ASF 'How do I do it?' thread

[So_Cynical]

I seem to remember a while ago i suggested merging all the politic threads into 1 super thread...ala the real estate thread.

 

[Joe Blow]

Hi Joe,

I admit I'm as guilty as any of the "spurious" posters for adding far too little to stock-specific threads. Part of my "frustration" comes from the lack of responses. Case in point: Yesterday, I added the first comment to EWC in over a year. Within an hour, it got one reply - and then nothing since. Most likely because it had dropped off the first page of "New Posts" and nobody noticed. Mind you, I'm not saying that my analysis is the bee's knees and merits a reaction. My point is, I am more likely to add to a thread when I can see active interest in the topic. It gets boring when I find I'm talking to myself, or am one of less than a handful interested in talk about a share.

Looking at the link behind "New Posts", it calls a search.php, presumably resulting in an SQL command over the entire Forum. It would seem very likely that a parameter already exists that allows you (i.e. the Administrator or "Configurator" of the system) to specify the Forum.

Hi Pixel, I understand your frustration at the lack of response to your post on EWC. Other posters have expressed similar frustration in the past. However, I can guarantee you that others are reading your posts, though many may not have something else to add. A lack of response probably means that most may not be familiar enough with the company to make an educated comment.

I can assure you that your posts in stock threads are appreciated and I hope that you continue to share you thoughts and analysis. I follow your posts and feel that you add a lot of value to the threads you post in.

It may indeed be possible to exclude the General Chat forum threads from the "New Posts" results. I will look into it further and hopefully come up with a solution. Leaving the General Chat threads out of the "New Posts" search results may be a compromise that will satisfy both camps. Leave it with me.

 

[Joe Blow]

I seem to remember a while ago i suggested merging all the politic threads into 1 super thread...ala the real estate thread.

I think having one huge political super thread would be too frustrating for those ASF members who do post in political threads, as it would be like having dozens of different conversations at the same time. It would be the forum equivalent of people constantly talking over each other.

However, that being said, I think we have enough political threads now and it is time for a moratorium on new ones.

 

[Joe Blow]

Looking at the link behind "New Posts", it calls a search.php, presumably resulting in an SQL command over the entire Forum. It would seem very likely that a parameter already exists that allows you (i.e. the Administrator or "Configurator" of the system) to specify the Forum.

Pixel, you were right. It was an easy modification to make. I have removed the "General Chat" threads from the "New Posts" search results on a trial basis to see how it works for everyone.

Please note that the "Today's Posts" option in the "Quick Links" menu and the "What's New?" option in the "Community" menu will still show threads from the "General Chat" forum.

 

[captain black]

I have removed the "General Chat" threads from the "New Posts" search results on a trial basis to see how it works for everyone.

Great change Joe

It was a delight this morning to click on "New Posts" and not have to see the political or religious threads

 

[Country Lad]

Great change Joe

It was a delight this morning to click on "New Posts" and not have to see the political or religious threads

Agree. When I am bored, I can always go to the "Today's Posts" to see all the partisan, circular political arguments.

Cheers
Country Lad

 

[pixel]

Please note that the "Today's Posts" option in the "Quick Links" menu and the "What's New?" option in the "Community" menu will still show threads from the "General Chat" forum.

Thanks Joe. Much appreciated.

 

[Country Lad]

Is it just me - I am getting the chats in "New Posts" again.

Cheers
Country Lad

 

[captain black]

Is it just me - I am getting the chats in "New Posts" again.

All good here CL, no general chat posts showing up. I've logged out and in again and there was a post in one of the religious threads that didn't show in "new posts". (Once again, excellent change Joe )

 

[pixel]

It seems that Joe's "fix" has not been applied to all forms; I'm also getting the "full" list at times, and haven't quite figured out yet, under which circumstances the old query is invoked. It does seem, however, that the religio-politico threads are omitted when I request "New Posts" from a stock-specific post.

Edit: After posting this reply, I clicked on "New Posts", and the result comes without the chatter.

 

[Joe Blow]

It's all good at my end.

Could those still getting "General Chat" threads when clicking "New Posts" please clear their browser's cache and then restart their PC. After that check it again and let me know how you go.

Thanks!

