I'm sorry Gooner, but everyone in Australia has, has had, or will have, the opportunity to get out of the working class. If you don't like being in the working class, get out of it.
Why should one respect those who have given up on ambition?
So a boy born in Broadmeadows to a pair of junkies who abuse him, do not help him at school and the boy has a low IQ due to his parents drug abuse has an opportunity to get out of the working class?
By natural sporting ability perhaps, but no other way. I think you need to take those rose tinted glasses off. People's born circumstances and inherent ability are both pre-conditions to opportunity.
People are bought up to have no ambition, it is beaten out of them, laughed out of them etc at every time they show some. "I want to be a Doctor Dad". "Don't be f****** stupid son, you'll end up on the smack like me and Mum". "Hey Mum, I got an "A" in my maths paper". "Who f****** cares, won't do you any good round here, best you don't bother"
Lots of interesting discussion but I think we are missing the big question here people:
Is this true?
More generally, is it just me who is uncomfortable with a thread that basically takes the piss out of the working class for being, well, working class? Seems like a pretty easy target?
How about a thread on plutocrats who basically live the high life on their yachts on the backs of the working class?
I also live the high life as well. Does this make me unbogan?
I think the term describing yourself TS is 'bogan chic'
NEVER would I let anybody drive out my ambition to succeed. I looked at my earlier surrounds and DECIDED that this was the perfect example of WHAT NOT TO BECOME. This made me driven to get me where I am today.
I forgot to add that I have tattoos and I got them BEFORE tattoos became fashionable.
p.s. I have tattoos too, can I join your club
I forgot to add that I have tattoos and I got them BEFORE tattoos became fashionable.
So a boy born in Broadmeadows to a pair of junkies who abuse him, do not help him at school and the boy has a low IQ due to his parents drug abuse has an opportunity to get out of the working class?
By natural sporting ability perhaps, but no other way. I think you need to take those rose tinted glasses off. People's born circumstances and inherent ability are both pre-conditions to opportunity.
People are bought up to have no ambition, it is beaten out of them, laughed out of them etc at every time they show some. "I want to be a Doctor Dad". "Don't be f****** stupid son, you'll end up on the smack like me and Mum". "Hey Mum, I got an "A" in my maths paper". "Who f****** cares, won't do you any good round here, best you don't bother"
But you didn't answer my question; why should those people who have no ambition be treated with the same respect as those who do have great ambition?!
Obtaining the respect that comes with great ambition can be a big motivating factor.
then they should all be treated with the same respect. Someone who is a street sweeper/council worker/insert stereotypical low paid job here, might be happy doing this and if that is the case, good on them
It's OK Timmy ... Craig Lowndes will be back at Holden next year.
The mining/ construction boom created a new breed of bogan. The cashed up bogan. The suits in the perth qantas club suddenly didnt feel so schmick.
Them were the days.
Yep, we were in the Perth Qantas Club in January and the clientele definately weren't wearing suits, but did have big heavy boots!
Your partner, if she is a feminist, might consider that you are a male chauvinist pig for considering her the property of her father. And may call the whole thing off.So think before you speak.
My partner is not some whinging feminist, and I am not a chauvinist pig. Where did I say I considered her property of her father? Also, her father skipped out on her (and her family) when she was a child - she would be lucky to see him once a year these days... So I will not be asking her father. I will be asking her mother. And I will be not asking "permission", I will simply ask if I have her blessing.
I know my partner's mother well and I know what the answer will be. It shows respect, and I know both my partner and her mother will appreciate it. But I understand this situation may not suit other peoples circumstances.
So maybe it is you who needs "to think before you speak"...
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