Any followers of Jesus here???????

Twiddle · 28 July 2010

explod said:
Who told you that ?

Physics, Cosmology, Geology, Chemistry. They all independently attest to the age of the earth and universe.

explod said:
and what do they reckon started it?

There are many ideas and hypotheses, however currently the correct answer is "no one knows". But more importantly we need to try and understand if that is even a valid question. Time and space "starting", may be a flawed concept to begin with.

Suffice to say, it is complex. But we know what we shouldn't do, and that is claim to have the answer when we don't have any evidence, as religion does.

Ruby · 28 July 2010

trainspotter said:
What happens on August 10th....?

I think that's when the tsunami is going to hit. The earthquake follows early in September.

trainspotter · 28 July 2010

Ruby said:
I think that's when the tsunami is going to hit. The earthquake follows early in September.

Excellent ! I am off to get my longboard out of storage.

HEY ! .... wait a minute ...... doesn't underwater earthquakes cause tsunamis? SO shouldn't the earthquake precede the tsunami?

Ruby · 28 July 2010

That's what I thought TS, but in this case we are wrong.

robots · 28 July 2010

hello,

what a great thread, fabulous discussion

just amazing where the mind takes us

thankyou
professor robots

malachii · 28 July 2010

awg said:
If you are a person of faith, do you think it helps you feel reassured in any way against the vagaries of the market?

I was speaking to a believer today, and he was such an enthusiastic, jovial fellow that I found myself feeling that a conversion might be of benefit to me

G'day awg,

Yes and no. Deep down I believe in a greater power so yes I find reassurance in that. No - I still travel the emotional rollercoaster like everyone else when the market moves with or against me.

My God is an awesome God who has made seperate rooms in heaven for us. Threads like this make me say "Thank you God" for that!

malachii

malachii · 28 July 2010

malachii said:
My God is an awesome God who has made seperate rooms in heaven for us. Threads like this make me say "Thank you God" for that!

malachii

Sorry awg - this comment was in no way referring to your question. I just got a bit frustrated at some previous comments that I had just read and slipped this in without thinking (see - us Christians do have our moments where we aren't nice and peaceful!!).

malachii

Woko · 28 July 2010

My 1st contribution.

No doubt there are investors, including Christians, with all sorts of values that help determine which stocks they buy &, perhaps more importantly, which stocks they don't buy. There are ethical managed funds which cater for those whose values would mean there's a limited range of stocks in which they would invest but my limited experience suggests that it pays to
research carefully the approaches of these managed funds to investing. As well, some companies' activities are well hidden & it's not until one drills well down that their "less ethical" activities are discovered. As always, caveat emptor.

Woko

Temjin · 29 July 2010

Guys, I would stop bullying the prophet here. Who knows we might end up something like this?

http://www.news.com.au/world/online...d-of-mass-murder/story-e6frfkyi-1225897762113

Better be safe than sorry. You will never know what people CAN and WILL do in the face of humiliation and under social isolation. (who tend to strive for attention and MAY do whatever he/she can do get it)

This is soooo off topic already. lol

Garpal Gumnut · 29 July 2010

malachii said:
Sorry awg - this comment was in no way referring to your question. I just got a bit frustrated at some previous comments that I had just read and slipped this in without thinking (see - us Christians do have our moments where we aren't nice and peaceful!!).

malachii

You don't say.

From my reading of history since anno domino jc1, Christians have had more than a few moments when they haven't been nice and peaceful, way more than just a few moments. All the way from the Romans, through the Normans, the Crusades, Inquisition and on to Kosovo.

Yes you do have your moments.

But what it all has to do with trading shares apart from you being any other brand of godbotherer fails me.

These religious threads should be put in a separate part of ASF, perhaps with alchemy, tarot cards and other belief systems. Lets have a "Cloudland" area of ASF.

gg

gg

malachii · 29 July 2010

G'day GG,

You are right - Christians have been making a mess forever. But then so have all groups. I think the more common thread is the human species. If we don't unite behind religion and fight then it is about something else (ever seen the football hooligans in Europe?). There have been many many atrocities caused by non Christians as well. This doesn't excuse any group but rather highlights the common factor as being mankind rather that a particular reason. Unfortunately we seem to be programmed with this "us and them" mentality that causes us to look for similarities to unite behind and differences to fight about.

