Astrostuff ... Gann from a different angle ...
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8th June NAB . Most likely scenario is an intermediate high into this date if trend continues up although I am also looking at the possibility of a counter trend low into this date . Time is the central componet and I will be guided by the prevailing structure of the mkt .
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excuse me for jumping on the tail end of this thread, but gazelle, i noticed you also posted on the hotly debated gann thread.
so in the spirit of gann, and maybe a little in the spirit of education, can you give me an idea of how you trade that date , June 8th?
I would also very interested to know how you woulld trade the following :
july 2nd - likely to be strong day
July 7 - 9, or 11 - some weakening in the later part of day
july 17 - good news?? possibly loser credit to large corporates
July 19 - weak rally over
July 21 - key turning point likely
July 23 - 27- bad news for the spi and weak dow
I see the above example so often and i am at less as to how one could trade, there are so many 'what ifs' and likely scenarious
Whilst I havent got the depth of knowledge you yourself have gazalle I would be very interested to learn such a trading strategy as i do find aspects of ganns work quick fascinating. I also appreciate there is a lot of work involved in tis analysis involved so cant be effectively relayed over a couple of forum posts.
I will take this into consideration for when you (if you are inclined to) explain the trade you could take in this hypothetical example? Or at the very least, give it to me conceptually.
do you get further confirmation closer to the and just keep revising you forecasts to do you take a position now and then hedge through various option strategy
looking forward to a replyY
Thanks
ST
June 8th comes out as a significant timing point . At this point in time I cant qualify whether the market will high or low into this date . Price could very well move right through this date and not provide me with any setup at all . Thats why I have some possible scenarios planned in advance , that way a day or so before the nominated time I can look at things like range expansions , if the market is moving towards say a 50% zone . there are a range of technical aspects that might come into alignment -/+ 1 day . often a range will square out on the same day a particular cycle expires so basically you just make yourself available to the market on that date and try and read the prevailing structure against other factors . If the mkt is showing signs of exhausting into a high you might also look at range projections angles etc but those things arent really the central componet , they are measuring gauges . How to trade the date . As I am not sure whether it will turn out to be a cntr trend high or cntr trend low the most suitable strategy for me is too wait for the date to swing around and then I can scale down to 30 60 min charts looking for smaller geometric alignments to line up with the dominant cycle and then if there is some good volatility and momentum into the date I will start scaling in . if things dont setup as expected I will pass the trade up and look elsewhere . I use paper chrts mainly although intraday tick data can optimize your entry and exit lvls in conjunction with eod .
tech/a
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Perfect example.
2 options.
So how do you trade this.
Take both the short and long position?
OR
Come the 8th of June you have an entry which will be either LONG if it does trade lower into the 8th
or Short if it trades higher into the 8th.
Until then wait?
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Hi Gazelle,
COH ..... some astroanalysis to the end of June 2009 .....
Was expecting some minor news earlier this week, but
it hasn't surfaced, as yet.
28-29042009 ..... minor and positive light on COH
04052009 ..... significant and positive cycle
11-12052009 ..... positive time cycle ... finance-related ???
2905-01062009 ..... minor and positive cycle, here.
12-16062009 ..... 2 minor time cycles come together - finances?
19-22062009 ..... minor and positive news expected here
29-30062009 ..... negative spotlight on COH
have a great day
paul
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I take it that if you were to buy into COH today---currently $50.60
Then youd be long right up to 29/30 June according to your analysis.With around the 4th May being a time to load up some more perhaps.
Will have another look on 30th june.
Then youd be long right up to 29/30 June according to your analysis.With around the 4th May being a time to load up some more perhaps.
Will have another look on 30th june.
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Hi Gazelle,
COH ..... some astroanalysis to the end of June 2009 .....
Was expecting some minor news earlier this week, but
it hasn't surfaced, as yet.
28-29042009 ..... minor and positive light on COH
04052009 ..... significant and positive cycle
11-12052009 ..... positive time cycle ... finance-related ???
2905-01062009 ..... minor and positive cycle, here.
12-16062009 ..... 2 minor time cycles come together - finances?
19-22062009 ..... minor and positive news expected here
29-30062009 ..... negative spotlight on COH
have a great day
paul
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Correcting you, because you ARE wrong ..... can't see anywhere, where it says load
up today ..... and like always, how it is traded depends upon your own trading time
frame ... ie ..... day trader, short-term EOD trader or investor.
On this end, more likely looking at an entry around 2704200, if other
TA confirms our astroanalysis ..... simple stuff, really !~!
tech/a
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Ok
Then from the analysis given I have 6 positive cycles.
One strongly negative being the last.
