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Aboriginal?



looks that I am not alone with my suspicions of insignificance of the rulling.


From above:

you could well find that if a native title were found to be a bona fide claim and lawful that means that native title owners would be able to exclude other people from access to those areas," he said.


At best non-aboriginal people might have to pay entry fee as to see Uluru, formerly also called Airs Rock.
Which is fine, but not for Australian citizens.

If Aboriginals are treated differently to other Australians, I see problem with that.

We urge for integration of others, but we simply cannot integrate with those who arrived here 30,000 years before us.
 
Hi Happy,

At present it costs $25.00 to purchase a 3 day pass to the national park which contains Uluru and the Olgas, no pass, no entry, no Uluru
 
macca said:
Hi Happy,

At present it costs $25.00 to purchase a 3 day pass to the national park which contains Uluru and the Olgas, no pass, no entry, no Uluru


You did not mention exemptions.

Omission, deliberately, or there aren’t any?
 
No exemptions that I am aware of, probably only the aboriginal people that live within the park I suppose.
 


We’ve got Perth, Gold Coast, now Adelaide, looks like the gates are open.
 
macca said:
Hi all,

The attached link is in the paper today, hopefully this is a step forward for these communities.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/how-intolerance-can-turn-the-tide/2006/09/27/1159337220004.html

Thanks for posting that link, Macca. Really interesting and so absolutely sensible.

If there were more indigenous leaders like Noel Pearson the aboriginal population would have more reason for hope. However, his suggestions will probably be met with opposition from the ultra left who will brand the programme as paternalistic. Well, imo, paternalistic is just what is needed at this stage.

Julia
 
Hello Julia'

I did like your comments .
But watch the white aboriginals attack on Noel Pearson

Bob.
 
Bobby said:
Hello Julia'

I did like your comments .
But watch the white aboriginals attack on Noel Pearson

Bob.

Yes, Bob. Sadly, you are probably right with that suggestion.

Julia
 


I thought about the crap people have to put up with ‘indigenous’ issues in Australia, Canada and USA

In Australia, our originals, on one hand want their –customary life style- preserved, but topped up with 4WD’s, top class services including medical support, and probably some kind of education vaccine or pill, as they are not too keen on new world school system.

I say, total crap, all the heritage culture is smoke and screen, to go forward everybody has to go forward, not only new-arrivals.

I don’t think –customary life style- few thousand years ago provided top class medical care, nor should be provided now.

You live your life with your trimmings, and you are welcome to live our life with our benefits, not the best of both.

Being equal goes both ways.
 

To me it is excuse, after excuse.

On the other hand good to know that if you almost die after committing murder chances are that punishment will be lighter.

Bit of a worry if it will be applied with the same compassion to any other race Australian in race-less Australia.
 

I agree, murder is murder and should be treated the same regardless of race. I certainly hope that the same compassion is shown for all murderers, colour not withstanding, and that none of them get out in less than 19 years. Alas, I suspect if you skim through the media however you may well find a lot of them, regardless of race, getting out in far less time.
Aaron did nearly die after his tribal punishment, traditionally he would have been left after the spearing and would have died alone, the only reason he survived was that we, via our justice/police system, stepped in and commuted his death sentence by bringing him in from the desert and treating him. As a result, if and when he eventually returns to his community he will basically not exist, he wont participate in community life, will not be acknowledged by anyone. In actual fact, truly a dead man walking. Not many people in Australia have thier punishment extend that far after thier release.
The people from his region are in fact the most traditional of our aboriginals, whilst Aaron was born in "relative civilisation" his father Charlie and his peers were born and grew up in the desert and actually lived traditionally the way they had for thousands of years, without interaction, the benefits?, or even knowledge of the white man. They were brought in during the 60's during a series of welfare patrols. People like Aaron have moved from the stone age to the space age in one generation, in his father Charlie Butlers case, in one lifetime. I don't think you will find they were making excuses, (maybe civilised lawyers were?), his people had pronounced a death sentence and had carried it out, until civilisation intervened. It seems that they take murder more seriously than we do?
For anyone interested, if you have Google earth try... 24, 20, 52.81 S,
......128, 42, 11.85 E.
and zoom in, if you look closely you may see his "relatively civilised" community.
 
Happy
You appear to have missed the Goodes news items on aboriginal footballers, lately.
The sin of omission doesnt' carry a life sentence, or does it?
 
Omission or not, hard to follow every story out there, since you see more, care to top up?
Thread is open to anybody to contribute.

I’ll paraphrase a bit.
Aren’t we – other Australians- lucky that original Australians are not cannibals or that their rituals don’t conform to our fabric?

Spearing is bit out of –new- character, and somebody somewhere has to look the other way so we don’t have to respond to this as malicious wounding, and punish perpetrators.

In a sense I feel as a spectator, but this –movie- is for real, hope in a process all the land is not going to be given back to –first arrivals-, as I’ll end up paying 2 taxes, that’s all to it, MONEY.
 
Happy said:
Omission or not, hard to follow every story out there, since you see more, care to top up?
Thread is open to anybody to contribute.
Happy
You only seem to follow the "bad" news stories.
Given these fill our daily newspapers, mostly with errant white folk, how about you enlighten us to the real rip off merchants, or borrow from the regular guff on the 6.30pm exposes weekdays.
If it was about "money", as you suggest, how about naming a few indigenous millionaires.
I'll start with a nice white fella - Steve Vizard.
 
Must be habit from Stock Market, I seem to follow some formations more than others.

But again let me invite you to be the good news ambassador, or you just want to be the not-happy with what others post?
 
Being unable to name millionaires, not necessarily be that it only means that there is no money motif, it could also mean that there is demonstrated inability to manage money matters.

Accidentally there were some issues with money misappropriation in the past, but wouldn’t be too happy to talk about old news.
 
Came past this today -




What struck me, actually what it really means and how ridiculous would it be if somebody these days decided to use the principle of -traditional living-, heritage culture and all that stuff.

Say we have –tradition- of 3 generations of unemployment, and say they call it –traditional living-, their culture and their tradition.

They decide to -stop the clock- and fight for their rights to uphold their tradition.

Somebody might say how dare I say something like that and compare it to 30,000 or 40,000 years of tradition.
Sorry, but this is exactly the same just –slightly- different timeframe.

Effectively this is RIGHT TO STOP THE CLOCK.
And to be fair to all Australians, we all should go forward not just newcomers, and having special rights within so called country of equal rights doesn’t look too bright.
 


Wisdom of vision only to be applauded, didn’t we all have to move forward.
 


Yes, Government responsible for everything, individuals responsible for nothing.

But this type of story goes around the world.
 
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