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basilio said:
That was an outstanding personal story from Leigh Sales on the poison that on line media and Twitter unleashes on journalists doing their job.

Their job is to question without fear or favour people in power about what they are doing when running the country. So clearly they have to take a rigorous questioning approach to all politicians - otherwise they are not doing their job.

I read that story carefully. It was interesting that for much of the story it focused on the hate campaign waged against the ABC in general and then individual presenters including the vile rubbish she was continually served up. She noted the use by political parties of proxies to attack her and others.

The comments towards the end that IFocus quoted were a reminder that haters and trollers are not just from one side of the political spectrum. Well worth putting in. IF the rest of the article is also acknowledged as very troubling. :2twocents
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I was pretty disgusted by the antics exposed in Leigh's story.

On the other hand I find myself banned from posting on most but the most trivial ABC stories on a couple of their Facebook sites. This is pretty unacceptable to me as I have never disparaged any ABC journalist and have actually complimented some. It amounts to censorship of reasonable content.

I've said for some time that the ABC using commercial social media sites was a mistake. If the ABC allows social commentary then it should employ their own moderators and be responsible for their own content instead of passing the buck to commercial operators.
 
The ABC and other media, could do worse than read some of that which they print and take notice.
Sometimes some people just get it. :2twocents

www.abc.net.au

Billy Connolly says life with Parkinson's disease 'has its moments'

Comedian Billy Connolly was diagnosed with Parkinson's disease in 2013. While he tries not to dwell on his diagnosis, he admits it has been challenging.
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From the article:

The 78-year-old now resides in Florida with his wife Pamela, but says if he was a younger man he would happily live in Australia.

"I love Australia," he tells 7.30.

"It's a beautiful country and ... the treasure it has is its optimism.

"It has optimism, and not many people have [that]. Most people are living in misery."
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Connolly says in his early days working at a Glasgow shipyard, he never understood why the workers were so negative.

"They didn't like being welders, and they didn't like where they lived, and they didn't like their wives," he says.

"I never understood it. There was a lack of optimism, the [lack of] caring about the future."
 
Late breaking news.:laugh:

Peter Dutton named new ABC news anchor

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Defence Minister Peter Dutton’s portfolio has been extended to including hosting ABC’s seven o’clock bulletin, in a move designed to ensure Australians hear the right news.

Mr Dutton – who will take on the role in addition to his existing responsibilities – has extensive media experience and is seen as having a better grasp than his predecessors of the types of stories Australians should hear.

“Peter will decide what news comes in, and the circumstances in which it comes,” a colleague explained, saying it was a coup for the ABC. “The ABC will really set the agenda with Dutton behind the desk,” he said.

A senior ABC executive said it was a positive step for the national broadcaster, and part of the ABC’s vision to appeal to a broader range of Australian MPs. “I think it’s true that we have become a bit niche, that we’ve been slow to modernise. And I think it’s fair to say we’ve lost sight of what Australian Governments in the 21st Century want from their news”.

www.theshovel.com.au

Peter Dutton named new ABC news anchor — The Shovel

"It's important that Australians hear the right news"
www.theshovel.com.au www.theshovel.com.au
 
Great idea.
At least with Dutton, if we don't like the way he is doing his job, and letting the wrong sort of news through, we can vote him out at the next election.
Which of course is exactly the opposite of the current set of unelected self serving egos. who run the ABC.
Mick
 
basilio said:
Late breaking news.:laugh:

Peter Dutton named new ABC news anchor

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Defence Minister Peter Dutton’s portfolio has been extended to including hosting ABC’s seven o’clock bulletin, in a move designed to ensure Australians hear the right news.

Mr Dutton – who will take on the role in addition to his existing responsibilities – has extensive media experience and is seen as having a better grasp than his predecessors of the types of stories Australians should hear.

“Peter will decide what news comes in, and the circumstances in which it comes,” a colleague explained, saying it was a coup for the ABC. “The ABC will really set the agenda with Dutton behind the desk,” he said.

A senior ABC executive said it was a positive step for the national broadcaster, and part of the ABC’s vision to appeal to a broader range of Australian MPs. “I think it’s true that we have become a bit niche, that we’ve been slow to modernise. And I think it’s fair to say we’ve lost sight of what Australian Governments in the 21st Century want from their news”.

www.theshovel.com.au

Peter Dutton named new ABC news anchor — The Shovel

"It's important that Australians hear the right news"
www.theshovel.com.au www.theshovel.com.au
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He's obviously the new anker, as opposed to the old one.
 
basilio said:
Late breaking news.:laugh:

Peter Dutton named new ABC news anchor

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Defence Minister Peter Dutton’s portfolio has been extended to including hosting ABC’s seven o’clock bulletin, in a move designed to ensure Australians hear the right news.

Mr Dutton – who will take on the role in addition to his existing responsibilities – has extensive media experience and is seen as having a better grasp than his predecessors of the types of stories Australians should hear.

“Peter will decide what news comes in, and the circumstances in which it comes,” a colleague explained, saying it was a coup for the ABC. “The ABC will really set the agenda with Dutton behind the desk,” he said.