Why then if a End of day trader would it not be wise to buy and hold long from today through these 6 positive cycles and then sell at the strongly negative one?
It certainly seems that the analysis is telling me this stock is likely to be "positive".
Happy to be corrected again.
Then from the analysis given I have 6 positive cycles.
One strongly negative being the last.
Why then if a End of day trader would it not be wise to buy and hold long from today through these 6 positive cycles and then sell at the strongly negative one?
It certainly seems that the analysis is telling me this stock is likely to be "positive".
Happy to be corrected again.
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Paul, what would normally be the impact of these occurrences and how would you trade them (do you/will you trade them)...
Is there an overall pattern that you expect this stock to follow based on these expectations and past experience of these situations.
I think what people are trying to elicit from you guys is a previous example of how this or similiar situation may have been traded in the past or how any one of you guys might hope to trade this in the future... not a big ask really.
I have three different methods that work in different ways for different trading conditions (just simple breakouts are working this month, if we get a correction in the next week or so I may be trading Wave 3's off ABC corrections next month), I am open to new methods and ideas.
Cheers
Would take half of your intended quantity at this point ?TraderPaul said:
Do you top up your order at this point or is this confirmation that your initial entry was correct.
A chance to buy more or/and an opportunity to move the stop up to breakeven ?
Trend continuation, trail the stop at a safe distance ?
Hedge long position or close long position and go short or just tighten stops and wait ?
Is there an overall pattern that you expect this stock to follow based on these expectations and past experience of these situations.
I think what people are trying to elicit from you guys is a previous example of how this or similiar situation may have been traded in the past or how any one of you guys might hope to trade this in the future... not a big ask really.
I have three different methods that work in different ways for different trading conditions (just simple breakouts are working this month, if we get a correction in the next week or so I may be trading Wave 3's off ABC corrections next month), I am open to new methods and ideas.
Cheers
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Hi Gazelle,
COH ..... some astroanalysis to the end of June 2009 .....
Was expecting some minor news earlier this week, but
it hasn't surfaced, as yet.
28-29042009 ..... minor and positive light on COH
04052009 ..... significant and positive cycle
11-12052009 ..... positive time cycle ... finance-related ???
2905-01062009 ..... minor and positive cycle, here.
12-16062009 ..... 2 minor time cycles come together - finances?
19-22062009 ..... minor and positive news expected here
29-30062009 ..... negative spotlight on COH
have a great day
paul
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Hi folks,
..... as per above post, the astroanalysis on COH was posted in response
to a direct question from Gazelle (see above) and i have NO intention
of trading COH, in the immediate future.
What is astroanalysis ... ???
Astroanalysis is only ONE tool, that Gann revealed to us. Primarily, it
analyses the TIME axis and as such, it may be used to analyse TIME,
both in the past and the future.
Astroanalysis gives us a guide, as to WHEN events may occur ... events,
that MAY trigger an action/reaction in price for an individual market.
Astroanalysis is used purely to confirm regular TA, which primarily has its
focus on the PRICE axis ... by nature, TA is backward-looking, as it relies
on price data for its existence.
Astroanalysis requires no price data to evaluate an individual market,
so it is a truly independent tool for technical traders.
Astroanalysis is NOT a stand-alone trading tool, but it may be used
to gain more valuable information, available in ANY chart.
Astroanalysis may also be used as a guide, when to stand aside from
a market, rather than stay invested in a stock and live on HOPE ... hope,
that can sometimes take years to come to fruition. Meanwhile, by
standing aside, we can employ our funds in stocks, that have a more
positive out look.
Astroanalysis may also be used to confirm fundamentals, as it is
NOT RELIANT on price data to complete the analysis.
Astroanalysis may be used to evaluate a stock's past reaction to
regular time cycles and it may also be used to identify periods of
STRENGTH and WEAKNESS in any stock, YEARS in advance.
eg ... COH is expected to be booming in March 2011, particularly around
02-07032011, ahead of significant news expected on 14032011 and
a positive spotlight on COH, on 29-30032011 ..... !~!
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That is one strategy ..... again, everyone will trade COH differently,
according to their COMPLETE analysis, on the stock.
For daytraders and scalpers ... another may be to anticipate/watch
for company news around the time, that the next positive cycle
is due to come into play.
Another strategy for short-term traders may be to watch the price
action a few days before the next positive time cycle is due, as
quite often the price will fall, just a head of the next positive cycle.
Similarly, the price will often rally to a high, just before a negative
time cycle slots into place ..... offering an opportunity to exit the
trade and take profits.
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..... as per above post, the astroanalysis on COH was posted in response
to a direct question from Gazelle (see above) and i have NO intention
of trading COH, in the immediate future.
