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GreatPig

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Aristocrat Leisure has jumped up this morning. Currently Yahoo is showing it as up 71 cents, or about 13%.

It was going nicely for me already, but this is a surprise bonus if it can hold the gain .

Cheers,
GP
 
It's now up by more than 20%. Can it hold the price at the end of the day?

GP
 
Re: ALL jumps up 4% today

Its charging like a champion..

got some contracts in philipines..

trying to tap into the china market.. if it secures that some big profits,. they would love poker machines.

great technicals..

lots of good write ups in the media and have been picked as a great long term stock.
 
What happened here?

Wasn't very pretty on my call warrant. Probably should have sold it yesterday I guess.

Cheers,
GP
 

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Now, just to add salt to the wound, after selling the warrant at a significant loss, the price has recovered and just touched $13 today.

Seems to be the story of my life of late...

GP
 
anyone shorting ALL now?
It went from 14 down to 13.74 in just a few days. When All Ords up, it still got stuck around 13.9, with more tendency of falling down sharply.
 
The larger scale trend seems to be up to me, and it's been trading sideways for a few weeks--just a pullback?
 
swingstar,
thanks, however i think ALL may be in play by someone, as volume is too low. Luckily today I sold at 13.55, having bought at 13.9 few days ago.

do u think it's good time to short ORG (Origin Energy) now? I love ORG for shorting.

Is that a MACD line that u always use for your analysis.
 

Not sure about ORG... personally I don't see any trades, but you might with your system.

I only use one indicator: RSI divergence. It's important to know what it's signifying and when it may be useful if you wish to use it.
 
why did ALL went up today? volume is so low less than 200,000. I think some bastards inside are playing it. Maybe its a good time to short it down!
 
Came across this article this morning, fantastic honours for Aristocrat could further enhance companies reputation.

 
Hi all

Aristocrat looks like to be in a downtrend. Does anyone know why?

Even when they reported a profit increase last week the stock went from 13.55 down to 12.7 in 1 day.

Whats happening? How much do you think the stock is worth?
 
Potential change of trend here (and I stress only potential!!!).....

Nice close, cross of MACD after nice high volume, ADX now positive......

The report was quite good, 20% EPS growth for the half year, these guys are cash machines...... However, their valuation is always relatively high, which is typical of the industry..

They will be a little constrained to buy back capital however - In accordance with Corporations act, I didn't think you could buy back your own shares if you don't have any share capital left on your books - share capital for ALL at present is a piddly 1.2 Mil - these guys are one of the best managers of capital going around...

Cheers
Reece
 

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Thanks Reece. Looks pretty good to me too chart wise.

The 'ethical kennas' has never seriously considered them to my financial detriment perhaps. On the scale of ethical investments I put them up there with tobacco companies. Or, maybe I'm just being politically correct.
 
ALL -

I am thinking 2 things here!

Where is the bottom for ALL?

What are the dividends?


Now, from where I sit ALL is a top 50 company. So we are not talking up a your centre bet down on the corner.

This is a billion dollar company $5 billion approx.

My theory is this must be seen as a long term buying opportunity, just like MBL, and BNB where when they tanked over the credit crunch.

ALL is still going to be making big profits, paying dividends etc.

The question is what price to enter at. I think anything under $11.00 is good value as the fundamentals stack up.

If we see anything under $10 we are wiping off growth from 2004/2005.

MOST IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE -

ALL is effected by currency so a poor US $$$ is not good for this company.

However, the company is still expecting 20% growth per annum.

I would put this on the watch list.

This was a $17 stock now $10.70. The last blue chip stock to lose such ground was Rinker, and we all know what happened to Rinker.

I would be happy for PBL to come in buy ALL for $14, and I would say thats very possible.

MY experience tells me that listed stocks in the top 50 become takeover targets if they fall on fear.

Lets wait and see.

I hold as of 2 day.
 

Ken
I would suggest you re-read the financial release - the revised outlook is 10% growth on a like for like basis (i.e. in local exchange dollars), so FX adjusted financial's could come in under this.

It was potentially looking good (T/A wise) a little while ago, but the recovery was short lived.

My opinion - if it's growing at 10% like for like and is experiencing difficult trading conditions, then even at $11 the valuation is high - don't go picking bottoms, this is a good Company with great long term prospects, but I would wait a little bit before getting on this one, there has been a fair bit of damge from a technical point of view....

All the best....
Reece
 
Hmm good advice.

I did some further research and have noted that this stock was below $1.00 in 2004.

So its up over 1000% in 3 years.


Does that make me uncomfortable holding... a little.

Picking bottoms is dangerous.

Thanks for the advice will take it on board.
 
Been a while since anyone has had a look at this sleeping giant......

T/A- Nice rebuilding price action, with bottom forming at about 8.80. We are now starting to see longish term divergence on MACD and ADX in positive. Triangle formation looks like a break should come soon, although Firday's price action wasn't really positive.....

Fundamentals - My base case scenario of 12% growth in perpetuity gives a price target of a bit over 12.00, about 30% more than current prices. Worst case scenario of 8% gives a valuation of 8.30 ish and best case of 18% growth at over $20. Like most largish stocks at the moment, it appears the market is erring on the cautious side.

Personally, a positive break out of the triangle would tempt me into a position, with a target of a bit under $13, which would appear to be the first resistance point after the breakdown in October 07. Logical stop would be a bit under 8.80.

Cheers
 

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I just jumped on board ALL on Friday actually with at a price of $9.80. Im comforted by the fact when I go out to the pub with mates and they all jump on the pokies hopefully a little of that should come back to me. They are trading on a decent yield at the moment as well and its always helpful to have a casino/gambling stock in the portfolio. I hope the TA is correct would be nice to finally profit on a stock in this market
 

Some advise from someone who works in the gaming indusrty. I spoke to an Aristocrat sales rep last week and he said its been the hardest time lately trying to sell equipment that he had seen in 15 years. With a looming recession or at the very least a downturn the gaming industry will feel the pinch very hard. The saving grace for Aristocrat will be their overseas sales particularly in Asia but whether that will be enough to significantly move up their SP is open to conjecture.
 
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