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Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin was on the passenger list of a jet which crashed killing all on board, Russia's civil aviation authority has said.

Earlier, Wagner-linked Telegram channel Grey Zone reported that the private plane, which belonged to the 62-year-old, was shot down by air defences.

Grey Zone posted later on Wednesday that Prigozhin died "as a result of actions of traitors of Russia". Prigozhin led a failed mutiny against the Russian armed forces in June.

- Vladimir Putin, a "rational actor" in the exercise of statecraft, but with a side hustle in pyschopathic revenge.
 
Dona Ferentes said:
Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin was on the passenger list of a jet which crashed killing all on board, Russia's civil aviation authority has said.

Earlier, Wagner-linked Telegram channel Grey Zone reported that the private plane, which belonged to the 62-year-old, was shot down by air defences.

Grey Zone posted later on Wednesday that Prigozhin died "as a result of actions of traitors of Russia". Prigozhin led a failed mutiny against the Russian armed forces in June.

- Vladimir Putin, a "rational actor" in the exercise of statecraft, but with a side hustle in pyschopathic revenge.
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Pretty silly telegraphing your movements by putting your name on a passenger list.

I think he's probably somewhere else.
 
Here's a story. If your rich and want cheap goodies - hire your own shoplifter.
I'm trying understand why she has somehow agreed to this interview. Seems dangerously stupid for both her and her clients. This presumes the story is real and not a piece of creative license.

GRAN LARCENY

I steal luxury goods including steaks & champagne for rich clients – I earn £500 a day, reveals shameless gran​


She pockets up to £500 a day and boasts: “Business is booming. Everyone wants to save a few quid — no matter what they earn.”

The woman, who we are calling Lou, says her age is the perfect cover for her pilfering.

She pinches everything from fillet steak, lobster and champagne to Egyptian cotton sheets — taking half the price as “payment”.
Lou claims to have 60 clients who turn to her as they are feeling the pinch from soaring household bills, private school fees and mortgage hikes.

www.thesun.co.uk

I steal luxury goods for rich clients - I earn £500 a day, says shameless gran

A SHAMELESS gran is shoplifting posh nosh to order — for the rich. The thief, 65, steals luxury food and high-end tipples for customers in well-to-do areas. She pockets up to £500 a day and boasts:…
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Luxury cruise ship runs aground in Greenland national park with 206 passengers on board, 100 of them are Aussies, hopefully all are well. :cool:

abcnews.go.com

Rescue efforts underway for luxury cruise ship that ran aground in Greenland

A luxury cruise ship carrying 206 passengers has run aground off the coast of Greenland.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com

A luxury cruise ship carrying 206 passengers has run aground off the coast of Greenland.

The Ocean Explorer, a 343-foot long and 60-foot wide ship, ran aground on Monday near Alpefjord in the Northeast Greenland National Park -- a 375,000-square-mile area that is the most northerly national park in the world.

There have been no reports of damage to the ship.

www.smh.com.au

Sydney couple stuck on luxury cruise ship as COVID cases reported

Steven Fraser and Gina Hill are among the 206 mostly Australian passengers on The Ocean Explorer, which has run aground in eastern Greenland.
www.smh.com.au www.smh.com.au
 
sptrawler said:
Luxury cruise ship runs aground in Greenland national park with 206 passengers on board, 100 of them are Aussies, hopefully all are well. :cool:

abcnews.go.com

Rescue efforts underway for luxury cruise ship that ran aground in Greenland

A luxury cruise ship carrying 206 passengers has run aground off the coast of Greenland.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com

A luxury cruise ship carrying 206 passengers has run aground off the coast of Greenland.

The Ocean Explorer, a 343-foot long and 60-foot wide ship, ran aground on Monday near Alpefjord in the Northeast Greenland National Park -- a 375,000-square-mile area that is the most northerly national park in the world.

There have been no reports of damage to the ship.

www.smh.com.au

Sydney couple stuck on luxury cruise ship as COVID cases reported

Steven Fraser and Gina Hill are among the 206 mostly Australian passengers on The Ocean Explorer, which has run aground in eastern Greenland.
www.smh.com.au www.smh.com.au
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Apparently stuck in mud
 
StockyGuy said:
Was def scanning for a punchline and making sure it wasn't April 1st etc.... pretty incredible:

www.dailymail.co.uk

The world's first known dog-fox hybrid discovered in Brazil

Scientists from local universities performed extensive genetic tests and determined the unusual animal was half-half - her mother was a pampas fox and her father was a domestic dog.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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dingos and domesticated dogs have been known to cross bred, so nothing is not possible.
 
farmerge said:
dingos and domesticated dogs have been known to cross bred, so nothing is not possible.
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Yes the difference is the chromosone count, which is a cross species mating, as opposed to cross breed mating which is a mating of a different breed of the same species.
Well that's my understanding and from memory I think I read somewhere that when it happens the offspring is usually sterile, again just from memory.
A bit like one of your Angus mating with an Ass, at least you would have a good name for it Angusass. :roflmao:

From @StockyGuy article:
It is thought to be the first ever recorded instance of a fox and dog breeding.