..... as far a managing the trade, the strategies are endless, so it it comes
back to your own preferences.
On stops ..... we can also use a time stop, as well as a price stop ..... !~!
You can read more about time stops and other trading-related stuff,
in the pdf file, attached below .....
Astroanalysis on COH, as posted above, is a good example of how positive
(and negative) time cycles will often arrive in clusters or grouped together.
So, when a cluster of negative cycles comes around it is often a good
opportunity to stand aside (which is a position in any market). Standing
aside, also gives us the opportunity to use the funds in a more productive
market, rather than living on HOPE and SPECULATION.
Hope and speculation is often used to justify a trader's reasons for having
money tied up in a dead stock, rather than having the discipline to take a
loss and move on with the next trade.
have a great weekend
paul
Hi Paul,
Have been following your astrostuff alerts and I find it quite facinating as I am purely a MA/trend based trader. If you would be so kind, could you kindly provide me with an astro stuff analysis on BLY if you have a moment?
Many thanks and regards,
DC
Have been following your astrostuff alerts and I find it quite facinating as I am purely a MA/trend based trader. If you would be so kind, could you kindly provide me with an astro stuff analysis on BLY if you have a moment?
Many thanks and regards,
DC
Do you think a market expectation that COH will do the bionic eye/partner it, to be announced in federal budget on 14 May, will tie in with your forecast? From 4th May -> Impulse wave. Serious $$$ and volume is flowing into biotech & tech without any corresponding analyst coverage. (Not just talking PRR)
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Hi Paul,
Have been following your astrostuff alerts and I find it quite facinating as I am purely a MA/trend based trader. If you would be so kind, could you kindly provide me with an astro stuff analysis on BLY if you have a moment?
Many thanks and regards,
DC
Will do, Catman ..... just keep an eye on the BLY thread .....
have a great day
paul
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Will do, Catman ..... just keep an eye on the BLY thread .....
have a great day
paul
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why are there 2 trader pauls?
Will do, Catman ..... just keep an eye on the BLY thread .....
have a great day
paul
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Many thanks Paul.
All the best to you also.
regards,
DC
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Hi Gazelle,
COH ..... some astroanalysis to the end of June 2009 .....
Was expecting some minor news earlier this week, but
it hasn't surfaced, as yet.
28-29042009 ..... minor and positive light on COH
04052009 ..... significant and positive cycle
11-12052009 ..... positive time cycle ... finance-related ???
2905-01062009 ..... minor and positive cycle, here.
12-16062009 ..... 2 minor time cycles come together - finances?
19-22062009 ..... minor and positive news expected here
29-30062009 ..... negative spotlight on COH
have a great day
paul
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On this end, more likely looking at an entry around 2704200, if other
TA confirms our astroanalysis ..... simple stuff, really !~!
Hi folks,
For daytraders and scalpers ... another may be to anticipate/watch
for company news around the time, that the next positive cycle
is due to come into play.
Another strategy for short-term traders may be to watch the price
action a few days before the next positive time cycle is due, as
quite often the price will fall, just a head of the next positive cycle.
Similarly, the price will often rally to a high, just before a negative
time cycle slots into place ..... offering an opportunity to exit the
trade and take profits.
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Hi folks,
..... as per posts above and chart below.
Time cycles tell us to expect a minor and positive cycle, on 28-29042009.
Regular TA gave us two high volume days and a gravestone doji, yesterday
to confirm a double v-bottom, with March 2009 lows and a double-bottom,
with last Friday's low, as well.
An entry, at the close on 27042009 (as per post above) would have
benefited from the gap-up, at the open today .....
..... so, there was a low-risk entry entry into COH ..... and all planned
10 days ago, without any fuss or wave-counting necessary ... !~!
And a good lift of more than $1.oo today, triggered by a minor and
positive time cycle .....
have a great day
paul
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tech/a
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One thing I will give Paul is that at least he gives out his calls and admits he intergrates conventional analysis with his Gann.
All to see whether proven correct or not.
All to see whether proven correct or not.
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It's nice to see some expanded analysis, not just; '2 positive cycles', bad news expected', 'death certain', etc.
Must admit, I hadn't been following this thread the past few months because after a couple of years I had learnt that what was being presented was worthless.
This is better.
Must admit, I hadn't been following this thread the past few months because after a couple of years I had learnt that what was being presented was worthless.
This is better.
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Hi folks,
Just by way of further example, here's some current results of trades
entered in this month's trading comp, on another forum ..... including
my transactions completed, over the past couple of weeks .....
..... and there's no reason, why this cannot be done in real-time,
with real money ... !~!
have a great day
paul
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