All Things Bogan Thread

[gooner]

I'm sorry Gooner, but everyone in Australia has, has had, or will have, the opportunity to get out of the working class. If you don't like being in the working class, get out of it.

Why should one respect those who have given up on ambition?

So a boy born in Broadmeadows to a pair of junkies who abuse him, do not help him at school and the boy has a low IQ due to his parents drug abuse has an opportunity to get out of the working class?

By natural sporting ability perhaps, but no other way. I think you need to take those rose tinted glasses off. People's born circumstances and inherent ability are both pre-conditions to opportunity.

People are bought up to have no ambition, it is beaten out of them, laughed out of them etc at every time they show some. "I want to be a Doctor Dad". "Don't be f****** stupid son, you'll end up on the smack like me and Mum". "Hey Mum, I got an "A" in my maths paper". "Who f****** cares, won't do you any good round here, best you don't bother"

 

[trainspotter]

So a boy born in Broadmeadows to a pair of junkies who abuse him, do not help him at school and the boy has a low IQ due to his parents drug abuse has an opportunity to get out of the working class?

By natural sporting ability perhaps, but no other way. I think you need to take those rose tinted glasses off. People's born circumstances and inherent ability are both pre-conditions to opportunity.

People are bought up to have no ambition, it is beaten out of them, laughed out of them etc at every time they show some. "I want to be a Doctor Dad". "Don't be f****** stupid son, you'll end up on the smack like me and Mum". "Hey Mum, I got an "A" in my maths paper". "Who f****** cares, won't do you any good round here, best you don't bother"

Ummmm .... Gooner, I left school and home at 15 years of age. Failed everything scholastic. My home life was FAR from what you would call normal ! I was ridiculed and beaten down on every occasion. ZERO financial help from anyone and everything I own was either made from my own hands or purchased from being paid through sheer hard work.

NEVER would I let anybody drive out my ambition to succeed. I looked at my earlier surrounds and DECIDED that this was the perfect example of WHAT NOT TO BECOME. This made me driven to get me where I am today.

 

[trainspotter]

Lots of interesting discussion but I think we are missing the big question here people:

Is this true?

Yes Timmy and Jamie Whincup is joining him over in the darkside. 888 racing is changing to Holdens. YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRR !!

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,20797,25848657-5012789,00.html

 

[trainspotter]

More generally, is it just me who is uncomfortable with a thread that basically takes the piss out of the working class for being, well, working class? Seems like a pretty easy target?

How about a thread on plutocrats who basically live the high life on their yachts on the backs of the working class?

You have got to be kidding me Gooner?? ARE YOU A UNION REP? The working class????????? The plutocrats living off the backs of the working class????????????? Seriously, you are in another world with your thinking!! We are no longer working 16 hour days down a coal mine with a canary for security. We are no longer working in sweatshops and sleeping on the floor next to our machines. Sounds to me like you are a "ships lawyer". First to complain about everything and turn the workforce against the person who pays them. Remember without the person taking the risks at the pointy end paying the cheques, the "working class" don't get paid. FAIL.

This thread is to CELEBRATE everything bogan. I am a bogan. I have a hot car. I like to do burn outs. I like to do "bog laps" up the main street. I go to the drags. I go to the speedway. I smoke Winnie Blues (a packet a day) I drink bourbon. I own lotsa flannel shirts and black stovepipe jeans. I wear ugg boots. My mates are bogans. Easy target !!

I also live the high life as well. Does this make me unbogan?

 

[prawn_86]

I also live the high life as well. Does this make me unbogan?

I think the term describing yourself TS is 'bogan chic'

 

[Quincy]

Bogans love picnics

 

[trainspotter]

I think the term describing yourself TS is 'bogan chic'

I forgot to add that I have tattoos and I got them BEFORE tattoos became fashionable. Ooooooooooohhh those bogans ! LOL @ 'bogan chic' Could well be a new terminology to the english language you have invented there prawn_86.

 

[gfresh]

NEVER would I let anybody drive out my ambition to succeed. I looked at my earlier surrounds and DECIDED that this was the perfect example of WHAT NOT TO BECOME. This made me driven to get me where I am today.

Exactly the same for me... I got sick of my parents telling me "no we can't afford that", or "no we're not buying a big screen TV, we can't afford it" (for the time that might have been a whole 68cm but still), and some hard times in my younger life due to basically being, well, poor.

So I made sure I worked hard at study, and worked as hard as possible, so I could get a degree and get a reasonable career and get out of that sort of lifestyle. And now I can afford many of those things I never had then, and this was through being stronger than those around me, and not letting environment pull me down.

p.s. I have tattoos too, can I join your club

 

[gooner]

I forgot to add that I have tattoos and I got them BEFORE tattoos became fashionable.

p.s. I have tattoos too, can I join your club

Ah, Tattoos, or "Criminal Identifiers" as they are known to the police. Amazing how many people get a distinctive tattoo and then do not cover it when doing an armed robbery. Guess you two have been lucky so far

 

[wayneL]

I forgot to add that I have tattoos and I got them BEFORE tattoos became fashionable.

