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ABS - ABC Learning Centres

Reflections on a stock market dog . . .

As a long-time supporter of ABS I think it’s time to reflect on past mistakes and offer my opinion about the current situation and the future prospects for ABS.

Firstly, I share my lessons learned:

1) Transparency is a very valuable thing and all the analysis in the world cannot save you when management is not disclosing important information. When management comes clean after the event (look at the multiple revisions to 1H 07-08 numbers) it destroys all credibility. Transparency is still pathetic (and this only becomes a problem in a bear market, catching out the herd, including myself!).

2) High debt. While I am still a big supporter of leveraging a sound business, ABS highlights the need for basic project evaluation and cost of capital hurdles to be applied to investment choices. Eg. The US expansion, new centre openings/closures. Management has a TOTAL lack of financial discipline, combined with their high gearing was a recipe for disaster. It seems management has not conducted any sort of sensitivity analysis on their business model (exchange rates, margins, demand etc). Again, this is something that only comes to light in a bear market and congratulations to the few that identified these risks – I hope your shorts rewarded you handsomely, I’m sure they did. I am surprised that such a ‘defensive’ industry would lead the market in the downturn/bear market we are experiencing.

3) Shoddy business model. Only recently have we heard the full extent of the developer subsidies to ABS – but still lack any idea of their impact on the bottom line going forward. Perhaps due to management distractions, or incompetence, ABS was unable to convert its remarkable revenue growth into earnings. One of my primary reasons for investing in ABS was the expectation that they would successfully consolidate their businesses to drive margins up and deliver earnings growth (it is ironic perhaps, that this was the motivation for MSPE's stake in ABC US!). In this area ABS failed, and hence their model failed. I think this reflects management incompetence (inability to respond to market conditions, anticipate change), distractions such as the overseas expansion and neglect of the Australian business.

4) Personally: Over-reliance on EPS-driven valuation, rather than considering other measures more. In hindsight, ABS has cleverly/(deceitfully?) inflated their earnings numbers through tricky accounting and the ‘developer fees’ – showing valuation models are only as good as the accounting numbers underlying them. This is a lesson I won’t forget.

Thoughts at present:

- very interesting report published by Comsec that questioned the effects of the removal of the RMC structure on the value of licences and the unwinding of the developer fee model: very pessimistic indeed. But their DCF valuation (which has upped the discount rate and been quite harsh in their assessment of future CF's, still gives ABS a DCF considerably higher than the current SP).

- I find it interesting that management decided to divest a stake in the US business and divest other non-core assets when it was value-destructive and it was not being forced for by its bankers (another example of a total lack of regard for shareholders and failure to make basic financial decisions). I feel this was knee-jerk, but given it occurred in the height of the sub-prime collapse and the market was at its most fickle – doing nothing may have proved more fatal.

- This begs the question: was the business sustainable without the divestments? I believe it was and I also believe management thought it was. In a conversion with MSPE, it was suggested to me that the motivation of the sale was to ‘show’ the market what ABS’ US assets were worth (note the frequent comparisons to the Bright Horizons sale) - so the market would start valuing the entire company on that multiple. Very interestingly, MSPE’s basis for making the investment centres around ABS ability to drive margin improvement in the US business at a time when margins are being crunched in the Australian business. If MSPE feels profit margins can grow during increasing unemployment in the US – why did ABS not consider divesting some Australian/NZ centres (where the multiples would have been much higher and there would be no currency write-downs?)?
- Groves paid the ultimate price for running a business with no financial discipline and dodgy accounting. It was being run like a family business not a public company. I hope that this changes.

What do I think about ABS now?

- Well I totally concede that ABS was and is a poor investment for a start. I think many would have overlooked a lack of transparency (during the ‘boom’ times) and lack of quality accounting information.

- I think the attempts at better disclosure have been encouraging – but management needs to show that they are financially disciplined and focussed on shareholder returns. They are so unwilling to come up with forecasted numbers, not that the market could take them seriously anyway (given the misleading nature of ABS vehement maintenance of its 15%+ growth forecast until the US sale).

- I would like to see Eddy out and a CEO with a track record of sound investment decisions brought in.

- I don’t think ABS will buy back the US business and if it does it will probably overpay due to the conditions placed on the call option by MSPE, the likelihood of a lower AUD by the expiry date and the high chance of expansion in the US labour market by the expiry date.

- ABS is still a highly levered business, so a turn-around in the AUS businesses is the only hope of ABS ever selling for $8+ per share (obvious). But due to developer fees, any COP improvement in the subsidies centres will not be EPS accretive (it will only replace the developer subsidies). At least the end of the developer model will force ABS management into applying financial decision criteria on centre acquisitions/closures – so we have some assurance the management attitude of growing top line growth (at the explicit expense of the bottom line) has come to an end. ABS may take several years to work through its excesses in the past.

