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Anglo Boomers Destroyed the World

Wow - What a lovely spread of views!.
First the acknowledgements to Sir O & Julia - nicely balanced and retsrained viewpoints. sptrawler - nice rant! (Said all that I was thinking actually) and sinner; are you Charlie Pickering?

Just my two bob - evry generation is guilty of something in retrospect. 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing. Even Gen Y will be taken to task on their "performance" by Gen Z and whatever follows that. I'm guessing that prawn_86 would probably have behaved very similarly had he/she been there at the time.
As for referring to us all as "hippies", you need to be aware that hippies were a relatively small minority of "long-haired gits" in my Dad's venacular! I wasn't a hippie, I wasn't allowed to be one because my Dad (from the generation before who also buggered things up a bit) operated on the 'boot up the backside disciplne" level of offspring development (something else that has all but disappeared these days; not sure if that's a benefit though?).
Sure, we can all look back now and say, gee, maybe we could have done things better. Every generation has said the same. As for the old farts controlling the votes - no, that's what democratic elections are for. Didn't say they're doing a good job, just that we all got what was voted for - but that's another thread.
It's pretty easy to look back and criticise, but maybe we should look at the good things that did happen - there were a few. Technology advances, medicine, globalisation, the internet, social welfare, workplace reforms - there are positives to all of these. Sure, there are negatives too, but nothings ever perfect, there are always improvements to be made along the way.
We bb's were handed what we were handed and we did what we did. Now it's your turn to improve what's been left to you. Most of you "young'uns" seem to think you can do much better; well go ahead and do it better!
(Just quietly, all of us parents hope that you do and we'll all be remarkably proud of you when you do). Even my Dad said that all he ever wanted was for "you to have it better than I did". Thanks Dad, I did!
All the best
 
Clearly because it resonates with their perception of what is going on (right or wrong!), clearly not because they actually have read Plato.

So what I'm hearing is that you think I incorrectly took it out of context in some manner. That because I haven't devoted years of study towards ancient greek texts and don't have a PHD in Ancient Greek studies that somehow I'm not entitled to use that quote to draw a tangent. OK I'm always willing to learn Professor Sinner. Tell me what I did wrong.
Come off it dude.

Dude I'm not the one that came on the offensive and seems to want to get into some kind of stoush....you are. So what's your problem Sinner? Why do you feel the need to butt heads over something that seems so important to you and so trivial to me?
Errr, right. Ok Sir O, just wondering now if you've even read any of The Republic, let alone Book 4 :rolleyes:

Yeah ok, I suggest we discuss this one face to face so you can't google answers and spit them back verbatim :cautious:

I find the irony of this statement coming from you extremely amusing. Maybe you could take a leaf from the book of old farts like Hesiod and Plato, youngn.

See I just view all the above as posturing Sinner. You've not made any statement about why or how I used the quote in error, instead you are taking pot shots at me... You're too stupid to argue with me without Google in front of you. My brain is bigger than your brain and I don't need reference material. Ha har now I laugh at your stupidity and try and make you feel small by calling you names like youngn.

Not that this hasn't been fun and all Sinner but I'm not sure I can be bothered in talking with someone who attacks the person rather than the argument.

Cheers

Sir O
 
Wow - What a lovely spread of views!.
First the acknowledgements to Sir O & Julia - nicely balanced and retsrained viewpoints. sptrawler - nice rant! (Said all that I was thinking actually) and sinner; are you Charlie Pickering?

Just my two bob - evry generation is guilty of something in retrospect. 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing. Even Gen Y will be taken to task on their "performance" by Gen Z and whatever follows that. I'm guessing that prawn_86 would probably have behaved very similarly had he/she been there at the time.
As for referring to us all as "hippies", you need to be aware that hippies were a relatively small minority of "long-haired gits" in my Dad's venacular! I wasn't a hippie, I wasn't allowed to be one because my Dad (from the generation before who also buggered things up a bit) operated on the 'boot up the backside disciplne" level of offspring development (something else that has all but disappeared these days; not sure if that's a benefit though?).
Sure, we can all look back now and say, gee, maybe we could have done things better. Every generation has said the same. As for the old farts controlling the votes - no, that's what democratic elections are for. Didn't say they're doing a good job, just that we all got what was voted for - but that's another thread.
It's pretty easy to look back and criticise, but maybe we should look at the good things that did happen - there were a few. Technology advances, medicine, globalisation, the internet, social welfare, workplace reforms - there are positives to all of these. Sure, there are negatives too, but nothings ever perfect, there are always improvements to be made along the way.
We bb's were handed what we were handed and we did what we did. Now it's your turn to improve what's been left to you. Most of you "young'uns" seem to think you can do much better; well go ahead and do it better!
(Just quietly, all of us parents hope that you do and we'll all be remarkably proud of you when you do). Even my Dad said that all he ever wanted was for "you to have it better than I did". Thanks Dad, I did!
All the best

Well Greg, Lets not forget getting rid of conscription and introducing a single mothers pension, to enable abused wives to leave an abusive relationship. Prior to this women just had to accept being bashed and worse because there was no support for them. Then we abolished death duties, where the guvnmint took 40% of the value of a deceased estate. ISN'T THAT NICE SO OUR CHARMING AND GRATEFULL GENERATION Y's LIKE PRAWN_86 CAN GET MORE.
No I have to agree with you prawn_86 we certainly have failed, just we probably disagree with what the failure was. :mad:
 
All I want for my kids is what I got from my parents.
A good set of values, direction and momentum.

Does that sound lame?
 
Yes we have. Is a legitimising of drug use really what you think makes the world successful or otherwise??

Why would the hippies be on about free education and healthcare, since they and those somewhat before them had enjoyed both of these?

Sir O again makes the point that pretty much everything remains the same, however the current young generation likes to view it.
This might be something that can only be seen with maturity.

On this point, prawn, given that you are so disillusioned with the achievements or lack of same on the part of your forebears, what are your own plans to ensure that the generations which succeed you will not feel as you do now when you yourself are approaching retirement?
prawn, I'm hoping for a response from you on the above questions.
If you decline, could you say why?
 
Well Greg, Lets not forget getting rid of conscription and introducing a single mothers pension, to enable abused wives to leave an abusive relationship. Prior to this women just had to accept being bashed and worse because there was no support for them. Then we abolished death duties, where the guvnmint took 40% of the value of a deceased estate. ISN'T THAT NICE SO OUR CHARMING AND GRATEFULL GENERATION Y's LIKE PRAWN_86 CAN GET MORE.
No I have to agree with you prawn_86 we certainly have failed, just we probably disagree with what the failure was. :mad:

Hey prawn I am sorry for my rant, can you get back in touch, maybe I was a bit outspoken and I'm sorry for that. Just sometimes I think I am giving a lot and only hear from you when things are getting hard.
Is the Beemer playing up? I can change the oil and filter for you. The lawnmower man getting too expensive? I can chuck on the trailer and bring the lawn mower over and cut it for you.
By the way I bought a carton of Yuppie beer, so you don't have to drink my cheap midstrengh. How about it any chance of dropping over?
 
Well this is my last post on this thread.
As my late Dad said cut your cloth to suit your purse. Another thing he used to say was, you have one mouth and two ears, use them accordingly.
Thats over and out for me on this thread, :2twocents
 
I`m guessing its the BB`s in the media that started this generation warfare
they must be regretting it now :)
 
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