ABC is Political

[trainspotter]

What percent out of the 84% actually had a left leaning and what % were center, what a worthless stat. Also what were the statistics of ABC employees as this is what we're discussing.

Did you read my post?

Most journalists were unionised, with approximately 86 per cent belonging to the MEAA. If journalists gravitate to the party which most closely approximates their political ideology, then more will seek preselection with the ALP rather than the Liberal or National parties'.

ERGO 16% has a right bias Conclude from that what you will

MORE than 40 per cent of ABC journalists who answered a survey question about their political attitudes are Greens supporters, four times the support the minor party enjoys in the wider population.

The journalism survey, the largest in 20 years, has found the profession is overwhelmingly left-leaning, with respondents from the ABC declaring double levels of support for the Greens compared with those from Fairfax Media and News Limited.

The survey of 605 journalists from around Australia found that just more than half described themselves as having left political views, while only 13 per cent said they were right of centre.

This tendency was most pronounced among the 34 ABC journalists who agreed to declare their voting intention, with 41 per cent of them saying they would vote for the Greens, 32 per cent declaring support for Labor and 14 per cent backing the Coalition.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...bc-survey-finds/story-fn59niix-1226647246897#

Oooerrrr ... ABC is Green and NOT Red?

 

[overhang]

Did you read my post?



ERGO 16% has a right bias Conclude from that what you will



http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...bc-survey-finds/story-fn59niix-1226647246897#

Oooerrrr ... ABC is Green and NOT Red?

Maybe I'm just thick but I still don't get that. It says 16% has a right bias but yet 84% percent are either center or left.... that means it could possibly be 68% are center and 16& to the left and we want our journalists to ideally be center. Like Julia I cant read that pay wall either and I'm not interested in deleting my cookies as then I lose saved web site preferences etc.

 

[trainspotter]

Maybe I'm just thick but I still don't get that. It says 16% has a right bias but yet 84% percent are either center or left.... that means it could possibly be 68% are center and 16& to the left and we want our journalists to ideally be center. Like Julia I cant read that pay wall either and I'm not interested in deleting my cookies as then I lose saved web site preferences etc.

Sorry overhang ... not sure what the copyright is by posting the article? But it does state thusly:-


The survey of 605 journalists from around Australia found that just more than half described themselves as having left political views, while only 13 per cent said they were right of centre.

This tendency was most pronounced among the 34 ABC journalists who agreed to declare their voting intention, with 41 per cent of them saying they would vote for the Greens, 32 per cent declaring support for Labor and 14 per cent backing the Coalition.

So now I am thinking they are a pack of Greenies and not Commies

 

[overhang]

I'd find it hard to quantify overall. There are particular radio and TV presenters whose bias is strong, and the content of their programs reflect this. Others who are doing a good job of being fairly rigorous with both sides, eg Leigh Sales. There's a great little program on Sunday evening on the Local Radio network - James O'Loughlin covers a huge variety of interesting topics with great guests, and there's not a political comment amongst any of it. Also useful literary reviews and other non-political info on Radio National, and great music on Classic FM.

I concur all though I don't listen to too much weekend radio these days. I don't mind the ABC providing I can avoid Q&A.

 

[overhang]

Sorry overhang ... not sure what the copyright is by posting the article? But it does state thusly:-


The survey of 605 journalists from around Australia found that just more than half described themselves as having left political views, while only 13 per cent said they were right of centre.

This tendency was most pronounced among the 34 ABC journalists who agreed to declare their voting intention, with 41 per cent of them saying they would vote for the Greens, 32 per cent declaring support for Labor and 14 per cent backing the Coalition.

So now I am thinking they are a pack of Greenies and not Commies

That's ok, I imagine it may be breaching copyright by posting it. I guess as long as those voting intentions don't affect their work judgement but that would be extremely difficult in that line of work. I now imagine the ABC carpark full of bikes and prii (Toyota Prius)

 

[trainspotter]

That's ok, I imagine it may be breaching copyright by posting it. I guess as long as those voting intentions don't affect their work judgement but that would be extremely difficult in that line of work. I now imagine the ABC carpark full of bikes and prii (Toyota Prius)

Another ABC journalist on his way to work perhaps or off to the school to hand out "How to vote cards"?

 

[Calliope]

Noco has recently taken the trouble to copy and paste the entire article to which he is referring which is much appreciated. Hope this doesn't infringe any copyright?

