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Any followers of Jesus here???????

Vague recollection of an old crone *whack whack whack .... little TS ducking for cover* wearing a habit and carrying a stick preaching me at Sunday School that *whack whack whack* Jesus "real" name was unprouncable and could not be *whack whack whack ...... Waaaahhhh* uttered by human tongues.
 
lol

try vatican and fraud in google

then try church and fraud in google

and then your likely to get some answers on whose footprints one should follow..


dyor and all imho

Hey agentm, surely you know that the vatican is simply the latter day Roman Empire? As such they have the resources built up over two thousand years of a massive state sponsored organisation and should not be considered fraudulent at all, simply what they are.
 
Thanks for a reply.

does your faith effect the way you look at ST trade ops or is it mainly if you were looking at a longer term investment vehicle .... i.e WOW may have imminent breakout and going for a trot ..... would you trade this and take the cash or bypass it alltogether based on a moral desicion?

Bummer about the super powers :D

Cheers

G'day Nun,

Yes - for me it does effect my short term trades. I wont trade WOW at all and there are a few others but you have to understand that this is a personal thing. I have yet to find anywhere in the bible is says "thou shall not trade gambling and pub shares". To me if another person (Christian or not) said that they traded WOW then it certainly wouldn't make me think any worse of them - it's just that for me - I am uncomfortable with how they generate their profits and therefore I want no part of it. I am probably over reacting but I would rather that. To often we (as individuals and as a society) try to see how far we can push boundaries rather than just respecting them.

Just out of interest the CEO who introduced and really pushed WOW into pubs and pokies is a born again Christian who I have a lot of respect for.

malachii
 
Where I don't quite agree is your assertion "it promotes poor value for money choices". Were we to take the care for the disadvantaged, the aged, the homeless away from established charity organisations and hand it to government and public service - I'm certain it would cost twice as much and drown in administration and fat-cattism.
It does in the context that claiming a deduction is in part doing something with someone elses money. The forestry industry is a classic example where investments did not offer a reasonable return on their own merit but seemed attractive due to tax concessions. In the end these investments lost $billions for both taxpayers and investors. While the return on charity is of a different nature (social rather than monetary), the principal is the same.

People can donate to charity regardless of whether a tax deduction is claimable or not.
 
G'day Nun,

Yes - for me it does effect my short term trades. I wont trade WOW at all and there are a few others but you have to understand that this is a personal thing. I have yet to find anywhere in the bible is says "thou shall not trade gambling and pub shares". To me if another person (Christian or not) said that they traded WOW then it certainly wouldn't make me think any worse of them - it's just that for me - I am uncomfortable with how they generate their profits and therefore I want no part of it. I am probably over reacting but I would rather that. To often we (as individuals and as a society) try to see how far we can push boundaries rather than just respecting them.

Just out of interest the CEO who introduced and really pushed WOW into pubs and pokies is a born again Christian who I have a lot of respect for.

malachii

Thankyou for that reply malachii.

It wasnt actually the answer i was expecting on here and for that i say cheers for a level and reasonable answer.

:D ya did ruin my fun tho as i wanted to poke at some of the more hypocritical and black and white way of thinking posts.

You have a great evening.
 
Not sure what I'm opening myself up too yet but here goes....

Yes - I am a Christian I don't want to get caught up in the "emotional hysteria" that a question like this quite often causes but I'm happy to discuss openly (in the annonymous environment of the internet!) my faith and trading if anyone wants to do it in a mature non abusive manner.

malachii

If you are a person of faith, do you think it helps you feel reassured in any way against the vagaries of the market?

I was speaking to a believer today, and he was such an enthusiastic, jovial fellow that I found myself feeling that a conversion might be of benefit to me
 
G'day Nun,

Yes - for me it does effect my short term trades. I wont trade WOW at all and there are a few others but you have to understand that this is a personal thing. I have yet to find anywhere in the bible is says "thou shall not trade gambling and pub shares". To me if another person (Christian or not) said that they traded WOW then it certainly wouldn't make me think any worse of them - it's just that for me - I am uncomfortable with how they generate their profits and therefore I want no part of it. I am probably over reacting but I would rather that. To often we (as individuals and as a society) try to see how far we can push boundaries rather than just respecting them.

Just out of interest the CEO who introduced and really pushed WOW into pubs and pokies is a born again Christian who I have a lot of respect for.

malachii

I would agree with your logic malachii.

I am a follower of Homer Simpson, and he is perennially bothered by Ned Flanders, who as it happens I am led to believe, like you, follows Jesus..

As a result I have sold all my holdings in MSF Maryborough Sugar Factory, as the manager of the Mulgrave Mill, a major contributor to the earnings of MSF is one Peter Flanders, and this disturbs me.

I believe this makes me a better trader.

gg
 
G'day Nun,

Yes - for me it does effect my short term trades. I wont trade WOW at all and there are a few others but you have to understand that this is a personal thing. I have yet to find anywhere in the bible is says "thou shall not trade gambling and pub shares". To me if another person (Christian or not) said that they traded WOW then it certainly wouldn't make me think any worse of them - it's just that for me - I am uncomfortable with how they generate their profits and therefore I want no part of it. I am probably over reacting but I would rather that. To often we (as individuals and as a society) try to see how far we can push boundaries rather than just respecting them.

