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catman said:
Hi Paul,

Have been following your astrostuff alerts and I find it quite facinating as I am purely a MA/trend based trader. If you would be so kind, could you kindly provide me with an astro stuff analysis on BLY if you have a moment?

Many thanks and regards,

DC :)
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BLY ..... done, Catman ..... :)

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Trader Paul said:
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Hi folks,

Just by way of further example, here's some current results of trades
entered in this month's trading comp, on another forum ..... including
my transactions completed, over the past couple of weeks ..... :)

..... and there's no reason, why this cannot be done in real-time,
with real money ... !~!

have a great day

paul

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Hi folks,

..... please don't take this post seriously ..... it is a total fabrication
and a joke directed at all the would-be trading gurus ... :)

have a great day

paul

:)

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Sicilian Trader said:
i don't believe it was a joke TP, it was a genuine post on your part... !~!
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..... believe what you will, ST ... it certainly sucked the hornets back in,
on that thread ..... and it doesn't take Einstein to see the bits,
that were fabricated ... lol ... :)

have a great day

paul

:)

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Trader Paul said:
..... believe what you will, ST ... it certainly sucked the hornets back in,
on that thread ..... and it doesn't take Einstein to see the bits,
that were fabricated ... lol ... :)

have a great day

paul

:)

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Hell Paul

Your feeble attempts at saving face are as transparent as your "Trading".
 
Trader Paul said:
:)

Hi folks,

..... please don't take this post seriously ..... it is a total fabrication
and a joke directed at all the would-be trading gurus ... :)

have a great day

paul

:)

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Trader Paul said:
..... believe what you will, ST ... it certainly sucked the hornets back in,
on that thread ..... and it doesn't take Einstein to see the bits,
that were fabricated ... lol ... :)

have a great day

paul

:)

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Trader Paul said:
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..... you really don't get it, do you tech ... ???

Winding you guys up IS good sport ... !~! ... :)

have a great day

paul

:)

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This is just getting excruciatingly embarrassing now :horse:
 
Trader Paul said:
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..... you really don't get it, do you tech ... ???

Winding you guys up IS good sport ... !~! ... :)

have a great day

paul

:)

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I have to say Trader Paul but I think you're nothing but hot air.

I know Magdoran and I respect his work in Gann trading, he used it to trade full time. I have also studied and use Bill Mclarens pattern of trend.

I dont think to much of what you do for one main reason. You don't trade a live account you can't claim to be a trader if you don't trade real money.

All demo is really is hindsight live. I know this cuz emotions are and have been the hardest thing to concur in my trading.

you claim your Gann trading works but u trade sim comps. Let me tell you any one can make money on a demo account loaded up to the max.

you want proof look at my IG demo account statement attached.

The demo malfunctioned and it allowed me to take as many positions as I wanted to. I hear u say o that's the only way you could do that, yeh but i still had to get it right or I would be -156 billion.

so Paul give up on this if you cant actually prove your trading skills live. I test systems now on small live accounts. Demos are nothing but gambling relief when I feel like a wild punt.

Go live and see what it feels like to have an idea and have to back your yourself when the market tests your convictions!

Good luck to u.
 

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Trader Paul said:
..... believe what you will, ST ... it certainly sucked the hornets back in,
on that thread ..... and it doesn't take Einstein to see the bits,
that were fabricated ... lol ... :)

have a great day

paul

:)

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Mate, aren't you embarrassed? Your emails are cringe worthy.

I would hate to think about the people you have bled financially dry on the back of your fictitious trading.

Your life and your trading is one big lie. For that, I am sorry.
 
Trader Paul

I am new to this forum and impressed. I moved from the competition forum because of all the ramping and hype.

I scrolled through quickly and, to date, have been impressed with your work and Magdoran.

Just for your opinion. I notice that you commented on KEY. I had a good look at it and found that it seems to sit well against the square of nine. The number 81 appears to feature heavily. For example,

Natal 26/4/2007

14/3/2008 Low price of 6.6 cents (318 days after day 1 - 81*4=324)

5/6/2008 High price of 50 cents, 81 days after the low of 14/3/2008

3/2/2009 Low of 5.7, 238 days (81*3=243) after the high of 5/6/2008

NOW 23/4/2009 (~2 years after Natal) 320 days after the high (Similar timeframe to the earlier date of 14/3/2008) Also 82 days after the low on 3/2/2009.

From my work it appears that next friday could be a low from where it will kick. I would be interested in your valuable opinion on KEY.

Thank you in advance and if you are too busy that is ok and I must say that I appreciate your work.
 
Apollo_kk said:
...I would be interested in your valuable opinion on KEY.

Thank you in advance and if you are too busy that is ok and I must say that I appreciate your work....
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You have got to be kidding me...!~!

This is your 12th identity praising yourself. Do you honestly think that you can pull the wool over peoples eyes TP??

Apollo_kk, your first post hey. And what a coincidence, that you come to TP's aid, right about when things start heating up.

