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wayneL said:
Just Green gross misrepresentations and histrionics Noco.

You should've heard them in parliament yesterday, bleating about "science", yet trotting out every discredited embellishment since Silent Spring.

Obviously, basilio, the Greens and the ABC don't read proper scientific analysis of papers that are published. They continuously repeat the 97% mantra which has so embarrassingly been shown to be a crock of shyte, and promulgate the Goreist religious doctrine of "scare the folks" with mendacious balderdash.
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Yes Wayne you are 100% correct.

This is the Green/Labor socialist left wing modus operandi.......screech their propaganda often enough and the naive will believe it, but the average person with any commonsense are now starting to see through their lies and BS.
 
Obviously, basilio, the Greens and the ABC don't read proper scientific analysis of papers that are published. Wayne L
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Oh I have obviously missed a very significant scientific analysis that clearly disputes the current understandings on climate change.

Could you please refer me to the papers that mange to overturn the current overwhelming scientific belief that we have rapid global warming and that human produced greenhouse gases are the primary driver. Given that it is a 'proper scientific analysis' I expect it would have been peer reviewed and published in a reputable science journal.

Thanks.:)
 
basilio said:
Oh I have obviously missed a very significant scientific analysis that clearly disputes the current understandings on climate change.

Could you please refer me to the papers that mange to overturn the current overwhelming scientific belief that we have rapid global warming and that human produced greenhouse gases are the primary driver. Given that it is a 'proper scientific analysis' I expect it would have been peer reviewed and published in a reputable science journal.

Thanks.:)
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There is a fallacy in your question.

There is an overwhelming scientific belief in the empirical observations, these show a warming trend since the end of the little ice age.

There is overwhelming scientific belief that increasing the concentration of greenhouse gases will cause warming, all things being equal.

There is no overwhelming scientific belief regarding feedbacks, degree of anthropogenic or natural drivers. There are various hypotheses regarding these.

There is no overwhelming belief in the continuation of any trend. The models have failed to predict, illustrating that our understanding of climate is in its infancy.

There is no evidence that weather events are more extreme, as asserted in parliament yesterday by the hysterical lying Greens, or that any other predictions of Armageddon have any validity.

There is no overwhelming belief that climate change will ultimately be dangerous to humankind.

Ergo, the answer is in the completed studies themselves, rather than studies refuting studies (apart from analysis of Cooke et al which has been shredded into tiny pieces). Apart from a very few end time Apocalyptic nutters, very few papers make much of a statement.
 
But this thread is about the ABC, so let's take it to the appropriate thread.
 
Email doing the rounds


Subject: Fwd: Balanced Report



A Harley biker is riding by the zoo in Chester, when he sees a little girl leaning into the lions' cage.

Suddenly, the lion grabs her by the cuff of her jacket and tries to pull her inside, under the eyes of her screaming parents.

The biker jumps off his Harley, runs to the cage and hits the lion square on the nose with a powerful punch.

Whimpering from the pain, the lion jumps back, letting go of the girl and the biker brings her to her terrified parents who thank him endlessly.

A reporter has watched the whole event. The reporter, addressing the Harley rider, says: "Sir, this was the most gallant and brave thing I've seen a man do in my whole life."

The Harley rider replies: "Why, it was nothing, really; the lion was behind bars. I just saw this little kid in danger and acted as I felt right.."

The reporter says,
"Well, I'll make sure this won't go unnoticed. I'm a Daily Mail journalist and tomorrow's paper will have this story on the front page. So, what do you do for a living and what political affiliation do you have?"

The biker replies:
"I'm an SAS soldier just returned from Afghanistan and a Labour party supporter."

The journalist leaves.

The following morning the biker buys the paper to see news of his actions and reads, on the front page:









SAS SOLDIER ASSAULTS AFRICAN IMMIGRANT AND STEALS HIS LUNCH


That pretty much sums up the media's approach to the news these days.



And this thread
 
The ABC have been all over the latest boat arrival with 157 from India but said very little about the 50,000 arrivals under Green/Labor and the 1250 who drowned at sea.