Yes I noticed that, but my preference is still for the link. It weeds out the freeloaders.

Back on topic, the ABC's Fact Check is a bit loose with the facts;

THE ABC's Fact Check unit has made a series of factual mistakes in its analysis of Clive Palmer's business interests, wealth and companies and relied on accounts that are almost 17 months out of date.

See more at: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...y-fnk76wj3-1226768206244#sthash.O3jD2Ps7.dpuf

 

[noco]

Yes I noticed that, but my preference is still for the link. It weeds out the freeloaders.

Back on topic, the ABC's Fact Check is a bit loose with the facts;


See more at: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...y-fnk76wj3-1226768206244#sthash.O3jD2Ps7.dpuf

Well Doc, this bloke "X" found the paper on the seat of the train on the way home from work....He then gave it to his neighbour "Y" who scanned the article and emailed it to "Z" who posted it on the ASF. So I am sure in this case who would have infringed on the copy rights.

But you are right....post the link and keep out the free loaders......after all the subscription works out to the price of a cup of coffee per week.

 

[drsmith]

ABC headline in relation to the government's Graincorp decision.

GrainCorp takeover rejection 'weak'
ABC News.

That's Labor's response so perhaps the headline should read "Opposition brands GrainCorp takeover rejection as weak" or even more appropriately, "Government rejects GrainCorp takeover" as the story itself is about more than Labor's response.

Instead, the ABC with the above headline is presenting the Opposition's partisan judgement as an authoritative judgement in itself.

 

[MrBurns]

ABC headline in relation to the government's Graincorp decision.



That's Labor's response so perhaps the headline should read "Opposition brands GrainCorp takeover rejection as weak" or even more appropriately, "Government rejects GrainCorp takeover" as the story itself is about more than Labor's response.

Instead, the ABC with the above headline is presenting the Opposition's partisan judgement as an authoritative judgement in itself.

Yes they're getting completely out of hand not sure how it will play out but it's got to end.

 

[Calliope]

The politicisation of the ABC is not news-worthy anymore. Even Abbott on Bolt this morning can't see anything wrong with their politics. He won't criticise them because he doesn't want them to up their their hate campaign. He also refused to criticise Shorten's other mouthpiece Ms Bryce.

On The Insiders they have completely dropped any pretense of being impartial. The deck was stacked 5 to Nil. No Outsiders i.e. not in the Canberra Press Gallery, were allowed to interfere with their hate campaign on their last show of the year. They had a ball. They ripped Abbott, Pyne and Hockey apart for the whole programme. It no coincidence that Wong wore her evil smirk on this show.

Abbott however, on the Bolt Report has no idea how to look like a winner even on a programme when he should at least show some confidence. I think that Gillard and the handbag brigade have completely emasculated him. He looks shellshocked. His style of leadership is to not upset anyone. He is a new age Neville Chamberlain. Appeasement is his style.

I never works.

 

[DocK]

The politicisation of the ABC is not news-worthy anymore. Even Abbott on Bolt this morning can't see anything wrong with their politics. He won't criticise them because he doesn't want them to up their their hate campaign. He also refused to criticise Shorten's other mouthpiece Ms Bryce.

On The Insiders they have completely dropped any pretense of being impartial. The deck was stacked 5 to Nil. No Outsiders i.e. not in the Canberra Press Gallery, were allowed to interfere with their hate campaign on their last show of the year. They had a ball. They ripped Abbott, Pyne and Hockey apart for the whole programme. It no coincidence that Wong wore her evil smirk on this show.

Abbott however, on the Bolt Report has no idea how to look like a winner even on a programme when he should at least show some confidence. I think that Gillard and the handbag brigade have completely emasculated him. He looks shellshocked. His style of leadership is to not upset anyone. He is a new age Neville Chamberlain. Appeasement is his style.

I never works.

My take is a little different. Insiders was, as you say, completely anti-govt - but Cassidy did make the point that their guests have all been from the Opposition as the govt aren't putting anyone forward/accepting their invitations. I also seem to recall at least one panelist speaking in favour of the way Abbott has handled the spying saga.