Tattoos are now so common that they're respectable, it's us small minority of tattoo free who are the rebels now.

 

[Naked shorts]

So a boy born in Broadmeadows to a pair of junkies who abuse him, do not help him at school and the boy has a low IQ due to his parents drug abuse has an opportunity to get out of the working class?
By natural sporting ability perhaps, but no other way. I think you need to take those rose tinted glasses off. People's born circumstances and inherent ability are both pre-conditions to opportunity.
People are bought up to have no ambition, it is beaten out of them, laughed out of them etc at every time they show some. "I want to be a Doctor Dad". "Don't be f****** stupid son, you'll end up on the smack like me and Mum". "Hey Mum, I got an "A" in my maths paper". "Who f****** cares, won't do you any good round here, best you don't bother"

But you didn't answer my question; why should those people who have no ambition be treated with the same respect as those who do have great ambition?!

Obtaining the respect that comes with great ambition can be a big motivating factor.

 

[nunthewiser]

reckons "mr farenheight " ......queen .............is a great bogan song

 

[prawn_86]

But you didn't answer my question; why should those people who have no ambition be treated with the same respect as those who do have great ambition?!

Obtaining the respect that comes with great ambition can be a big motivating factor.

I guess it depends on your definition of ambition.

Providing they are working or seriously trying to find work, not just constantly on the dole, then they should all be treated with the same respect. Someone who is a street sweeper/council worker/insert stereotypical low paid job here, might be happy doing this and if that is the case, good on them

 

[nunthewiser]

then they should all be treated with the same respect. Someone who is a street sweeper/council worker/insert stereotypical low paid job here, might be happy doing this and if that is the case, good on them

and where would we be without them ? ......... they hold up the country dont they ? without them things stop ...........

blessem all i say

 

[overit]

The mining/ construction boom created a new breed of bogan. The cashed up bogan. The suits in the perth qantas club suddenly didnt feel so schmick.

Them were the days.

 

[GumbyLearner]

It's OK Timmy ... Craig Lowndes will be back at Holden next year.

I have been in the presence of many famous sporting, entertainment and political industry people in the past. Rarely have any taken the time or maybe had the opportunity to speak with me personally.

Can honestly say I've met Craig Lowndes. It was roughly 13-14 years ago at the Brisbane Convention & Exhibition Centre. My job that day was dissembling marquees for an Auto show.

I walked past and he said "G'day mate. How are you?"

A real person for sure.

I wish I had more time to ask him how I could have improved my circle-work technique.

 

[Prospector]

Peter Brock sat with my two sons, shared a coke with them and chatted for about half an hour, watching several different Australian teams play cricket.

Of course, we were in highly secure enclave of the Athletes Village for the Sydney Olympics at the time, so that did give us an advantage. But he was genuinely lovely with them. He didnt have to do what he did.

The mining/ construction boom created a new breed of bogan. The cashed up bogan. The suits in the perth qantas club suddenly didnt feel so schmick.

Them were the days.

Yep, we were in the Perth Qantas Club in January and the clientele definately weren't wearing suits, but did have big heavy boots!

 

[gooner]

Yep, we were in the Perth Qantas Club in January and the clientele definately weren't wearing suits, but did have big heavy boots!

Word probably went round that you could easily get your Qantas Club investment back in free grog, given the amount of fly in fly out these guys do.

 

[gav]

Your partner, if she is a feminist, might consider that you are a male chauvinist pig for considering her the property of her father. And may call the whole thing off. So think before you speak.

Where did I say I considered my partner to be property of her father? Her father skipped out on her (and her family) when she was a child. She would be lucky to see him once a year these days... So I will not be asking her father. I will be asking her mother. And I will be not asking "permission", I will simply ask if I have her blessing.

I know my partner's mother well and I know what the answer will be. It shows respect, and I know both my partner and her mother will appreciate it. But I understand this situation may not suit other peoples circumstances.

So maybe it is you who needs "to think before you speak"...

 

[GumbyLearner]

My partner is not some whinging feminist, and I am not a chauvinist pig. Where did I say I considered her property of her father? Also, her father skipped out on her (and her family) when she was a child - she would be lucky to see him once a year these days... So I will not be asking her father. I will be asking her mother. And I will be not asking "permission", I will simply ask if I have her blessing.

I know my partner's mother well and I know what the answer will be. It shows respect, and I know both my partner and her mother will appreciate it. But I understand this situation may not suit other peoples circumstances.

So maybe it is you who needs "to think before you speak"...

Well said gav.