Genetic tests revealed she had 76 chromosones - a combination of the fox's 74 and dog's 78.

The team published their findings in the journal Animals and believe there may be more dogxims in the wild.

Domestic dogs have interbred before with wild species including coyotes, wolves and dingos.
 
sptrawler said:
Yes the difference is the chromosone count, which is a cross species mating, as opposed to cross breed mating which is a mating of a different breed of the same species.
Well that's my understanding and from memory I think I read somewhere that when it happens the offspring is usually sterile, again just from memory.
A bit like one of your Angus mating with an Ass, at least you would have a good name for it Angusass. :roflmao:

From @StockyGuy article:
It is thought to be the first ever recorded instance of a fox and dog breeding.

Genetic tests revealed she had 76 chromosones - a combination of the fox's 74 and dog's 78.

The team published their findings in the journal Animals and believe there may be more dogxims in the wild.

Domestic dogs have interbred before with wild species including coyotes, wolves and dingos.
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Yes, the domestic dog is canis familiaris, basically a domesticated subspecies of the wolf, canis lupus. Biologists argue over whether the dingo is lupus or familiaris, nevertheless both the dingo and the dog are essentially wolves.

The fox is a completely different species altogether however, which is what makes this quite remarkable.
 
wayneL said:
Yes, the domestic dog is canis familiaris, basically a domesticated subspecies of the wolf, canis lupus. Biologists argue over whether the dingo is lupus or familiaris, nevertheless both the dingo and the dog are essentially wolves.

The fox is a completely different species altogether however, which is what makes this quite remarkable.
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Still remarkable, but I sense there's some playfulness in using the common name "fox" to make it seem even more remarkable. The Pampas fox belongs to The South American foxes (Lycalopex) genus. Wikipedia states, "[d]espite their name, they are not true foxes, but are a unique canid genus more closely related to wolves and jackals than to true foxes; some of them resemble foxes due to convergent evolution. " (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_American_fox)

Point being, they are closer to a dog than a legit old world fox.

True foxes are probably too far removed from dogs to produce viable offspring.
 
sptrawler said:
Yes the difference is the chromosone count, which is a cross species mating, as opposed to cross breed mating which is a mating of a different breed of the same species.
Well that's my understanding and from memory I think I read somewhere that when it happens the offspring is usually sterile, again just from memory.
A bit like one of your Angus mating with an Ass, at least you would have a good name for it Angusass. :roflmao:

From @StockyGuy article:
It is thought to be the first ever recorded instance of a fox and dog breeding.

Genetic tests revealed she had 76 chromosones - a combination of the fox's 74 and dog's 78.

The team published their findings in the journal Animals and believe there may be more dogxims in the wild.

Domestic dogs have interbred before with wild species including coyotes, wolves and dingos.
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Mr sp I think if my prize Bull got anywhere near an Ass the Ass would be sprawled on the ground with all legs going in four different directions. He is just loafing around eating and getting heavier while watching his off spring in the next paddock. At a guess I would put him in the 11/4 tonne plus category.
 
farmerge said:
Mr sp I think if my prize Bull got anywhere near an Ass the Ass would be sprawled on the ground with all legs going in four different directions. He is just loafing around eating and getting heavier while watching his off spring in the next paddock. At a guess I would put him in the 11/4 tonne plus category.
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My sister breeds bulls, great hobby.
 
sptrawler said:
My sister breeds bulls, great hobby.
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We are currently having some of our heifers calving. The sire is a son of M41 and his mother is a pet Murray Grey. So far 4 on the ground and look pretty good. Shame that the red mat market is in such a shambles though.
 
farmerge said:
We are currently having some of our heifers calving. The sire is a son of M41 and his mother is a pet Murray Grey. So far 4 on the ground and look pretty good. Shame that the red mat market is in such a shambles though.
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Is that because of true market forces, or are you getting screwed over by the corporates?
 
wayneL said:
Is that because of true market forces, or are you getting screwed over by the corporates?
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Bit of both, but my gut feeling is the closing off of the live export trade.
Of course the big supermarkets haven't dropped their price per kilo even though they are paying at least 50% less per animal now.
I was taking to an old retired farming mate from the Eastern Belt on the weekend, his nephew is farming the farm now, and can't sell any lambs for less than production costs
Will only get worse unless some common sense prevails.
 
farmerge said:
Bit of both, but my gut feeling is the closing off of the live export trade.
Of course the big supermarkets haven't dropped their price per kilo even though they are paying at least 50% less per animal now.
I was taking to an old retired farming mate from the Eastern Belt on the weekend, his nephew is farming the farm now, and can't sell any lambs for less than production costs
Will only get worse unless some common sense prevails.
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I went for a run out to Wickepin on the weekend, there are a hell of a lot sheep in the paddocks, it could end up very ugly. It wasn't that long ago farmers were having to shoot them in the paddock, because they couldn't sell them and couldn't feed them.
The road to hell is littered with good intent.
 

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