A senior ABC executive said it was a positive step for the national broadcaster, and part of the ABC’s vision to appeal to a broader range of Australian MPs. “I think it’s true that we have become a bit niche, that we’ve been slow to modernise. And I think it’s fair to say we’ve lost sight of what Australian Governments in the 21st Century want from their news”.

www.theshovel.com.au

Peter Dutton named new ABC news anchor — The Shovel

"It's important that Australians hear the right news"
www.theshovel.com.au www.theshovel.com.au
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it would be hilarious if Mr photo head was an ABC news anchor!
what id give to be a fly on the wall just to see the looks on the faces of those useless marxist ABC employees
 
The ABC is not having a good time of late.
They have had a few problems with some shoddy reporting, but now a slightly bigger problem has been uncovered.
From Veteran Support Forum

Over a year ago, on 20 October 2020, the ABC published an article based on the account of a US Marine who alleged that November Platoon of the 2nd Commando Regiment had executed a “prisoner” in Afghanistan in “mid-2012”.

In this story, the ABC stated that, “A United States Marine Corps (USMC) helicopter crew chief says Australian special forces shot and killed a bound Afghan prisoner after being told he would not fit on the US aircraft coming to pick them up.”

This is an appalling and preposterous lie. The ABC should be ashamed of this failing of basic journalistic practice.

The entire story is based on the account of one man who insists on using a pseudonym yet, bizarrely, agrees to have his face shown.

This ‘former Marine’ claims he saw members of November Platoon “tackle and hogtie” seven prisoners then, upon being told that a US helicopter only had room for six prisoners, “And you just heard this silence and then we heard a pop. And then they said, ‘OK, we have six prisoners’. So it was pretty apparent to everybody involved in that mission that they had just killed a prisoner that we had just watched them catch and hogtie.”

The impact of this story has been immense, particularly given that it was published on the evening of October 20, 2020, dominating the news cycle on the following day.

That day, 21 October 2020, was the eighth anniversary of the death of Corporal Scott Smith, who was a member of the November Platoon Group, and therefore one of the accused in your article.

This story was based on the unsubstantiated claims of one US Marine whose account cannot form the basis for the assertions made by the ABC. In the following 12 months there has been no follow up or correction to the published story.

November Platoon is calling for:
A request a written apology from the ABC and the reporters to the men and families of November Platoon.
  1. A call for an independent review of the ABC story published on October 20, 2020.
  2. A call for the ABC to publish a full correction to this story including an unqualified, genuine apology to the members of November Platoon.
To view the full letter click on the file below or click here.


5th November 2021



We finally heard from the ABC and it was less than encouraging, let alone what we would expect. They informed us that the ABC’s internal review policy required complaints to be raised within 6 weeks of the story being published.

Despite our 10 page letter (above) we were asked why any additional consideration should be given to warrant such a review.

Here is our response to their lacklustre efforts as we continue to seek accountability – Click here

We can now reveal the evidence that proves this story has been manufactured or at the bare minimum, not investigated anywhere near the required level of accuracy or integrity.


19th November 2021

Update – continue reading below for ABC’s excellent #fakenews story and the real response from Defence.


Is this now the journalistic standards accepted within our taxpayer funded media?

The ABC came out with an article implying that they received a specific response that November Platoon is under a criminal investigation, but per the Defence response, this could actually mean that the release of the requested information could impact on another or any other allegations under investigation.

It says that there is “a current investigation of a possible breach of law” without naming any platoon and as per the ongoing OSI investigation into all allegations in general.
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By far the biggest problem for the ABC comes from one of the November platoon members who appears in a You tube video
November platoon did not arrive in Afghanistan until mid July, and did not even commence operations until mid August of 2012.
Records show that November Platoon did not commence operations in the province where the murder was supposed to have taken place until November 2012, some two months later.
The really galling part about al of this is that neither the ABC or its reporters contacted any of the November platoon members.
And in what is even more galling, is that the defence department nor veterans affairs had contacted any of the platoons members up to the time the video was made.
I marched against the Vietnam war when at Uni, much to my parents horror.
I was eligible for the Vietnam era conscription, but did not get called up.
Some of my friends did.
The way they were treated when they returned mad me feel ashamed, not for marching against the war, but for the way they were discarded and abandoned and were made scapegoats for a disastrous war when they had little or no choice in the matter.
At least in the next fruitless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan there were no conscripts.
It seems that times have not changed much.
Mick
 
mullokintyre said:
The ABC is not having a good time of late.
They have had a few problems with some shoddy reporting, but now a slightly bigger problem has been uncovered.
From Veteran Support Forum


By far the biggest problem for the ABC comes from one of the November platoon members who appears in a You tube video
November platoon did not arrive in Afghanistan until mid July, and did not even commence operations until mid August of 2012.
Records show that November Platoon did not commence operations in the province where the murder was supposed to have taken place until November 2012, some two months later.
The really galling part about al of this is that neither the ABC or its reporters contacted any of the November platoon members.
And in what is even more galling, is that the defence department nor veterans affairs had contacted any of the platoons members up to the time the video was made.
I marched against the Vietnam war when at Uni, much to my parents horror.
I was eligible for the Vietnam era conscription, but did not get called up.
Some of my friends did.
The way they were treated when they returned mad me feel ashamed, not for marching against the war, but for the way they were discarded and abandoned and were made scapegoats for a disastrous war when they had little or no choice in the matter.
At least in the next fruitless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan there were no conscripts.
It seems that times have not changed much.
Mick
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+1 from me.
 