- I do not expect a positive return on ABS until ALL the skeletons are out of the closet and we have a 2008-9 forecast (which is post-developer fees and post-RMC removal) – this will be extremely telling. Less exposure to the US, for the short-term is a positive for ABS. My outlook is to ‘wait-and-see’ until some idea of FY08-09 earnings come to light. I think down-side is limited because the market is probably (sensibly) pricing in, to some extent, the risks surrounding rest of the undisclosed information (about AUS margins and the impact of changes to the business model) – it would be wise to do so given the management attitude towards shareholders/transparency.

- A speculative investment in ABS could be considered in 12-18 months time. I don't think the new/re-entering investor will miss out on much by waiting. While the shares are unlikely to go lower than $1.15 they are equally unlikely to head over $2.
 
Great thought provoking response above. So why did it dive 20c today to fall under $1?

This was one of my first ever buys, i got in nice and low, just above $1 and missed selling when it near on hit $2 6 weeks ago.

Is it because of the placement for more cash is a worrying sign?
 
It feel below $1 because ABC Learning Centre issued a private capital raising with Morgan Stanely to the tune of $80m at $1.15 a share.
 
It feel below $1 because ABC Learning Centre issued a private capital raising with Morgan Stanely to the tune of $80m at $1.15 a share.

I am surprised there are no comments given it has been so much in the media recently. Maybe the news is so bad no one wants to talk about ABS anymore.

Can ABS make money or does it have too much debt ?:confused:

Thanks,
PETEAI
 
I am surprised there are no comments given it has been so much in the media recently. Maybe the news is so bad no one wants to talk about ABS anymore.

Can ABS make money or does it have too much debt ?:confused:

Thanks,
PETEAI


Apologies to Brendan87. for not reading your post before my previous comment:eek:

You have provided an excellent, intelligent analysis.
Wish you the best in all your future investments.

Cheers,
PETEAI
 
Nothing like a bit of good news to get me out of trouble. Hit a intraday high a few moments ago of $1.01 after announcing the US sale has gone thru. Thats up from a mid weekly low of mid .60's
 
Wow ... what a morning for ABS.

I expected a bit of a surge but nothing like this!

I had been sitting on the sidelines waiting for some stability before thinking about dipping in ... bit of a bummer I didn't get in when I was going to (70c) but hindsight is always 20/20.

It's up a lot on good volume too - will be interesting to see what happens in the coming days and weeks - whether it can sustain it or not.
 
Wow ... what a morning for ABS.

I expected a bit of a surge but nothing like this!

I had been sitting on the sidelines waiting for some stability before thinking about dipping in ... bit of a bummer I didn't get in when I was going to (70c) but hindsight is always 20/20.

It's up a lot on good volume too - will be interesting to see what happens in the coming days and weeks - whether it can sustain it or not.

as a side line watcher i need and it needs more time to re-group and get the debts to a manageable level

dion-i argee it needs to be sustain-how long well we will have to wait and c

even if today's % are good-its got a long way to go in my books

Thanks

Nick--
 
Goes to show, every dog has its day. ABS sold hard due to overseas credit uncertainties, poor sentiment and clustered tax selling. I will holders well. This wont be an easy ride.
 
I holding also.

Must say I was disappointed not to get out of this today. Stopped chasing this down at $1.05

Bought a huge lot at 67c to go with the $1.32 I bought prior.

Hope to see it continue to rise a bit more tomorrow. :D
 
This is what i think-

correct me if i am wrong-

i dont trust eddie-i feel that he is to interested in making money for himself rather then focus on the business it self and its share holders-


i heard yesterday he does not want any abs share's but options itself?

Eddie how about fixing the debt and focusing on the business-and maybe the sp might make a move north

does anyone here think i am talking rubbish-

i been watching him and i just feel that their is something he is not saying or their is worst to come for them-

Anyone ?

Thanks

Nick--
 
This is what i think-

correct me if i am wrong-

i dont trust eddie-i feel that he is to interested in making money for himself rather then focus on the business it self and its share holders-


i heard yesterday he does not want any abs share's but options itself?

Eddie how about fixing the debt and focusing on the business-and maybe the sp might make a move north

does anyone here think i am talking rubbish-

i been watching him and i just feel that their is something he is not saying or their is worst to come for them-

Anyone ?