The ABC are making a big deal about the children in detention which they claim the HRC report abuse of children in detention. The number of kids in detention has been reduced from some 2000 to 800 in just 9 months.

They are showing their true colors in hoping the Government fails with SBO.

Time for the ABC to show some balance and stop the bias.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...alition-no-slack/story-fn8qlm5e-1227010618655
 
Agree essentially with the above.
At the same time, I only today got around to watching last Sunday's "Insiders" and was pleasantly surprised at the usually anti-government journalists being very even-handed and even full of praise for the efforts of Tony Abbott and Julie Bishop over the MH17 matter.

Even the intervew with Tanya Plibersek was fair in terms of both the questions by Kelly and the answers, with minimal point scoring.
 
Julia said:
Agree essentially with the above.
At the same time, I only today got around to watching last Sunday's "Insiders" and was pleasantly surprised at the usually anti-government journalists being very even-handed and even full of praise for the efforts of Tony Abbott and Julie Bishop over the MH17 matter.

Even the intervew with Tanya Plibersek was fair in terms of both the questions by Kelly and the answers, with minimal point scoring.
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I guess they had very little choice but show praise on the effort Abbott and Bishop have demonstrated......I would say the ABC would have looked pretty callous if they hadn't.

As far as Plibersk is concerned, she avoided showing much gratitude at all IMO.
 
The ABC is political and out of touch.

The Australian shows a child holding up a severed head on its front page.
The ABC News shows cartoons mocking Australia's response to terrorism.
Pathetic.
 
This, from Radio National's "Big Ideas", is a very good panel discussion on Bias in the Australian Media.
The facilitator is Paul Barclay, one of the ABC's front people who is actually calm and reasonable, rather than deliberately inflammatory and provocative.

http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/bigideas/bias-in-the-australian-media/5688912


Tom Switzer
journalist
former Australian editor of 'The Spectator' magazine
research associate, US Studies Centre.

Dr John Harrison
academic, University of Queensland, School of Journalism and Communication.

Sharri Markson
journalist
Media Editor, 'The Australian' newspaper

Dr Andrew Dodd
journalist
academic, Swinburne University of Technology.

Ms Markson in particular provides some quite astonishing examples of tweets from some very publicly known ABC journalists, including one where the journalist posts a photo of herself wearing a Tshirt that says
"F. Tony Abbott".
 
Julia said:
Ms Markson in particular provides some quite astonishing examples of tweets from some very publicly known ABC journalists, including one where the journalist posts a photo of herself wearing a Tshirt that says
"F. Tony Abbott".
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Unbelievable if true.
I only managed to find this on the internet, which still is wrong.


ABC anti-Abbott bias? - from The Australian

AND they say there is no anti-government bias at the ABC. ABC newsreader and Business Today presenter, Whitney Fitzsimmons has posted a photograph on her Facebook page of a woman wearing a charming T-shirt that reads “F. . k Tony Abbott.”

She also likes the comments underneath the photograph, which read “simple yet effective” and “Oddly, Miranda Devine has the same shirt.” This matter was a tough one for ABC’s new chief spinner, Nick Leys, who took two days to come back to Diary when we asked him how the ABC could provide objective and balanced coverage of politics when their journalists posted material like this on Facebook. Finally he said, “While she did take the photograph and post it to her personal Facebook page, she in no way endorses the views on display.” Aaah. If only there was an unendorse button on Facebook.
 
This, from Radio National's "Big Ideas", is a very good panel discussion on Bias in the Australian Media.
The facilitator is Paul Barclay, one of the ABC's front people who is actually calm and reasonable, rather than deliberately inflammatory and provocative.
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Interesting discussion.

And you heard it on ... The ABC.

I wonder if the commercial channels ever do a searching public review of their own processes.

As for that silly Murdoch woman who thinks the ABC is a rampant communist propagandist...

Mark Scott sat next to Clive Palmer !! WOW, that makes Clive a Greeny !

Give us a break :rolleyes:
 

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