I suspect our resident leftists might want to push back on this, but the IPA has an ongoing series about problems with the ABC.

It's actually pretty interesting and obviously I'm listening from a centre right point of view, and I think a lot of the points, especially in regards to metropolitan vs regional stations is really spot on.
 
wayneL said:
I suspect our resident leftists might want to push back on this, but the IPA has an ongoing series about problems with the ABC.

It's actually pretty interesting and obviously I'm listening from a centre right point of view, and I think a lot of the points, especially in regards to metropolitan vs regional stations is really spot on.
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You wouldn't expect the IPA to be pro ABC since the IPA's policy is to privatise it, but in my opinion the ABC is becoming too woke, too PC , and not concentrating enough on the common needs of all the population.

Have a look at the ABC's home page and it looks more like a women's magazine than a news site. The ABC appears to think that it should be a spokesperson for minorities when in reality we all share the same needs regardless of what our ethnicities or religions are and that should be reflected by the ABC.

The ABC was totally biased in the gay marriage issue, giving overwhelming coverage to the yes side while almost completely ignoring the alternative view. It concentrated on picking winners rather than giving both sides a fair go.

If you try and put a comment on some of the ABC's Facebook page and say something "unwoke", you get banned, I know it happened to me.

Some of the stories say the ABC have 'restricted who can post on this topic' ! That's unacceptable in a democracy.

I usually support the ABC, but their bias is becoming obvious and irritating, even to me as a "hard core Lefty" (eh wayne ;) ).

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And I've said it before. I'd share a beer with anyone on here.... Face to face, it's easier to see each other's point of view.

So that's genuine, even with bas, red, humid, whomever.
 
wayneL said:
And I've said it before. I'd share a beer with anyone on here.... Face to face, it's easier to see each other's point of view.

So that's genuine, even with bas, red, humid, whomever.
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moXJO said:
They are actually some of my favourite posters. But God I love giving them stick.




If we didn't have posters with differing views, the forum wouldn't survive, it would be as boring as duck $hit.

As long as we can have robust debate, that doesn't degenerate into name calling, it helps broaden our perspective on subjects.

That is the really endearing quality of ASF, it very seldom falls into infantile mud slinging, which is the reason we have so many long term quality contributors IMO.
 
For all those ASF members who care to add to the debate, the ABC has announced that it will allow the general public to make submissions to the independent enquiry into the complaints processes of the ABC.
Andrew Bragg , who had announce a senate enquiry into the complaints process before getting shutdown by his own party is taking the credit for forcing the ABC into allowing the general public to make submissions.
It may or may not be true, but is also irrelevant.
When the ABC announced the inquiry, the terms of reference made no mention of the allowance for public input.
The change in the terms may have been prompted by outside influences, but what most important is that us long suffering owners of the ABC will get to have our twenty cents worth.
The announcement of the change in terms came via The Oz which is not surprising as they are the dreaded Murdoch Press .
However, I failed to find a similar announcement on the ABC website.
Mick
 
The ABC Chair was appointed by a Coalition government. She must have been a good girl in a past life.
Nice bit of retirement superannuation. Easy money, as everyone knows the staff collectorate runs the place.

She came out of private enterprise. From which she'd long have been sacked by now -on performance basis to the ABC Charter.

$1.1Billion p.a -paid by taxpayers to the ABC, just fyi Ita. By taxpayers Ita.

Ita Idle.
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basilio said:
Late breaking news.:laugh:

Peter Dutton named new ABC news anchor

View attachment 132985
Defence Minister Peter Dutton’s portfolio has been extended to including hosting ABC’s seven o’clock bulletin, in a move designed to ensure Australians hear the right news.

Mr Dutton – who will take on the role in addition to his existing responsibilities – has extensive media experience and is seen as having a better grasp than his predecessors of the types of stories Australians should hear.

“Peter will decide what news comes in, and the circumstances in which it comes,” a colleague explained, saying it was a coup for the ABC. “The ABC will really set the agenda with Dutton behind the desk,” he said.

A senior ABC executive said it was a positive step for the national broadcaster, and part of the ABC’s vision to appeal to a broader range of Australian MPs. “I think it’s true that we have become a bit niche, that we’ve been slow to modernise. And I think it’s fair to say we’ve lost sight of what Australian Governments in the 21st Century want from their news”.

www.theshovel.com.au

Peter Dutton named new ABC news anchor — The Shovel

"It's important that Australians hear the right news"
www.theshovel.com.au www.theshovel.com.au
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Good post Bas. Although I actually like and support Dutton, we all need to lighten up sometimes!
 
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