You're also correct that we seem to have moved off topic. I'd be more than happy for it to move back to how beliefs (specifically in this case Christianity) effects trading decisions.

malachii

drsmith · 29 July 2010

Garpal Gumnut said:
These religious threads should be put in a separate part of ASF, perhaps with alchemy, tarot cards and other belief systems. Lets have a "Cloudland" area of ASF.

This is a good idea as the discussion would not be necessarily limited to the non-economic.

In the current political climate it would the place to discuss tax simplification.

weatherbill · 2 August 2010

so we should let the souls of men perish without pressing them to see their real need? I dont see that as love..... I see love as sharing so they might be saved

sails said:
My sentiments exactly.

I think Malachii's post was excellent and presents a well balanced perspective - certainly reflects my own views.

I see no point in trying to inflict one's beliefs on to others who are not interested. I think faith in God is a personal thing and those choices should be respected.

I do have friends who are not religious and it makes absolutely no difference to the friendship.

Weatherbill obviously feels he has a message of doom - whether he is right or wrong with his prediction I have no idea and only time will tell. Personally, I am quite uncomfortable with the condescending manner.

Weatherbill - have you ever read this? "Let your light so shine before others so that they may see your good works and glorify your father who is in heaven". I see no point in slamming your ideas to other people. Why not try the biblical approach instead?

weatherbill · 2 August 2010

trainspotter said:
Excellent ! I am off to get my longboard out of storage.

HEY ! .... wait a minute ...... doesn't underwater earthquakes cause tsunamis? SO shouldn't the earthquake precede the tsunami?

earthquake in or near japan causes this tsunami in august,
then the september us west coast mega quake, and that possibly will send a tsunami the other way.I dont have word on that, but just that it will be sept 3rd, as others have written in their amazing testimonies of this date as well , listed at the web site.

wayneL · 2 August 2010

weatherbill said:
so we should let the souls of men perish without pressing them to see their real need? I dont see that as love..... I see love as sharing so they might be saved

If you want to be a "fisher of men", you have to put an attractive bait on the hook. What people like you do is scare the fish away.

BradK · 2 August 2010

wayneL said:
If you want to be a "fisher of men", you have to put an attractive bait on the hook. What people like you do is scare the fish away.

I agree. I have NEVER seen someone converted to Christianity with one of the street corner yellers warning that the end of the world is nigh - save your soul or burn in hell type stuff...

Seems to be completely against the message of Christ. Its as if Christ said one thing, and 'most' of the church seems to DO the exact opposite!

Brad

explod · 2 August 2010

Peace and love was apparently the word of Jesus.

Fear seems to have been the tool of orgainsations to control. As do the Darth Vada uniforms jumping out of helicopters on prime time tv.

If the world became truly peace loving and coperative the rich could not exploit us.

Ruby · 2 August 2010

weatherbill said:
so we should let the souls of men perish without pressing them to see their real need? I dont see that as love..... I see love as sharing so they might be saved

So pleased to see you back Weatherbill. Spreading childish nonsense about card tricks, earthquakes and tsunamis is not sharing love, and it is not going to 'save' anyone from anything.

What is supposed to be the purpose of this earthquake and tsunami anyway?

Ruby · 2 August 2010

wayneL said:
If you want to be a "fisher of men", you have to put an attractive bait on the hook. What people like you do is scare the fish away.

Weatherbill always rises to the bait though!

sails · 2 August 2010

weatherbill said:
so we should let the souls of men perish without pressing them to see their real need? I dont see that as love..... I see love as sharing so they might be saved

Sharing fear??? Trying to rescue those who don't see the need to be rescued?
Most cults are based on fear where people conform simply because of fear.
Fear becomes the controlling factor which is far removed from the genuine article...

I think you and I will need to agree to disagree.

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