Not a coincidence at all, just sad mate. Sad.

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Mod's : surely he is not allowed to do that? His multiple personalities is becoming a joke and he is singlehandedly putting people off trading and gann. A time waster.


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Sicilian Trader

This is genuine. This is my first day here. Please keep me out of your argument. I am not here to defend or challenge anyone.
 
Not a coincidence at all, just sad mate. Sad.
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It really is sad.
They ALL do it.
Must be a Gann thing.
Either that or they are all one person.
Maybe its McLaren or Bowden spamming away to their hearts content.

Anyway I'm going to get to the bottom of this and go see a clairvoyant.
Cant wait to find out the truth.
Simply rivveting.
 
Tech/a

I am not entering into an argument. All to their own. I was a member of Hotcopper (under a different id) and I was tired of the ramping and muck that was thrown around.

Whatever your issue is I am not interested in it. I have quickly skimmed through the posts and as I said there were two that I found interesting and fit my view of trading.

I hope that you make a million.
 
Apollo_kk said:
Tech/a

I am not entering into an argument. All to their own. I was a member of Hotcopper (under a different id) and I was tired of the ramping and muck that was thrown around.

Whatever your issue is I am not interested in it. I have quickly skimmed through the posts and as I said there were two that I found interesting and fit my view of trading.

I hope that you make a million.
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TP, you forgot to untick the icon box for your post heading. Smiley face = TP.

On a serious note, can I suggest taking some time off the forum and seeing someone professionally. There are too many of your now and we cant keep up.

This forum is supposed to be about trading and how we can all learn but instead its turned into something , well, ridiculous.

Just stop mate
 
I suspect that we are starting to see some more appearing that have gone down this path, mostly left with nothing but the theory :rolleyes:



One course is just a teaser for another course

Bait and switch is a common scam on the guru circuit. You sign up for a course that you were led to believe will teach you the true secrets of wealth accumulation only to find that it is a rather expensive appetiser for the next course.

National Investment Institute does that, the $16,000 course is a way of warming people up to buy the $60,000 course.

Another good example of a bait and switch is David Bowden's Safety In The Market package. If you ask for info on it you'll be sent a package that goes on and on and on about Bowden's prowess at calling market turning points using Gann methods. (Although much of it is exaggerated and doesn't mention his lack of success since the mid 1980s.)

So if you want to write out a check to David Bowden for $995 (last time I checked, quite a while ago, that was what SITM cost), you might expect that you'd receive something talking about forecasting. Instead, you get what I am told (by people that bought it) is a rather slim package, bulked up with tapes and posters and such of course, that teaches how to create a Gann "swing chart", as well as some really basic stuff about stop loss orders etc. There is no forecasting taught in this course at all, though you are led to believe that the follow up course has it.

No, I'm told the follow up course doesn't have any forecasting either, though it expands a bit more on refining those swing charts and choosing entry and exit points. For those that are taken in you can pay hundreds of dollars to listen in to a Bowden conference call, multi-thousands to attend "trading incubators".

Now of course all education is a bit like that, you don't learn the good stuff right in the first lecture of the first course. What is different about universities and dodgy gurus is that universities don't give you the impression that Economics 101 will make you an expert, there is a clear progression of units with a defined curriculum where more and more complex information is built up over several years, and that post-graduate studies can follow that to enable to you become even more specialised and expert in your chosen field.

A dodgy bait and switch guru sends out promotional material advertising skills that they know are not taught in the basic course, but they'll imply quite strongly that course you are buying for $1,000 is all you need to become a millionaire. If they were straight up in the first place and disclosed that the cost to complete their course was actually a few hundred thousand dollars then far fewer would pay the $1,000 to start with.

One reason why gurus charge like this is because people fall prey to the "sunk cost fallacy". The sunk cost fallacy is where a person feels they need to spend more money so the money they already spent is not wasted. Forking out $5,000 to pay for the second course is frequently done because people didn't want to think the $1,000 they spent on the first course would go to waste.

I'd rather see folks doubt what's true than accept what isn't. - Frank A. Clark
 
Sicilian Trader

I feel that there is no need to try to convince you because your mind is set. So be it.

I have no idea what your grip is but keep me out of your pettiness.

Trader Paul or yogi this is a genuine request so please ignore the others.

Thank you in advance.
 
Apollo_kk said:
Sicilian Trader

I feel that there is no need to try to convince you because your mind is set. So be it.

I have no idea what your grip is but keep me out of your pettiness.

Trader Paul or yogi this is a genuine request so please ignore the others.

Thank you in advance.
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Amazing how from your first post you were able to deduce that yogi and Trader Paul were the same person.

Apollo, if you infact are not TP, then its a slight concern that you find TP impressive. Especially after such a limited time on this forum.

There are much more impressive people to follow on these forums, with transparent methodologies, and these people actually trade - for real. I know, its hard to believe.

Funny how when you are around, TP all of a sudden vanishes
 
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