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Absolutely devastating news. One of my favourite cathedrals in Europe and without doubt the most atmospheric. I hope they manage to restore it as authentically and as accurately as they possibly can.
 
Joe Blow said:
Absolutely devastating news. One of my favourite cathedrals in Europe and without doubt the most atmospheric. I hope they manage to restore it as authentically and as accurately as they possibly can.
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It is devastating.
Hope it wasn't arson, a lot of churches have been attacked in france the last few years.
 
Under reno so a blowtorch error is my guess. Nice to see the president vowing to repair it.
 
PZ99 said:
Nice to see the president vowing to repair it.
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I heard he is bringing in the best restoration artist.

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I know many will see me as a crazy conspiracy guy, but lately in France, 2 churches a day are vandalised, burnt, destroyed..I do not need to point any finger, we all know who are the arsonists:
last February 5 churches in a week in mostly paris area:
http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-dive...eglises-en-une-semaine-10-02-2019-8008827.php
just recently:
17/03/2019, within walking distance from Notre Dame:http://www.lefigaro.fr/culture/2019...adations-a-l-eglise-saint-sulpice-a-paris.php

or updated the 29/03:
http://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/religion...defendre-les-chretiens-a-ne-rapporte-rien.php
In France, in 2017 last figures available, 978 religious buildings have been attacked in France, 878 of them Christians..

Yes there was renovation work but as anyone familiar with these buildings knows, there is always renovation work.
The minister started saying that it is not arsonism or terrorism, but he is opening an enquiry to determine what is the cause...
Bla bla black sheep...sleep well citizens, all is good

A civilisation collapsing without fighting, next the Eiffel tower, the statue of Liberty in NY or the Philadelphia bell?
One thing we can be all sure is that we will never know the truth if inconvenient. If only we had Assange around..
 
Knobby22 said:
Notre Dame Paris burning down.
Terrible, sad, upsetting.
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I'm not even slightly religious but it's very sad to see this destroyed. A magnificent building it was most certainly.

At a personal level, so far as I'm aware it's the only place I've been which is considered a major city or national landmark and which has since been destroyed. At least I think that's the case. Hopefully it remains the only one.
 
Yep as an artist educationally wise a very important part of that and architecture historically a great loss.

However, compared to 2000 plus year old gum trees here in Victoria supporting hundreds of animal species I regard it as zilch.
 
Indonesia has elections today. They have their own version of trump running. Even with the catchphrase: "Make Indonesian great again".
He is pandering to the extremist Muslims in the country who say they will mass protest if he doesn't win.

Bigger deal than our own election imo.
 
PZ99 said:
Under reno so a blowtorch error is my guess. Nice to see the president vowing to repair it.
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With all that stonework I wonder what was burning. Wooden rafters I expect.

I hope they do a proper restoration and use steel girders.
 
SirRumpole said:
With all that stonework I wonder what was burning. Wooden rafters I expect.

I hope they do a proper restoration and use steel girders.
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The wood rafters that burnt were oak. Just the craft work that went into the frame was a thing of beauty. Apparently cut from old trees of huge size, which they don't have in france anymore. I don't think they could replace the timbers to match. If its restoration work you generally replace like for like.
 
moXJO said:
The wood rafters that burnt were oak. Just the craft work that went into the frame was a thing of beauty. Apparently cut from old trees of huge size, which they don't have in france anymore. I don't think they could replace the timbers to match. If its restoration work you generally replace like for like.
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Wood veneer over steel rafters ?

Sacriledge !
 
explod said:
Yep as an artist educationally wise a very important part of that and architecture historically a great loss.

However, compared to 2000 plus year old gum trees here in Victoria supporting hundreds of animal species I regard it as zilch.
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I find both equally distressing.

Worse still is the celebratory tweets from those of the "religion of peace". The ultimate ramifications of such, I believe will be even more egregious.
 
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The broader San Francisco Bay Area can also claim Silicon Valley and its booming economy.


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