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Are we all going to die in October?

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Re: Are we all going to die Thursday?

derty said:
they wont be smashing anything together until late October.
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What a great thread, enjoying it immensely! AND - we get to do this all again in late October!
 
Re: Are we all going to die Thursday?

Are we safe now? This has been frightening.

bearmarket
 
Re: Are we all going to die Thursday?

Hello!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone left out there???????

Am I alone??????
 
Re: Are we all going to die Thursday?

Seeing that Thursday has come (and almost gone)

I've requested to the powers that be that the thread title be changed to "Are we all going to die in October?"

(I'll keep requesting that the title be changed until either we all get sucked into some ungodly black hole or I die of old age)

 
Re: Are we all going to die Thursday?


They'll no doubt assume it had either a religious or a sporting significance.

Well it seems for this poor girl that the LHC was the cause of her death .... or should the media take the blame with it's disgraceful fear mongering.
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At least she stands a good chance of getting a Darwin Award
 
Thanks Mods for changing title.

From todays Age newspaper.

Hackers claim they have broken into the computer system of the Large Hadron Collider, the mega-machine designed to expose secrets of the cosmos.

A group calling itself the Greek Security Team left a rogue webpage mocking the technicians responsible for computer security at the giant atom smasher as "schoolkids", The Times and Daily Telegraph reported.

The hackers vowed they had no intention of disrupting the experiment at the European Organisation for Nuclear Research (CERN) on the Swiss-French border, they just wanted to highlight the flaws in the computer system's security.

"We're pulling your pants down because we don't want to see you running around naked looking to hide yourselves when the panic comes," they wrote, according to the Daily Telegraph.

The hackers claimed to have gained access to a website open to other scientists on Wednesday as the LHC passed its first test with flying colours, the reports said.

They appear to have tried to gain access to the computer system of the Compact Muon Solenoid Experiment, one of the four detectors that will be analysing the progress of the experiment.

James Gillies, a spokesman for CERN, told The Times: "We don't know who they were but there seems to be no harm done. It appears to be people who want to make a point that CERN was hackable."

Scientists hailed the success of the start of the experiment on Wednesday in the Large Hadron Collider, the 27-kilometre circular tunnel in which parallel beams of protons will be accelerated to nearly the speed of light.

Superconducting magnets will then steer the counter-rotating beams so that strings of protons smash together in four huge laboratories, fleetingly replicating the conditions that prevailed at the "Big Bang" that created the Universe 13.7 billion years ago.
 
I don't know how they can be SO certain.

The whole point of this is to discover previously unknown sub-atomic particles. Therefore they can't know precisely, however there is a large body of work from previous experiments anyway, so they do have some idea. I can't think of any examples in nature on Earth where proton's hit each other at close to the speed of light. So that scientist's claim does not assure me unless he gives further evidence. "Trust me I'm a scientist", is not a valid argument.

In any case, I don't think the world will end when they start smashing particles at power levels that no-one has tested at yet. At worst, maybe something could blow up and poison the water table in that region with previously unknown nuclear contaminents.

You just know they are going to keep upping the power levels here, no doubt they'll test it bit by bit rather than try and hit full power in one go.

I've forgotten alot of physics, I can't remember how they detect the particles themselves. I think they can track the particles movement as it goes thru water or some other fluid. They'd have multiple types of sensors no doubt.

If I'm driving a space ship that runs on neutrino's in a few decades time, I'll have these guys to thank. Reminds of the movie He-man (dare I admit watching it) when the little troll says "I've converted their ancient hydro-carbon engine to run on neutrino's" or something like that.
 
I suppose the worst that could happen is the repair crew forget their long johns ... (then again it's "well above" absolute zero - like, probably minus 200 C or something)

and maybe run into some of that helium and start talking like some supercool Donald Duck.
 
I guess the answer to the question asked in the title is a resounding......no
 
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