 

[So_Cynical]

I have removed the "General Chat" threads from the "New Posts" search results on a trial basis to see how it works for everyone.

And there i was thinking the the ASF right had finally woken up to themselves, did the usual click on new posts and no rubbish threads...nice work.

Perhaps now i can take them all off ignore? or perhaps not.

 

[burglar]

When I started ASF back in 2004, my intention was to create an online community. ...

Hi Joe,
One of the best posts I've ever read - FWIW I feel you have succeeded !

 

[Country Lad]

It seems that Joe's "fix" has not been applied to all forms; I'm also getting the "full" list at times, and haven't quite figured out yet, under which circumstances the old query is invoked. It does seem, however, that the religio-politico threads are omitted when I request "New Posts" from a stock-specific post.

I found the same thing pixel. After playing around a bit, I think I found the issue.

My link to the ASF is directly to the “New Posts” page.

When I first arrive, I get the new posts without the “Chat” and then open each one I want to read into new tabs. When finished reading them all and closed all the tabs I am back at the page with the old “New Posts” page. Click “New Posts” again and you get the “Chats” as well.

If I am in a particular post page, reading a post and then click on “New Posts” from there, I don’t get the chats.

Simple answer, don’t click “New Posts” twice in any page if you don’t want to see “Chats’ If however you want to see “Chats” click ”New Posts” twice.

Cheers
Country Lad

 

[pixel]

I found the same thing pixel.
[...]
Simple answer, don’t click “New Posts” twice in any page if you don’t want to see “Chats’ If however you want to see “Chats” click “New Posts” twice.

Cheers
Country Lad

Hey CL,

I can confirm your finding. It also works that way if you open each thread in the same tab, then return to the list by a single click on "New Posts", which gives you the Trading/Investment posts only. Wait 5 seconds and click "New Posts" again, and you get the Chats as well.

My suggestion for Joe: Check whether there is a separate page/ script for the list, and your "fix" has only been applied to the one that displays the posts of an individual thread. I seem to recall a time when the menu was updated and "New Posts" was in different places, depending on the contents of the frame below.

PS: Yes, there's a different menu on top of this "Reply to Thread" page. But if I were to click on that now, I'd lose what I've been typing. You will probably find that the "New Posts" script had been amended for the menu option that's behind the "Calendar", but not on the page that has it behind "New Events". Should be easily fixed on that other one too.

 

[Country Lad]

My suggestion for Joe: Check whether there is a separate page/ script for the list, and your "fix" has only been applied to the one that displays the posts of an individual thread. I seem to recall a time when the menu was updated and "New Posts" was in different places, depending on the contents of the frame below.

Or leave it the way it is. We now know it is easy to get "New Posts" without the Chatter. Those who want to see the Chatter can now deal with the real and more important (share) posts first and they can then simply click on the New Posts a second time to bring up those umm, other posts.

Cheers
Country Lad

 

[coolcup]

I like the new "new posts" setting. Much less cluttered!

 

[DocK]

I like the new "new posts" setting. Much less cluttered!

+1

I prefer it also.

 

[nulla nulla]

Or leave it the way it is. We now know it is easy to get "New Posts" without the Chatter. Those who want to see the Chatter can now deal with the real and more important (share) posts first and they can then simply click on the New Posts a second time to bring up those umm, other posts.

Cheers
Country Lad

For what it is worth, I endorse the above post by Country Lad. The initial click on "new posts" brings up the Share posts which can be dealt with, then the second click on "new posts" brings up everthing including the general chat threads. A lot easier than going through the comunity tag and selecting "whats new". A bit like reading a paper with the business section at the front and the gossip columns, letters to the editor etc at the back.

Two thumbs up Joe, good job.

 

[pixel]

I like the new "new posts" setting. Much less cluttered!

+2
and I would prefer if the function was available also on the menu above the list (behind "New Events")

Reason: When I return to the ASF tab after, say, 30 minutes of trading and chart analysis, I click on "New Posts" (the option behind "New Events") to refresh the page and see what's new. It's confusing to then get a different list.

That aside, any web developer will agree that it's a much neater design when the same function delivers the same result, regardless on which page or how often it's executed. If a one-click button for "New Chats" were needed, resulting in the complementary list, I'm sure that could be pulled out of the Quick links and added as a menu option.