jet theres no skew about it.
If AUt have 10 wells of post hilcorp cashflow and ADI have three which do you think will be able to fund more drilling.
In the second year if AUT have significantly more wells, possibly 3-4 times as many, which do you think will have more cash fklow for the following year.
Its not rocket science. If you chose to ignore or disagree with what i regard as this fact thats absolutely 100% fine, but dont say you where not warned or whinge that ADI is not keeping up with AUt, which has been the case lately.
Just do yourself a favour and go into it with eyes wide open.
I have , in recent months sold SEA, ADI, AZZ and EKA plus a few others and put all funds into AUt, not because i have any allegiance with AUt over the others, but because i did enough research and have enough experience to know whats happening. Its a game of multiple and leverage. AUT has it all, with the derisked capacity the Eagleford now provides.
Do as you will, but please know whats happening its so blatently obvious.
jet theres no skew about it.
If AUt have 10 wells of post hilcorp cashflow and ADI have three which do you think will be able to fund more drilling.
In the second year if AUT have significantly more wells, possibly 3-4 times as many, which do you think will have more cash fklow for the following year.
Its not rocket science. If you chose to ignore or disagree with what i regard as this fact thats absolutely 100% fine, but dont say you where not warned or whinge that ADI is not keeping up with AUt, which has been the case lately.
Just do yourself a favour and go into it with eyes wide open.
I have , in recent months sold SEA, ADI, AZZ and EKA plus a few others and put all funds into AUt, not because i have any allegiance with AUt over the others, but because i did enough research and have enough experience to know whats happening. Its a game of multiple and leverage. AUT has it all, with the derisked capacity the Eagleford now provides.
Do as you will, but please know whats happening its so blatently obvious.
Thats cool guys - you all got the message loud and clear. Your making your own investment decisions based on your opionion and research which is fine.
Hope for your sakes your right.
By the way acerage is no longer an issue at all. With so much demand for the acerage a farmi-in partner would be instantly found if capital was required and would come at a pretty good price.
Actually it was Lemontree who suggested possible rotation out of ADI into AUT. I noted that on the basis of the trading volumes in the two stocks, rotation would have had only a minor effect on AUT's sp - there was a lot more new buying.
The relativity between ADI and AUT (and EKA for that matter) is an interesting subject. While there are the fundamental considerations that have been well described already, there is also a technical aspect. The attached PairTradeFinder charts (see separate thread for PairTradeFinder details) show a definite cyclical pattern in the relativity between ADI and AUT - at the moment it could be argued that ADI is on the verge of reasserting itself against AUT.
There is, of course, no guarrantee that the historical pattern will repeat, so I'm not sure if this helps or not - but there it is.
What the charts don't show s the daily fluctuations in the Relative SPs. It is usually possible to buy at lower than the closing price and sell at higher than the closing price. I usually have a high buy order or a low sell order placed and wait for its execution. eg. I bought some ADI at 26c both today and yesterday ( which is marginally lower than the average price during that time) after selling at 30c 3 weeks ago. I had to wait 3 weeks to replace them but I did end up with a few thousand more freebies.During that 3 weeks I used the funds to turnover EKA for a few freebies there too.
Condog I'm pretty sure we all know that AUT is going to create a gap from the other JVP's with Longhorn and Ipenama being drilled, however I do think with the recent marketing and promotion that AUT has been doing is the reason we are seeing an increasing number of trades over the past few days not there additional acreage (which has been known for some time now). Maybe the other JVP's can take a leaf out AUT's book and start promoting and marketing themselves as AUT is presently doing, good on the AUT BOD.
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Yep agree there. This has been on goat for a while. While its great to have a company thats not rampng itself and playing its cards close to its chest with very smooth and calculated announcements, there is nothing wrong with a bit of self promotion. i know, fine line between self promotion and ramping. under promotion can be just as worthless as self ramping.....
Not quite so obvious Condog,
No one knows what the forward plan is for hilcorp or how these fracced wells will produce.
They may pay back Hilcorp in 2-3 months or it may be longer...so AUT may be waiting longer for cashflow. Remember AUT only get paid once Hilcorp have re-couped their driling and fraccing costs.
Ever here the story about the small players being drilled out, with AUT's added percentage for their additional acreage comes additional risk associated with their ability in keeping up with capital requirements...no one really knows what Hilcorps forward plan is. Hilcorp will not wait for AUT to raise money if they decide to go nuts!! Look at how quickly they are smashing the wells at the moment. Who is to say how fast they accelerate their drilling program. The presentation from AUT provides a nice little schedule for forward drilling but none of the JVP I talk to can give me any indication of what the real forward plan for Hilcorp is.
I wouldnt be so confident in telling people what is blantently obvious when it is far from so....AUT may have more blue sky based on their acreage but be careful...as you say go in with your eyes wide open...LOL
con, you might find that I dont whinge about what I invest in. Its great that you can swap and change your holdings in various companys.
You got this razzle n dazzle thing going on like a sideshow vendor. Tomcat shares the same opinion on your simplistic well acceleration.
Look into how the jvp's are going to manage the acerage, I know thats foremost with ADI management and they would concur that AUT will need a huge deal of cash to go forward/manage their lease and more than likely their portion of wells to be drilled.
This is no sledge on AUT management just my opinion.
The presentation from AUT certainly got the desired result.
As for the do yourself a favour with the eyes wide open, yeaah right,,,lol.
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