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Gillard said before the election that she would propose a carbon pricing scheme, didn't she? The quote from the Australian demonstrates that she did so before the election. Correct?

She must have said that to Tim in the dark because that's not what we remember and not what she admitted to doing and retracting when on Q@A (see video above)

At 2.06 through to 2.19 and just after that.
 
She must have said that to Tim in the dark because that's not what we remember and not what she admitted to doing and retracting when on Q@A (see video above)

It was in the Australian. You're not getting away with that.

I'm going to track down that interview and see for myself. The point is, she did not lie about a "Carbon Tax", what she did do was change her mind about the consultative assembly.

Isn't that correct? If so, and if you care about honesty so much, I expect to not see you complain about the carbon tax lie anymore.

Correct?

By all means, continue to complain about the assembly not happening and how she should have spent that money doing it. It's a fair and valid criticism that she did not hold that assembly.
 

Watch the video and the times I posted.
 
Watch the video and the times I posted.

I have which is why I am following up on what that interview referred to. I'm betting it referred to the assembly but given that they cut it so short, we can't know until we find the interview. Ironically though, it won't matter because we have proof of what she said independent of that interview.

Are you, or are you not conceding the following:

Julia Gillard stated before the election that she wanted to introduce a carbon pricing scheme?


Link.
 

Q and A 14th March 2011 - she admits she walked away from that commitment..........she lied.
 
Are you, or are you not conceding the following:

Julia Gillard stated before the election that she wanted to introduce a carbon pricing scheme?



Link.

The funny thing is, the issue of if she lied or didn't lie has been lost in the dismal failure of the policy.
Much like everything else they've done.
 
Q and A 14th March 2011 - she admits she walked away from that commitment..........she lied.

I said I am checking what that actually referred to. Are you unable to concede that independent of that interview, The Australian holds record of Julia Gillard stating that she intends to implement a carbon price?

Seriously.
 
The funny thing is, the issue of if she lied or didn't lie has been lost in the dismal failure of the policy.
Much like everything else they've done.

Exactly. There are so many valid criticisms, again whether we agree or not is almost irrelevant, but people will never be able to hold discussions about those if they can't even acknowledge that she said something which is on the public record.
 
I said I am checking what that actually referred to. Are you unable to concede that The Australian holds record of Julia Gillard stating that she intends to implement a carbon price?

Seriously.

I think her major lie on the eve of the election supersedes that, she lied to get votes and it worked.
 
I think her major lie on the eve of the election supersedes that, she lied to get votes and it worked.

It's a yes or no answer.

Did Julia Gillard state before the election that she intended to implement a carbon pricing scheme.

That you can't answer that simple question when proof is put in front of you, says everything anyone needs to know. When you can answer that question, we will continue.

And I am reading the 14 March 2011 transcript now.
 
Not sure if this has been posted - waded through many posts and can't see it so apologies if it's been put up. But here's an interesting poll:




http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...vey_confirms_all_you_suspected_about_the_abc/

http://theconversation.com/whose-vi...y to vote out Labor while reporters lean left
 
Q and A 14th March 2011 - she admits she walked away from that commitment..........she lied.

I think the lie you are referring to is her bringing forward the carbon price instead of 2013 times frame/next term that she originally referred to.

I will try and get proof of this.
 
Not sure if this has been posted - waded through many posts and can't see it so apologies if it's been put up. But here's an interesting poll:

Did you read the second link? In particular the study author's comment about the lack of link between voting intention and bias was interesting as well. I hope Andrew Bolt updates his blog post according. The News Limited figures were impressive if one wants to look at the ABC in that context.
 

Thanks sails,

Mr Burns, have a look at the numbers on the table. The majority of journalists at all other institutions said they would vote for Labour. Are these institutions biased too?
 
Don't care the big lie superseded that anyway.

You're just not interested in the truth are you. So why should anyone care about your complaints regarding someone else's honesty. Look at how hard it is to get you to acknowledge simple black and white reality.
 
Thanks sails,

Mr Burns, have a look at the numbers on the table. The majority of journalists at all other institutions said they would vote for Labour. Are these institutions biased too?

They're probably on bludging Labor grants, dunno, don't care see you on Sept 14th

You're just not interested in the truth are you. So why should anyone care about your complaints regarding someone else's honesty.

The truth is she lied and admitted it on Q and A..........get over it
 
Does anyone else understand what this big lie that supersedes the other one is? I'm nearly finished this transcript but that has me confused.
 
And you were calling me an child that did not stand to reason ...

You're grasping at straws trying to win points that don't matter, look at the big picture, she is a failure of the highest order surrounded by lap dogs who will support her.
 
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