disgraceful- a lot of work to be done there.

Just my thoughts, let's approach these complex issue with due regard for underlying issues. Fighting violence with violence is not productive- look at Iraq and other countries where might is favoured over peaceful avenues.

btw, websman, how did they report it there? What perspective did they take?
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Without trying to stir up a hornets nest, let me say that I am strongly for execution. Of course what's good for us Americans, may not work for Australia. I don't consider myself to be violent, but sometimes you have to curb violence with justified force.

It was reported on CNN. As far as a slant, I didn't see any of that. just a report.
 
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sam76 said:
It's not racism - it's a case of self-preservation. :2twocents
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Racism is being used as a protective shield by those who instigate these acts of "terror".
Make no mistake this intimidation has been bought about by those who are now screaming racism. I agree with Sam.

If this isnt insighting Terror what is??
Where are the new laws now?
And people wonder why we defend ourselves----we have rights as well---seems this is overlooked in the name of Racism---HEY we are a race as well!!----Infact at times being an Aussi feels ethnic in my own country!

The core needs to be taken out of this bad apple now!
The world is watching---both friend and foe.
 
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websman said:
Without trying to stir up a hornets nest, let me say that I am strongly for execution. Of course what's good for us Americans, may not work for Australia. I don't consider myself to be violent, but sometimes you have to curb violence with justified force.

It was reported on CNN. As far as a slant, I didn't see any of that. just a report.
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What I was stating here was my personal opinion and nothing more.

I hope and pray that the violence ends.
 
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i think its important to realise that if the laws are a lot stronger... then the trouble makers will go behind bars, and have less of a chance of causing more trouble, and tarnishing the name of the whole community they are from...

this goes for both the lebanese and the australians involved in the riots on sunday.

it all comes down to the failure of successive govt's and the whole softly softly approach to crime prevention, raising kids, etc

all they succeed in doing is ligitamising taking the law into their own hands, and ligitamising extremist groups (be it neo Nazi's or Al Qaeda terrorist groups)

(see this article in The Australian)
David King
December 13, 2005
EXTREMIST groups accused of links to neo-Nazis have admitted mobilising more than 100 people to attend the riots in Cronulla.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,17549652%5E601,00.html

Jim Saleam, the NSW secretary of ultra-nationalist group Australia First, said his members had recruited up to 120 people for the rally but denied they were involved in violence.

NSW Police Minister Carl Scully confirmed that extremists had taken part in the riots.

Skinheads wearing boots, braces and neo-Nazi emblems were among the mob of 5000. Three far-right organisations -- Australia First, The Patriotic Youth League and the Newcastle-based Blood and Honour -- handed out racist pamphlets. All three are considered to have neo-Nazi links.

Anti-race hate campaigner Matt Henderson-Hau, who runs the Fightdemback.org website, said he had information that only one of the skinheads at the rally came from within the Sutherland Shire.
"The rest came from the Central Coast, Newcastle and other parts of Sydney," he said.

Patriotic Youth League spokesman Luke Connors confirmed that his group attended the riot and had handed out anti-migration literature.
"There was only a few people there, mostly girls with their boyfriends, handing out a few leaflets with 'Aussies fighting back' on them," he said.
"It wasn't a full-on operation, we didn't plan a full-on operation. Australia First did, not us."

Mr Henderson-Hau said neo-Nazis had manipulated the crowd at Cronulla.
"If you remove the Nazis from the equation, you will go a long way to dousing the flames and hopefully some cool heads will emerge on both sides," said Mr Henderson-Hau.
 
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tech/a said:
Racism is being used as a protective shield by those who instigate these acts of "terror".
Make no mistake this intimidation has been bought about by those who are now screaming racism. I agree with Sam.

If this isnt insighting Terror what is??
Where are the new laws now?
And people wonder why we defend ourselves----we have rights as well---seems this is overlooked in the name of Racism---HEY we are a race as well!!----Infact at times being an Aussi feels ethnic in my own country!

The core needs to be taken out of this bad apple now!
The world is watching---both friend and foe.
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Spot on Tech !!
 
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Did anyone watch ACA tonight?? Young Lebs who roll around in cars who are itching to intimidate and cause conflict. They have no respect for this country even though they enjoy living here. It's easy to judge people of Sydney as raciest and discraseful but when you have to put up with these groups often and you see on the news these gangs causing assults, gang rapes, stabbings and shootings you will feel animosity towards them.

Finally the roits has put enough focus on the issue to make a change.

I'd love to see these trouble makes deported or something. I know not all lebanese are bad but their own community must bear the majority of the responsiblity for their youths actions and teach them that if they want to live in our country they must respect our laws.
 
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i am one very pissed off person after this riot thingy!

get these trouble makers (the chiefs), give them a public flogging, embarass them in the following day's national papers by having their photos on the front page!

to those 'lebanese & wogs' (no racist pun intended)- you are a bloody disgrace to all immigrants. brainless ********!

to those 'aussies' involved- you are a total disgrace to the country!
 
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