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Then, according to Barrie Cassidy, Mr Abbott went on to again make the completely incorrect statement about "illegal arrivals" later that same day.
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What about when those arrivals pay people smugglers large sums of money to jump the queue ?

What about when the captain of a commercial vessel feels threatened by the asylum seekers he has rescued such that he has to alter course to a new destination ?

This is greyer than Barry Cassidy portrays.
 
Julia said:
John Howard would never have behaved like this. Neither would he have encouraged/allowed members of his team to engage in the overkill of a whole day of gloating toward the government when the findings of the expert panel were revealed.
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My goodness dear lady.

The Coalition's responses to this are a side show in comparison to what Labor do to their own, let alone any body else.

I'm also trying to imagine how Paul Keating would have responded in similar circumstanses. It would have been worth it to see him as opposition leader to a government as incompetent as this one for the fireworks alone..........................................



almost.
 
Julia said:
Imo Barrie Cassidy is making a very valid point. Tony Abbott's continuous exaggeration and misrepresentation will eventually be his undoing.

This, from the article:


Then, according to Barrie Cassidy, Mr Abbott went on to again make the completely incorrect statement about "illegal arrivals" later that same day.

John Howard would never have behaved like this. Neither would he have encouraged/allowed members of his team to engage in the overkill of a whole day of gloating toward the government when the findings of the expert panel were revealed.

Sometimes less is more, Mr Abbott.
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Who knows when less is more?
The polls will show, untill then it is our personal perceptions.
I agree it may be a case of 'over the top' positive reinforcement, however Gillard adopts the same methodology.
It must be flavour of the month from the spin kings. It all probably originates from online surveys conducted in conjunction with so you think you can trance.
I am a firm believer that middle Australia has already voted, the ABC should start and think about its own ar$e.
It would be terrible to see the ABC lose government support due to a percieved bias, after the election.
There is nothing worse than seing those dishing out crap, standing with placards in their hands saying "save our jobs".
This is where it is so important that news should be news not personal views.
 
drsmith said:
My goodness dear lady.

The Coalition's responses to this are a side show in comparison to what Labor do to their own, let alone any body else.

I'm also trying to imagine how Paul Keating would have responded in similar circumstanses. It would have been worth it to see him as opposition leader to a government as incompetent as this one for the fireworks alone..........................................
almost.
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No doubt entirely true.
I just preferred John Howard's more dignified, restrained style.

sptrawler said:
Who knows when less is more?
The polls will show, untill then it is our personal perceptions.
I agree it may be a case of 'over the top' positive reinforcement, however Gillard adopts the same methodology.
It must be flavour of the month from the spin kings. It all probably originates from online surveys conducted in conjunction with so you think you can trance.
I am a firm believer that middle Australia has already voted, the ABC should start and think about its own ar$e.
It would be terrible to see the ABC lose government support due to a percieved bias, after the election.
There is nothing worse than seing those dishing out crap, standing with placards in their hands saying "save our jobs".
This is where it is so important that news should be news not personal views.
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I think we've given up on news being truly impartial.
Agree with your comments. It's just an indication of how low both sides have stooped.
The notion of holding any politician in a position of respect is laughable, and that's the great shame of it all.
 
Just watched an interview with Julian Assange mother. She really started to get stuck in to the current labor goverment and in particular resident slimeball Nicola Roxon and the measures she went to with wiki leaks supporters when the abc interviewer interjected with:
"sorry that's all we have time for"
before anymore ranting could be done
 
Julia said:
No doubt entirely true.
I just preferred John Howard's more dignified, restrained style.
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He's was able to manage that by having other people do his dirty work (including Tony Abbott). He'd stand above the fray while his surrogates got their hands dirty.
 
banco said:
He's was able to manage that by having other people do his dirty work (including Tony Abbott). He'd stand above the fray while his surrogates got their hands dirty.
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Peter Reith comes to mind
 
Yes I remember a few political writers at the time saying that a mark of Turnbull's political amateurism was that he got so publicly involved in the Godwin Gresch affair and that Howard would never have made that mistake. Pushing it would have been outsourced to a backbencher.
 
Well all that will pale into insignificance if the Thomson, Gillard endemic union rorting comes to the fore.
It would make work choices look like childs play.LOL
 
sptrawler said:
Well all that will pale into insignificance if the Thomson, Gillard endemic union rorting comes to the fore.
It would make work choices look like childs play.LOL
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Labor when it puts its mind to something makes any effort by anyone else look like childs play.

It's a tragedy their current idiology is not aligned with the best interest of our country.
 
This is a pretty good example of the bias of ABC - only one mention of Gillard trying to turn a negative into a positive and the rest (all negative) on Abbott.

How do they get away with such blatant bias when the majority of taxpayers are upset with this government and taxpayers pay for the ABC? Surely they should be more impartial than this and, better still, respect the wishes of the majority.

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Reader Peter has gone to Insiders’ website and collected all the segment descriptors which refer to either Abbott or Gillard for this graph of the AbbottAbbottAbbott phenomenon -Abbott mentions to the left, Gillard to the right
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The ABC’s AbbottAbbottAbbott Show

That, friends, from the allegedly impartial and taxpayer-funded ABC, is absolutely astonishing.
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I have persisted with Insiders as I used to enjoy it but since the government has changed the show has changed. They used to get stuck into the Howard governement no holes barred, but now they seem much softer on the Gillard government. That coupled with the fact that they rarely have on any right leaning commentators anymore (I guess they liked heckling them when the Coalition was in power, not so much fun to have them on the show when Labor are in government) means it's hardly worth watching.
 
Agree that the Left bias on Insiders is very obvious. It used to be a 'must watch' for me, but not now.
Especially when the odious David Marr is on.
 
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2012/s3578963.htm

CHRIS UHLMANN: So, three years from now, Australia's carbon price, now locked at $23 a tonne, will float and be set in the European marketplace to rise as high or fall as low as the market wills. This is widely seen as a good thing.
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No Chris, it's not fixed at $23 a tonne. It rises each year at CPI + 2,5% until it floats in 2015.

The fixed price The carbon price will start at $23.00 per tonne in 2012-13 and will be $24.15 in 2013-14 and $25.40 in 2014-15. The prices in the second and third year reflect a 2.5 per cent rise in real terms allowing for 2.5 per cent inflation per year (the midpoint of the Reserve Bank of Australia’s target range).
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http://www.cleanenergyfuture.gov.au/clean-energy-future/securing-a-clean-energy-future/appendices/
 
Had to turn off Insiders this morning; compere, guest and panel 100% to the left. Perhaps Insiders is part of the Labor's dirt unit, "Get Abbott" campaign.
 
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