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IFocus said:
The ABC regularly served up brick bats to Rudd and Gillard ridiculing them for their poor politics dont recall Abbott being upset then.

Just shows how fragile the conservatives are in this country or how determine they are to rule the media and perpetrate there own propaganda like how our relationship with Indonesia is its highest priority.
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IFocus, you have been schmoozed by Green and ABC Spin.

There is a lack of curiosity in ABC reporting, and a lack of rigour.

Fair enough if the Australian Navy had tortured Balts in boats, but the story really never stood up.

A rush to publication was the name of the game.

No statement from our Navy before publication.

I really believe the Correspondent in DJakarta has never been outside that city, and certainly has no knowledge of how the Indon Police and Army suck off and screw the population in which they operate.

It defies understanding how the ABC couuld have been SO BLOODY STUPID.

gg
 
Knobby22 said:
Rubbish! You are just a Tony parrot.
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That might be a little unfair.

What about the construction union stuff they found out about,
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That's a valid point and it has been the lead story on 7.30 for the last two nights. Good stuff and showing the unions in a very poor light.

But the bias on radio can be seen in the reporting of the above this evening. The program was referred to briefly, said - unbelievably - absolutely nothing about the actual damning revelations of the whistleblower, and went straight to a sound grab of Ged Kearney, President of the Australian Council of Trade Unions, saying any Royal Commission would be purely politically based and designed by Tony Abbott to destroy the unions.

So it's this sort of selective quoting that so upsets people.

The actual interview presented Leigh Sales asking very relevant and decisive questions of Ms Kearney which the latter failed to answer satisfactorily, looking pretty rattled.

Imo the 7.30 account followed by Leigh Sales interviewing Kearney was first rate and unsparing of anything to do with the unions and should be acknowledged for this.

I want a strong ABC. If they want to sack the board and CEO , go for it, but don't cut it off from the knees because it competes with Murdoch.
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It does need a complete rethink and this probably needs to come from a change at the top.

It will never be 'cut off from the knees' for any reason because too many people in regional areas are entirely dependent on it and it's marvellous in a crisis like a flood.

Also, the political bias is just one facet of the organisation. There are some great programs on literature and music, some top interviews and commentary, just as there are the ultra Left contributions where the group think takes over completely.

Logique said:
Why does the ABC hate our Navy? Indeed the question may be asked, especially by the sailors!

I understand that Malcolm Turnbull is the relevant Minister for Communications. But he's not communicating much on the subject of the ABC, not publicly anyway. No doubt behind the scenes, thrashing them with a wet lettuce.
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No wonder the Left continue to call for Mr Turnbull to take the leadership. He echoes their philosophy.
It works well for them that in his brief attempt at leading the Libs, Mr Turnbull failed dismally and will never imo be given another chance by his party. He might, however, provide a valid alternative to Mr Shorten if the Labor Party would care to adopt him.
 
So_Cynical said:
I would of thought its fair to say that the Government in general is not communicating with anyone, lucky to see Tony once per week on the news, and couldn't tell you the last time i saw Malcolm on the telly, would of been around the time of the NBN policy release...you know the policy that has had more back flips than the education policy.
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Abbott and Turnbull are out there doing there jobs and are not media tarts like Rudd/Gillard and Beattie on the tele every day with there lies and propaganda......Is that what you would like to see every day again?
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
It is reasonable for these matters to be discussed, WHERE THERE IS EVIDENCE OR CORROBORATION, not as part of a continual wearing down in a pseudo- entertaining fashion of journalism, which refuses to fact check or support the Australian interest.

That joke of a report from ABC DJakarta could have as easily been a pissed Aussie tourist from Bali with a bloody Mexican hat on his head, as a reporter.

He just blindly believed a mob of balts and Indon Corrupt Police, instead of considering it may have been a put up to show our Navy in a bad light.

Perhaps on reflection a pissed Aussie in Bali with a Mexican hat, would not have been as stupid and idiotic, to make such a slur, without evidence.

GUT THE ABC I SAY.

gg
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I agree it was most likely the people self harmed, but then we are talking about the same military that has for decades covered up quite a bit of sexual abuse cases and some off behaviour of personnel in the middle east. So I'm 99.9% sure it's not true, but I'd prefer the claims in the public domain where there's more light on the matter and it's much more likely the truth will prevail.
 
I know where this is heading.

We will find Radio Australia will become Skychannel and owned by a USA company and therefore we can be sure USA interests will be foremost in the broadcast.

Our strong investigative reporters overseas will be culled ensuring we will receive a foreign view of the world rather than an own view.

Internally our investigative reports will also be culled leading to thriving corruption. it will be far more difficult to "Keep the Bastards honest".

Our media will be dumbed down and we will be treated like mushrooms so that if anything happens that doesn't reflect well on us or our partners, ....such as the recent information that the game Angry Birds (owned by Disney) has been used to hack our phones by the CIA will be considered traitorous (not our ABC).

It's not black and white guys. it's not "The Australian" good and "ABC" bad. If we destroy the ABC, I fear for Australia.
 