Thanks

Nick--


Very dodgy arrangement if you ask me... that arrangement is purely to benefit Eddie to get back his lost million in the margin call.
 
My view is you need to ask one question right now on the subject of why Eddie Groves has taken options.

EG has forsaken his entire years salary and Le Neve half ($300k of her $600k salary) in return for options. The question to ask is if you could have $1million cash in the hand or take options in a company on the slide, what would you do?

EG and LG have risked around about $1m cash on the fact that the options when converted will be worth more. Why would they do that? Eddie G opwns around $3k of stock in ABS currently so surely he must have some strong belief in the stock or he would take the money and run.:2twocents
 
The numbers are the same however with a different set of eyes the news is now

Additional loss (write down $213 million), no final dividend and declare a full-year pre-tax loss.

Transparency may or may not save them now. Still going to spend $165 million to buy 110 new centres in 2009 with an additional $45 million on refurbishments. 2010 they will buy 70 centres for $80 million in 2010 and spend $17 million on refurbishments.

So some growth and with any luck some positive eps based on the first 3 weeks of this fy.

Alas this one doesnt present anything like an acceptable risk/profit profile at the moment.

I do hope they get through and turn things around which they have made some ground on but a long way to go.

They have also had a fair bit of rationalisation administratively to reduce administrative costs so they are doing a lot and appear to be getting some good advice at the moment.
 
on trading halt, anyone got any reasoning? Assume its bad news? I thought the price was already fairly bad, pray that tuesday is a good day and not another record bad day.
ta:(
 
From what they closed at the day before the halt i'd say it's definately not going to be positive but how much lower could they go!!
I've taken a bath on them and only bought in a few month's ago, gotta feel sorry for anyone still holding that bought in at the top...
 
I have questions on the developer model and hopefully someone in this forum is able to answer:

(1) It seems that this was a way for ABS to quickly expand its business by leveraging the resources of the individual developers. I see nothing wrong in it. However, I am rather confused as to (a) whether ABS received the developer fee in cash ($73.3m in 1H08) or simply capitalised the fee into intangibles which is never amortised anyway, (b) whether ABS operated those centres itself, thus paying for the operating expenses and (c) when those centres were "transferred" to ABS, whether ABS paid cash or reversed some of the amount in the intangibles. In short, does ABS finance the individual developers?

(2) How big is total outstanding developer projects? If it is a relatively new business model, the size should not be significant.

(3) I read an article that this developer fee is what boosted the earnings in 1H/08 which otherwise would have been loss making. I tend to disagree as in 1H/07, ABS was already profitable without such fee. Unless the business has deteriorated significantly from 1H/07. Any opinion on this?

Thank you.
 
Last night's (26/8/2008) ABC 7.30 report tried to shed some light on this organisation. Some of the concerns raised included;

- lack of transparancy on underlying core revenues/earnings
- claims that the company hasn't had a true profit since 2006
- claims of significant transactions with organisations controlled by Eddie's brother-in-law / girlfriend ($70m per annum for services)
- significant debt $1b+ due in 2 years (but may be repayable sooner depending on covenants)
- history of overpaying for acquisitions and subsequent levels of intangibles on balance sheet

The restatement of prior year earnings and other disclosures expected once the company comes out of suspension will make very interesting reading.
 
after watching 7.30 report, last night

and many previous articles re there business model

this company is the deadest of dead ducks.

God only knows what will happen to keep the doors open, for the little kiddies

parents will go ballistic if they shut the doors.

they are in a market dominant position.

they haved achieved this by buying up as many CC centres as possible, to make them market dominant..many reports of owners being made "offers to good to refuse"..or we will build one anyway and send u broke.

so now

Paid way to much for assets
On cheap borrowed money
Income way short of expenses
Fiddled the books?

sounds like they are insolvent, and if they arent able to pay wages??, unless banks extend further finance.

u can bet yr ass no foreign bank will want to.

CBA will be absolutely critical to thier survival

i expect SP will fall even further.

this is only my opinion, based on what i have read.
hope i am wrong
 
The biggest worry is for the kids who attend these centres. Government has helped create this monster ABC. Sallyanne Atkinson - did you notice her offloading her shares over the years? I think she knew about all of the fixing of the books. She left before the .... hit the fan. Move on with all of your money Sallyanne - you were responsible for quite a bit of the overseas expansions which sent ABC broke (along with fast Eddy).

I think they all lost sight of the most important thing - the kids! It is a very sad state of affairs. :mad:

Who were the auditors by the way? Fairly bad job there IMO.

Edit: the auditors were Pitcher Partners (never heard of them) until Ernst & Young took over to bring the rot out of the cupboard early this year.
 
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