On the other hand, Andrew Bolt was being soooo obsequious as to be almost nauseating, and I think Abbott was content to let Bolt get his point across for him, while allowing himself to appear gracious and dignified. I certainly got the message when Abbott spoke of his doubt as to the wisdom the ABC showed in choosing to promote the Guardian's piece, and again when he said he would be foolish to pick a fight with the Gov General - he more or less said he disagreed with what she did and said, without actually coming right out and saying so. To me, the gist of his message was clear, his presence on Bolt's show and his lack of disagreement with Bolt's gushing says all that needs to be said, and I'm sure most of the viewing audience would be in no doubt of his actual opinion on the matters discussed. I'm thinking it was a pretty smart move - he got his point across without actually saying anything that could come back to bite him. Costello on the other hand had nothing to lose and was most forthright on his opinion of the ABC and its chairman.

I do agree that he needs to get a little dirtier and take the fight to the opposition. Dignified silence is all well and good, but the media is being overrun with Labor shadow ministers giving interviews at any opportunity, and the average voter is likely to believe whatever they hear trumpeted most often. Abbott may like to stick with the "we'll be silent unless we have something to say" mantra, but he's faced with an opposition that seems to have an endless appetite for the media, and a media that has come to expect and rely upon constant sound bites from politicians, and seems intent on increasing its own influence and power in the political arena.

 

[Calliope]

I'm sure most of the viewing audience would be in no doubt of his actual opinion on the matters discussed. I'm thinking it was a pretty smart move - he got his point across without actually saying anything that could come back to bite him.

It's the saying nothing to upset anyone that is biting him. It is seen as a weakness.

 

[drsmith]

Is this the briefest fact check ever produced ?

Tony Abbott and Greg Hunt say axing the carbon price will save households an average of $550 next financial year. ABC Fact Check finds that claim in the ballpark.

That's the detail below the headline. Just those two sentences.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-...-hunt-in-the-ballpark-on-24550-saving/5029570

 

[Calliope]

The odd couple.

SOME have gone so far as to describe the connection between ABC managing director Mark Scott and The Guardian editor-in-chief Alan Rusbridger as a bromance.

Certainly the pair are publicly and privately praiseworthy of each other. They met up the week before their organisations jointly published the revelation that Australian security services had monitored the mobile phone activity of Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, his wife and senior officials in 2009.

As the fallout from the story continues to be felt, it begs the question: would the unique and controversial journalistic alliance between the ABC and the Guardian Australia have occurred without such warm relations between the two executives?

- See more at: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...y-fn59niix-1226773788813#sthash.Yz6hOAb9.dpuf


Guardian editor-in-chief Alan Rusbridger and ABC managing director Mark Scott catch up when they are in each other's country

 

[trainspotter]

No intention to change the operational style of the ABC .., Pfffffffffftttttttttt yeah rightio Tones !

"My intention is to speak plainly and candidly with the Australian people in the hope that ABC management will see sense," he said.

"Why should the ABC be acting as an advertising agent for a left-wing British newspaper?"

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-...has-no-plans-to-change-abc-operations/5132074

"I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries." (apologies to all the Montys out there)

 

[noco]

Is this the briefest fact check ever produced ?



That's the detail below the headline. Just those two sentences.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-...-hunt-in-the-ballpark-on-24550-saving/5029570

Doc, I would say Malcolm Turbull has already tapped the ABC on the shoulder and asked them to check out there charter.

I would say it has been a subtle warning.....if the ABC don't heed that warning, then there could be some fire works from Turnbull....I can't see Abbott taking any action.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ons-oldfashioned/story-fn59niix-1226774150212

 

[drsmith]

Doc, I would say Malcolm Turbull has already tapped the ABC on the shoulder and asked them to check out there charter.

I would say it has been a subtle warning.....if the ABC don't heed that warning, then there could be some fire works from Turnbull....I can't see Abbott taking any action.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ons-oldfashioned/story-fn59niix-1226774150212

Not action as such, but public slaps at least from Malcolm Turnbull and the PM.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...over-phonetapping-stories-20131203-2ymrw.html

http://media.smh.com.au/news/national-news/tony-abbott-attacks-abc-4976896.html

TA in the above video link refers to the ABC's charter.

 

[banco]

LOL at Turnbull doing anything substantive to the ABC. He'd never eat lunch in Mosman again.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

My contacts in the UK tell me that the UK Government is considering charges against the Editor and Staff of the Guardian newspaper, for aiding terrorists, harming UK security and exposing UK assets to harm.

Perhaps we should consider the same against the ABC and the ABC staff responsible for amplifying the Snowden leaks.

gg