You can call me cynical, however Ifind it strange that the ABC wait untill Labor are out of office before releasing stories on union corruption.
Now we have them releasing the story of Labors intervening in an asylum seekers case. When as the last paragraph states they obviously had knowlege of it prior to the election.
I doubt the same favours would have been extended to Abbott, a wiff of a story and it was headline news,:D

Over the past five months the ABC has repeatedly asked people connected to the case for an interview including; Fawad Ahmed, Grant Poulter and James Sutherland from Cricket Australia, Labor frontbenchers Chris Bowen and Brendan O'Connor, Derek Bennett from Melbourne University Cricket Club and Immigration Minister Scott Morrison. Some declined or didn't respond. Others offered interviews with strict conditions the ABC could not agree to. The ABC has omitted some personal information contained in the confidential documents for privacy reasons.



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-...awad-ahmed-asylum-case-was-borderline/5225808

Knobby all people want, is the ABC to be an Australian Braodcasting Commission. Not the public funded Labor Party media department.IMO
 
sptrawler said:
You can call me cynical, however Ifind it strange that the ABC wait untill Labor are out of office before releasing stories on union corruption.
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How do you know they had completed the investigation, along with Fairfax, whilst Labor were still in government?
 
ABC Local Radio is still the best for local information and support in bad weather and disasters.

Support your Local ABC in the Reorganisation of the ABC.

gg
 
Julia said:
How do you know they had completed the investigation, along with Fairfax, whilst Labor were still in government?
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I don't know and I can't find the article on their website.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/

It's easy to find articles on Tony Abbotts criticism of the ABC. It's in the column 'past hour', 'past 24 hours', 'past week' and past month.
No mention of the CFMEU in any column or looking in older stories.:eek:
 
So Abbott has ordered an efficiency study into the ABC yet when a similar study was ordered only 8 years ago it found that the ABC was efficient and actually required an additional 126 million over 3 years to maintain its operations. Of course that wasn't the result the coalition government wanted and never granted the additional funding.http://www.crikey.com.au/wp-content...oard-b7c7b4dd-5e73-43ca-9152-05ed656c3b93.pdf

If many of you had your wishes we would be left in a state of disarray, we would basically only have the choice of the Murdoch press or Fairfax and I'm not even going to bother mentioning The Guardian. In the past I've not denied an ABC bias but once again I don't believe its as extreme as many of you do however I don't listen to much radio so maybe that's why. I do think many on here that complain most likely follow the Murdoch press, if we're talking relative to each other then there is no way you can read the Murdoch press and believe its struck a good middle ground of balance and then see the ABC as anything but a Labor mouthpiece. Unfortunately in Australia we are really starved for choice when it comes to tabloids and I think killing off the public broadcaster would further damage the journalism in this country.

Maybe an independent body is needed to review complaints of bias at the ABC. I would like this addressed as any journalists with a right leaning will avoid working for the ABC given the reputation and then we'll really be left with a lefty mouthpiece, maybe this has happened already.
 
Overhang, what we are starved of is a decent news media.
We have Murdoch to the right.
Faifax and ABC to the left.
SBS in the middle east.
Chanels 7,9 and 10 making news into a absolute joke, that is a cross between a weekly magazine and a local community lost and found show.
How the hell can they say "On the news tommorrow night", tommorrow it isn't news.

Why can't someone just give us the news, as it is.:cry:
 
Every government try's to run the media but Abbott's overt pressure on the ABC and sucking up to media moguls is really disgusting, middle Australia just are not going to buy it, the WA senate election is looking more interesting each day.
 
IFocus said:
Every government try's to run the media but Abbott's overt pressure on the ABC and sucking up to media moguls is really disgusting, middle Australia just are not going to buy it, the WA senate election is looking more interesting each day.
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Aren't you forgetting, oh so quickly, the pressure Rudd/Gillard was putting on News Corp.
Oh how easy the memory slips.:D
 
sptrawler said:
I don't know and I can't find the article on their website.
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Neither can I find any evidence anywhere to the effect that the ABC had sat on this union corruption story during the time Labor was in government despite some considerable searching. Absolutely nothing to suggest the combined ABC/Fairfax investigation has not just recently been completed.

I'm frequently irritated by the bias at the ABC, but at the same time, don't think it's fair to make allegations against them that seem to have no basis in fact.
Happy to change my mind in this instance if any evidence appears to substantiate your earlier assertion that they could have brought this story to the public attention whilst Labor was in power.

Overhang makes some valid points.

Separately, tonight on 7.30 is the first time I've seen Malcolm Turnbull become a bit tongue tied.
Or perhaps this was my inbuilt bias against Mr Turnbull at work? How did others see the interview?
 
Julia said:
Neither can I find any evidence anywhere to the effect that the ABC had sat on this union corruption story during the time Labor was in government despite some considerable searching. Absolutely nothing to suggest the combined ABC/Fairfax investigation has not just recently been completed.

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Can you find the article at all on their website?
 
sptrawler said:
Can you find the article at all on their website?
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What article are you referring to?

I'm asking for any article, anywhere, by anyone at all which demonstrates that the ABC has sat on this union corruption stuff whilst Labor was in power.
 
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