Amazing Hydrogen Invention

glenn_r · 5 November 2008

I did a Google after seeing his contraption and found this site.

http://www.water4gas.com.au/

Naked shorts · 5 November 2008

Sunder said:
Hydrogen is not exactly known to be a catalyst to hydrocarbon combustion, neither is oxygen, but who knows? Perhaps the raising of combustion temperature, since hydrogen burns a lot hotter than carbon, causes a cleaner more efficient burn.

Extremely unlikely, but not entirely outside the realm of possibility. I've seen some strange things happen in cars.

Perhaps it just helps stir the mixture of petrol and air up better!!

@ smurf1976
sorry, i didn't look over your post in closer detail, you have an excellent idea about welding, its just a pitty that distilled water is needed for electrosis and that doesn't come out of a tap. The two posts previous to mine made the extremely important point that, to get hydrogen from water, you need to put in more energy then you can get out.

Happy · 5 November 2008

Naked shorts said:
The two posts previous to mine made the extremely important point that, to get hydrogen from water, you need to put in more energy then you can get out.

If solar energy could be used for that, you could say that it doesn't matter how much energy is required.

basilio · 5 November 2008

This invention/innovation actually has good legs.

It doesn't pretend to replace the petrol that is used - it simply adds to the mixture and extends the fuel economy by 10-40%. Given that the cars alternator is always running the electricity produces the electrolysis does not consume more juice.

I had a look an independent website which did test the product. Its not perfect but a project that costs $100-200 and gives a real reduction in fuel consumption is a genuine innovation. It deserves more refinement.

http://www.certifiedmastertech.com/wordpress/2008/04/13/water-for-gas-scam/

ROE · 5 November 2008

Happy said:
If solar energy could be used for that, you could say that it doesn't matter how much energy is required.

if you fit the whole car with solar cell you may even have hard time split hydrogen from water

Splitting hydrogen from water is just a pipe dream for now, it consume so much energy it's not worth the effort.

fimmwolf · 5 November 2008

New Hydrogen fuel tank lighter than a battery pack

Dutch-sponsored researcher Robin Gremaud has shown that an alloy of the metals magnesium, titanium and nickel is excellent at absorbing hydrogen.

This light alloy brings us a step closer to the everyday use of hydrogen as a source of fuel for powering vehicles. A hydrogen 'tank' using this alloy would have a relative weight that is sixty percent less than a battery pack.

In order to find the best alloy Gremaud developed a method which enabled simultaneous testing of thousands of samples of different metals for their capacity to absorb hydrogen. The British company Ilika in Southampton has shown considerable interest.

Code:

http://www.physorg.com/news145013629.html

Sunder · 5 November 2008

basilio said:
This invention/innovation actually has good legs.

It doesn't pretend to replace the petrol that is used - it simply adds to the mixture and extends the fuel economy by 10-40%. Given that the cars alternator is always running the electricity produces the electrolysis does not consume more juice.

I had a look an independent website which did test the product. Its not perfect but a project that costs $100-200 and gives a real reduction in fuel consumption is a genuine innovation. It deserves more refinement.

http://www.certifiedmastertech.com/wordpress/2008/04/13/water-for-gas-scam/

Alternators can draw different loads at different times, and so draining more power from your system is less fuel efficient.

For some reason, these "independant" sites, seem to always have the same photos, same logos, and same diagrams from the original site, and very little other content. It was like a work from home scam I saw, where one site reviewed and recommended different work from home scams. I got a bit sus when it rated 2 as "10" and all the rest of them as 1s and 2s. I performed a whois on the three sites (the reviewer and the 2 winning sites), and they were all owned by the same company.

I'm still very sus, but I guess I may find out when I create my own.

Smurf1976 · 6 November 2008

Sunder said:
Alternators can draw different loads at different times, and so draining more power from your system is less fuel efficient.

The alternator simply converts mechanical power to electrical power and a bit of heat (losses). Bottom line is that yes, if you take more electrical power out then you need to put more mechanical power in since you're converting one to the other. And putting more power in will under most circumstances mean using more fuel.

That's certainly how it works in large power stations and it's also how it works with small portable petrol driven generators so I can't see why it would be any different with a car.

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