CanOz said:Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
I just had a curry,
and i'm not feelin so gooooood!
new girl said:why, is it because i'm not available? or because 2020 turned out to be such a hotti
CanOz said:No, because i actually just had a curry! And because my GF is in Beijng and i'm here all alone!
Oh, because a lot of ancient greek texts were translated into Arabic, during the rise of the Islamic empire. Some of the originals have been lost, some recovered, but scholars have to use a combination of the two to translate it.new girl said:Excuse my ignorance chops, but what's Arabic to English got to do with Greek? please explain, she's back in politics
Chops I wonder how "coupla dayz - beUUUDIful" translates into Arabic ?chops_a_must said:Oh, because a lot of ancient greek texts were translated into Arabic, during the rise of the Islamic empire.
2020hindsight said:Chops I wonder how "coupla dayz - beUUUDIful" translates into Arabic ?
Yeah, it takes 5-6 years to learn Arabic fluently doesn't it? Seriously difficult.new girl said:إختاري, which is pronounced beuuhottiful!
ps of course it gets much more complicated if you go through the greek to arabic to english to greek again, but that would be your next lesson. we'll keep it simple for now, i don't think you can handle the complicated stuff yet.
chops_a_must said:Yeah, it takes 5-6 years to learn Arabic fluently doesn't it? Seriously difficult.
Mental Cases
skulls' wicked?
pain,- panic,
sockets?
Misery perished
hell;
Dead
murders,
Multitudinous murders
blood from lungs
guns
Carnage
eyeballs shrink tormented
blood-smear; blood-black;
wound that bleeds
Awful falseness of set-smiling corpses.
war and madness.
I just like war poetry.new girl said:CHOPS
WHAT'S WRONG?
I don't mean to be rude, I just don't get this poetry, it kinda makes sad and stresses me out a bit. I know it reflects some of what's going on in this world, but I challenge you to post something sweet or romantic for a change!
ps take one: I agree, Arabic is one of the most difficult languages to learn, have you ever tried to learn it?
ps take two: sorry I'm just in a very happy mood, sorry to pick on your poetry.
The challenge is still up, happy poetry is good for the SOUL, you should try itchops_a_must said:I just like war poetry.
No, but an old drinking partner of mine, who was in the SAS as a technician, got a long term injury, so they trained him up as an Arabic speaking specialist. Even though he learnt it in about 6 months, apparently it takes like 6 years or something most of the time. He just told me a lot about it, that is all.
I listen to twee music for that. Lol!new girl said:The challenge is still up, happy poetry is good for the SOUL, you should try it
ps again: I'm just in a very happy mood
Ahh found it .. the following quotes from Tony Harrisons "the shadow of Hiroshima",2020hindsight said:Folks, I was wondering if anyone out there had a copy of a poem "SHADOW SAN" , possibly "SHADOW-SAN" etc.
Theme is not dissimilar to the shadow girl in this video. But there are also references to fights between doves of peace etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIfrqdru1B8 the shadow girl ( o boy)
Such a modern concept - and such a terrifying one - the only thing left of a person is their shadow
"cheating the void" started with Lumiere's famous film of factory workers leaving their workplace:
"these people are all dead, and yet they walk,
the first in fact to move on celluloid
yet they are silent and wont ever talk
their very movements seems to cheat the void"
The Shadow of Hiroshama also starts with a shadow, though this time not a celluloid one, but the burnt outline of a man whose body has been photographed, not by celluloid, but by stone.He is one of many thousands killed by the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima in 1945, and harrison gives him a voice ... in a film / poem of great emotional intensity. ... Shadow-san becomes our guide, and his story is interwoven into the build-up for the annual ceremony of releasing "the doves" that takes place beneath the Peace Dome in the city. (he follows them, the lucky ones not savaged by the Hirshama hawks, home again).
SHADOW SAN (, The Shadows of Hiroshima, Tony Harrison)
"This voice comes from the shadow cast
by Hiroshima's A-bomb blast.
The sound you hear inside this case
is of a man who fans the face
he used to have before the flash
turned face and body intoash.
I am the nameless fanning man
you may address as Shadow San.
The inferno flayed me as I fanned
gold fan with cranes on in my hand.
In that fierce force but one degree
of quicker combustibility
separated fan and me,
but that one degree meant that the man
was stamped on stone but not the fan.
My shadow's fading and I fear
I may not make centenary year,
and so before I finally fade
give one last outing to this shade,
and you will be my eyes to see
this fiftieth anniversary."
.......
Mitsufuji San's alarm
that his doves may come to harm
makes him run past A-bomb dome
to catch a tram to take them home
across the bridge they call Aioi,
the bomb-aimer of "Little Boy"
high up in the Enola Gay
fifty years ago today
took focus from where now we see,
walking the upright of the T,
two survivors' shadows but
shadows still still fixed foot to foot,
two survivors here to find
the special seats they've been assigned
to hear speeches, pray, and see
precisely at 8.23
all the doves in the release
making their winged plea for peace.
.......
The peace doves have been freed , but why
won't this last shaking straggler fly?
Perhaps he's seen what's in the sky?
Where peace-doves are, the birds of prey
are never very far away,
These hawks cruising the skies
don't care what peace-doves symbolise,
These emblems are mere morsels, meat,
their ripped-out innards good to eat,
Since yesterday the hawks have waited
to see their lunches liberated.
Hiroshima hawks are glad to glut
and gorge themselves on peace-dove gut.
It's not inappropriate , birds of prey
are also present on Peace Day.
They could well stand for Japanese
who forced other Asians to their knees,
They stand for the spirit of the past
that moved Japan before the blast,
the old Japan that took Nanking
under its dark, blood-splattered wing,
Japan in her aggressive guise
taking Pearl Harbour by surprise,
the prison camps that made us pray
for any means to bring VJ.
Many doves freed on this day
fall victims to these birds of prey
and Mitsufuji fears his may.
...
those symbolic doves that flew
in '91 or '92
in '93 or 4 survive
by fighting these from '95....
Pidgeon / Peace doves brawl and fight.
Is the world at peace tonight?
Or are we like the Shadow San
facing inferno with a fan?
chops_a_must said:As requested by Nude Girl, love poetry:
Roses are red, violets are blue
All of my base
Are belong to you.
Roses are red, violets are blue
In Soviet Russia
Crabs catch you.
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