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rumpole said:
With all the increased security these days, one wonders how they got a bomb on board in the first place.
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Airport security has never caught anyone trying to get a bomb on board. It's the biggest waste of time ever. The mushrooms who fly once a year take comfort in it though, so well all have to put up with it.
 
ID is checked more thoroughly to enter a music festival, nightclub or even a city pub than it is to get on board a domestic flight in Australia. At least it is in my experience.

Also I do wonder about the screening differences between countries. Eg in the US you have to take your shoes and belt off, no exceptions at least in my experience. Here in Australia belts are only an issue if it actually sets off the metal detector, and shoes aren't an issue unless they're made of metal. Why the difference? :confused:

Anyway, I'm still hoping that it wasn't a bomb or other act of terrorism. I can't personally relate to what it would be like, but if I lost a friend or family member in a plane crash then I'd expect that coming to terms with a genuine accident or something caused by nature would be easier than knowing that it was deliberately done by someone and was thus completely avoidable. At least that's my thoughts on it anyway.
 
McLovin said:
Airport security has never caught anyone trying to get a bomb on board. It's the biggest waste of time ever. The mushrooms who fly once a year take comfort in it though, so well all have to put up with it.
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Yep, the illusion of safety
 
McLovin said:
In all seriousness, what does it matter? Does checking ID prevent anything but the laziest terrorist from getting onboard?
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I don't doubt that it's of limited effectiveness and that fake ID's are available pretty easily.

But I still find it strange to be having one level of security often used at places of entertainment and a lower level of security used at airports. I just think that, will all the fuss about aviation "security" since 9/11, it would be logical to expect more such measures would be used at airports than anywhere else and yet that is not the case. :2twocents
 
Smurf1976 said:
I don't doubt that it's of limited effectiveness and that fake ID's are available pretty easily.

But I still find it strange to be having one level of security often used at places of entertainment and a lower level of security used at airports. I just think that, will all the fuss about aviation "security" since 9/11, it would be logical to expect more such measures would be used at airports than anywhere else and yet that is not the case. :2twocents
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But ID checking at nightclubs is so the owner of the nightclub doesn't get a big fine for letting in underage drinkers, it's not really about "security" and more about them covering their ar$e.

Most prevention of terrorism is by spooks who you never see or hear about. Because, let's face it, if you really want to inflict massive amounts of damage and terror with little problem with security, you'd hit somewhere like Town Hall train station at 6pm on a Friday.
 
Malaysia Airlines flight MH370: Vietnam search planes find possible aircraft debris in sea

This could speed things up, if the debris is from the flight then it may not be long before they locate the bulk of the wreckage (assuming it is MH370) and hopefully soon after the flight data recorders. The water in that area is not really deep (45-80m), as it was for the Air France flight in 2009 off the coast of S.America in the Atlantic (1000's of meters).
 
Must just be me then? Stopped in L.A. airport where a rather large Negro lady security guard packing the 45 went downtown on my hand luggage and could not get it in her pin head that "men" actually wear cologne. I had a bottle of parfum' Calvin Klein Truth in my backpack and she DID NOT LIKE IT !!! She repeatedly asked me what it was ... I went to show her that you spray it on your body and she immediately backed up and went for the gun and stated "I would not be doing that if I were you Sir!"

I SHAT and complied with her wishes ... QUICK SMART !! Backpack through the X Ray machine, bottle of cologne separately through the X Ray machine and me through the stand up X Ray machine sans belt, shoes, watch, wallet you know the drill. "Have a nice day Sir" after she emptied everything out of the back pack AGAIN and I had to put it all back and continued on my journey.

I think the Malaysian Airline is a tragic accident and a coincidence that 2 stolen passports were used. I do not see any terrorist organisations lining up to claim responsibility? Or is it too early yet??

The FBI is also being sent, although officials stressed there was no evidence of terrorism yet.
Concerns have been expressed that the flight may have been targeted by an anti-Chinese group such as the Uighur militants from China’s restive Xinjiang province in the country’s northwest but, again, there is no evidence or claim of responsibility so far.
In fact, sources told NBC News that only “wackos” had so far claimed to be behind the incident, as often happens in the wake of global catastrophes.
Known terror groups such as al Qaeda traditionally seek credit after perpetrating attacks but have stayed quiet, with no “chatter” — or intercepted communications — picked up by intelligence agencies about the plane.
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http://www.news.com.au/world/malays...fter-it-vanished/story-fndir2ev-1226849847203
 
trainspotter said:
Must just be me then? Stopped in L.A. airport where a rather large Negro lady security guard packing the 45 went downtown on my hand luggage and could not get it in her pin head that "men" actually wear cologne. I had a bottle of parfum' Calvin Klein Truth in my backpack and she DID NOT LIKE IT !!! She repeatedly asked me what it was ... I went to show her that you spray it on your body and she immediately backed up and went for the gun and stated "I would not be doing that if I were you Sir!"

I SHAT and complied with her wishes ... QUICK SMART !! Backpack through the X Ray machine, bottle of cologne separately through the X Ray machine and me through the stand up X Ray machine sans belt, shoes, watch, wallet you know the drill. "Have a nice day Sir" after she emptied everything out of the back pack AGAIN and I had to put it all back and continued on my journey.

I think the Malaysian Airline is a tragic accident and a coincidence that 2 stolen passports were used. I do not see any terrorist organisations lining up to claim responsibility? Or is it too early yet??



http://www.news.com.au/world/malays...fter-it-vanished/story-fndir2ev-1226849847203
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They can really go over the top in the US can't they! lol...

I would have thought that if this was a terrorist event that someone would have claimed responsibility by now, unless they are so stupid that they're really not sure what happened to the plane either and are waiting for some confirmation.:banghead:
 
sptrawler said:
Apparently, there was no distress call.
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So, if there was no distress call, could that be because, it was a catastophic explosion, or somebody didn't want to make the call, or the call couldn't be made?

One of the stolen passport users has been identified, it may narrow down the possibilities.
 
CanOz said:
If that's true, it adds a whole new dimension to this mystery and lets in the possibility that the plane has been hijacked or stolen....:eek:
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Yes, the fact a distress call wasn't made, really puts the focus on an explosion or catastophic failure.

If that wasn't the case, it puts the focus on a pilot not making the call.

Most people in a position of responsibilty, like a pilot, are grilled to report a situation that could cause an abnormal event, especially if it is unrecoverable.
 

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