Just out of interest the CEO who introduced and really pushed WOW into pubs and pokies is a born again Christian who I have a lot of respect for.

malachii
Malachii, if all Christians expressed themselves so well, and avoided a fanatical approach as you seem able to do, religion would be a more popular phenomenon.

awg: I know what you mean about happy Christians. I know a few and nothing gets them down, seemingly because they believe their God always knows what's best and doesn't 'send them anything' they cannot cope with.

I've definitely envied them at times.
 
Silence lets me know what's in the heart of people.

It reveals their motives and thoughts. It shows what is really inside of them. Sometimes, the cannot see the dirt of false accusation they have become so acostomed to. The use that to justify themselves, as though they are higher than the christians they claim are all the same.

They like to stereo type people and put them all in one basket.

They've never met me or even conversed with me much to try to ge tto know me. It shows their lack of DD adn a mind built on presumption instead of investigation and hard facts.

The hard fact is, from June of 2009 to March of 2010, I lived out of my van and travelled the entire west coast of the US distribution by hand and foot over 230,000 mega quake warning flyers.

I don't think anyone here can claim an extravegant living that they try to stereo type every christian with on that.

During that entire time, I only hit up a hotel once, during the super bowl. I went to truck stops and shelters for showers and ate raw food, with a rare fast food meal.

Anyone who has visited the site lately, will be quite suprised to see the others who are getting the same date for this grand event. You can also email some of these folks about their testimonies as well to follow up.

God has backed his word and he has backed it big, with plenty of the new testimonies that have come in the last few months.

Too bad some of you traders will be hammered ths summer.

In fact, you mockers of Jesus, I'll be against the market and let's see you do the opposite....ha ha ...... you wont have the guts, once you take a new visit to my site...... I'll let you thank th eLord soon enough for the precaution,.....

and oh yeah, I saved that earthquake thread, every last one of you mockers and your posts! I have jpegs of every page of it. I knew to save it for the day that;s about to soon come upon you.....

Now you all have a nice big G'day and we'll chat a little more on this soon enough. 8)
 
Too bad some of you traders will be hammered ths summer.

In fact, you mockers of Jesus, I'll be against the market and let's see you do the opposite....ha ha ...... you wont have the guts, once you take a new visit to my site...... I'll let you thank th eLord soon enough for the precaution,.....

and oh yeah, I saved that earthquake thread, every last one of you mockers and your posts! I have jpegs of every page of it. I knew to save it for the day that;s about to soon come upon you.....

Now you all have a nice big G'day and we'll chat a little more on this soon enough. 8)

Jesus gave you stock market tips:eek: Isn't that a bit like insider trading.
On another note your earthquake prediction is clashing with my prediction of nuclear land sharks with laser eyes destroying the west coast in September.
*sigh* I guess I can push mine back to October. I to will be short the market but long uranium stocks.
 
and oh yeah, I saved that earthquake thread, every last one of you mockers and your posts! I have jpegs of every page of it. I knew to save it for the day that;s about to soon come upon you....)
weatherbill,

When you do send it to the Big Fella could you please cc me in on it too, that is one email address I would love to have.

Thanks in Advance.
derty
 
weatherbill,

When you do send it to the Big Fella could you please cc me in on it too, that is one email address I would love to have.

Thanks in Advance.
derty

Put me in too thanks Bigfella, could get long odds this far out so worth a punt. Though you never know with my ticker, could throw a wobbly anytime.

Go Big Jesus
 
and oh yeah, I saved that earthquake thread, every last one of you mockers and your posts! I have jpegs of every page of it. I knew to save it for the day that;s about to soon come upon you.....

Now you all have a nice big G'day and we'll chat a little more on this soon enough. 8)


Isnt it a little un-Christian to be so mean?

especially if you are a follower of Jesus, as I acknowledge the Old Testament can be fairly vengeful

If you are correctly predicting some day-of-judgement event, then we will all have plenty to worry about on the day ( including yourself) without recieving mocking emails
 
Isnt it a little un-Christian to be so mean?

especially if you are a follower of Jesus, as I acknowledge the Old Testament can be fairly vengeful

If you are correctly predicting some day-of-judgement event, then we will all have plenty to worry about on the day ( including yourself) without recieving mocking emails

I think WB is having a little foot-stamping episode because no-one takes him seriously. But he has set himself up to be mocked - just begging for it, so why is he surprised? He accuses us of having minds "built on presumption instead of investigation and hard facts". Hard facts????

Oh dear, I think the poor man should go back to handing out his leaflets on the west coast of USA where the earthquake and tsunami are going to hit.
 
Oh dear, I think the poor man should go back to handing out his leaflets on the west coast of USA where the earthquake and tsunami are going to hit.

Going to hit alright, a 100 foot wave of new paper dollar bills
 
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