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bellenuit said:
I watched a bit of it live on Sky last night about midnight Perth time. Not that China needs excuses to take over, but the protestors seem to be doing everything in their power to make it easy for China. They had found some people that they thought were likely Chinese agents and rather than just kick them out of the airport, they tied them up and were not able to fly protect them from the mob, allowing them to be injured. There were also a few US and UK flags in the crowd, which also plays into the Chinese narrative.
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And i expect a lot of protestors to be manipulated by Beijing
 
Was with an ex Hong Kong client today. She reckons the PLA had been infiltrating the police and establishment for years, hence why they came back to Oz. Nothing that has happened has surprised her.
 
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The risk of a major war between India and Pakistan (both of whom have nuclear weapons..) is now very high. The issue has been India's decision to "take over " the majority Muslim provice of Kashmir.

It is often difficult to understand the historical aspects of this conflict but there is an excellent article in The Guardian which is succinct and clear.
India’s illegal power grab is turning Kashmir into a colony
Mirza Waheed
Narendra Modi’s nationalist takeover runs roughshod over Kashmir’s special status and its people’s rights

Wed 14 Aug 2019 12.47 EDT Last modified on Wed 14 Aug 2019 13.56 EDT

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I haven’t been able to hear the voices of my parents for more than a week now. We usually talk or exchange messages a few times during the day, mostly about their creeping health issues or about my children’s latest antics here in London. But now, not a peep. It’s because, like all Kashmiris, they’re under siege, experiencing the worst crackdown in three decades, imposed by the Indian government as it revoked the region’s autonomy by abrogating article 370 of the constitution.


The article, dating back to 1949, guaranteed Kashmir’s special status within the larger Indian union and enshrined the conditions of the state’s accession to India soon after partition in 1947. The newly created states of India and Pakistan had gone to war over Muslim-majority Kashmir, an independent kingdom at the time. After mediation from the United Nations, all parties agreed that the future of Kashmir was to be decided later via a referendum – something India and Pakistan have failed to honour. The provisions of the article meant that, pending the final resolution via a plebiscite, the state had its own constitution, its own national flag, a prime minister and a president, even as successive Indian regimes, starting in the early 1950s, diluted the article in order to diminish Kashmir’s autonomy.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...endra-modi-kashmir-hindu-first-india-autonomy
 
I wonder if the Epstein "suicide" will simply be forgotten about and become just another "conspiracy theory".

The going trend seems to be:
Incident happens.

A range of conspiracies are put forward.

Truth is buried with media washing (leaks about the case that are actually lies).

Outrageous conspiracy theories are pushed.

Too hard to work out.

Public moves on.
 
moXJO said:
I wonder if the Epstein "suicide" will simply be forgotten about and become just another "conspiracy theory".

The going trend seems to be:
Incident happens.

A range of conspiracies are put forward.

Truth is buried with media washing (leaks about the case that are actually lies).

Outrageous conspiracy theories are pushed.

Too hard to work out.

Public moves on.
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Alleged victims come out of the woodwork all clamouring for magazine/tv contracts for the "inside story".
 
SirRumpole said:
This site appears to want my personal data before I can access this article.

Stuff them.
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AOL, was America Online, and is an American Broadband connection operating mainly out of New York and Los Angeles. Often used by many as it gives their location in numerous places in the states and acts both as a disguise plus access to many websites where foreign access is blocked. It is one of my two broadband accounts. It is entirely safe but certain laws in America apply and they must abide by them. It was taken over and no new customers can join in some countries, they can in America, and it avoids an ISP connection on parts of its service. Probably the world's largest broadband connection though that was some years back. Was owned by Time Warner and tied up with Google but now part of Verizon Media.
 
The UK Government may well fall on Tuesday in London with a vote of 'no confidence' set for the agenda in Parliament. Should this happen a General Election is expected on 14 October.
The UK is set to leave the EU on 31 October as the Government battles with those who wish to bring in further legislation to stop it.
The UK Government has been reported to have its army on alert as repercussions may be similar to that presently in Hong Kong.
Https://www.theguardian.com/politic...provoke-early-election-claims-gauke-live-news
Https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...pare-williamson-ta-territorials-a8732506.html

The UK is England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar. It excludes the Isle of Man, and The British Chanel Islands. They are part of Great Britain but not The UK. Northern Ireland is part of the UK but not Great Britain. Gibraltar is a UK Overseas Territory.
 
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noirua said:
The UK Government may well fall on Tuesday in London with a vote of 'no confidence' set for the agenda in Parliament. Should this happen a General Election is expected on 14 October.
The UK is set to leave the EU on 31 October as the Government battles with those who wish to bring in further legislation to stop it.
The UK Government has been reported to have its army on alert as repercussions may be similar to that presently in Hong Kong.
Https://www.theguardian.com/politic...provoke-early-election-claims-gauke-live-news
Https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...pare-williamson-ta-territorials-a8732506.html

The UK is England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and Gibraltar. It excludes the Isle of Man, and The British Chanel Islands. They are part of Great Britain but not The UK. Northern Ireland is part of the UK but not Great Britain. Gibraltar is a UK Overseas Territory.
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Interesting juncture. Brexit has really become a proxy for the choice of whether people want to live in an overtly liberal democracy, or a covert totalitarian dystopia.

The British people seem to be collectively confused about which side is which.

I would point out that the majority were correct in 2016.
 
wayneL said:
Interesting juncture. Brexit has really become a proxy for the choice of whether people want to live in an overtly liberal democracy, or a covert totalitarian dystopia.
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Don't think so. Some of the Conservatives, some of the Labourites and most of the Liberals want to stay.
True democracy at work.

Anyway Boris has won, they can't do anything to him. No legislation can be forced before the Queen's speech. An election will be too late. The remainers have lost. Chances are Boris will win the election anyway on the latest polls.
 
Maybe I am misunderstanding you.
I don't think it is people asking to live in a covert totalitarian dystopia.
The British system of democracy is pretty good.
 
Knobby22 said:
Maybe I am misunderstanding you.
I don't think it is people asking to live in a covert totalitarian dystopia.
The British system of democracy is pretty good.
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Well, just look at the latest draft legislation from Corbynov, et al. It would collar Britain into the eu indefinitely.

People believe they are making that choice, and they are. Of course everyone thinks they are on the right side. Approximately half are very wrong about that.
 

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