ABC is Political

[sptrawler]

Another example of the same hypocrisy, it's a shame Kerry wasn't still working.
Only the ABC are allowed to be deeply insensitive, disrespectful and divisive, but hey it is only national television.?

NoCookies | The Australian

www.theaustralian.com.au

From the article:
An ABC reporter has been lashed on social media for speaking during a minute’s silence at an Invasion Day rally in Hobart.

 

[sptrawler]

Well in my opinion Mark McGowan will romp in the W.A election, but just in case the ABC seem to be starting a witch hunt , much like the Margaret Court fiasco.

WA Liberal leader blocks questions on election candidate's views on homosexuality

WA Opposition Leader Zak Kirkup refuses to let one of his candidates answer questions about her views on homosexuality at a press conference just a day after another candidate was forced to resign over her views on 5G and coronavirus.

www.abc.net.au

From the article:
WA Opposition Leader Zak Kirkup has prevented the media from questioning one of his candidates about her views on homosexuality at a press conference, just a day after another candidate was forced to resign over her views on 5G and coronavirus.
One day after Liberal Party candidate Andrea Tokaji quit over her apparent endorsement of baseless COVID-19 conspiracy theories, a journalist attempted to question the party's Victoria Park candidate Amanda-Sue Markham over her husband's writings about homosexuality.
Her pastor husband, Campbell Markham, has previously written that he "disagrees with homosexual practice", labelling it "unhealthy".


And the death spiral continues.
This isn't going to end well IMO.
Alienating people who have christian views, is no different to any other form of alienation, it usually ends in tears.
Just my opinion, but is alienating Christians for their beliefs any different from alienating jews, homosexuals, muslims etc for their beliefs?
I feel I'm blessed, because I'm a hetrosexual atheist. ?
I have one each way, when one group run down the street with pitchforks looking for Christians, I'm ok.
When the other group run down the street with pitchforks, looking for sinners I'm ok.
I'm on the fence don't give a ratz, but I do think I shouldn't be paying for the ABC, if they are going to use my money to fund one of the pitchfork crews. ?
I just wish they would spend the money on updating the Bargain Hunt series, Endeavour , Inspector Morse etc.
Then at least my other half would be happy.
That is the problem the ABC thinks it is supplying a service, but it never asks its viewers what they want to watch, yet it is the viewers who are funding it.
All very weird.

 

[SirRumpole]

All very weird.

And tiresome. As we have discussed before, the ABC has been PC for quite some time, feeling it has to "tell the stories" of certain groups while ignoring the middle ground.

Investigative journalism has gone out the window in most cases being replaced by propaganda.

The young journos have been trained in schools run by Left Wing unions to make sure they never offend anyone , unless it's the white male, middle / upper classes who obviously deserve everything they get, the bastards.

 

[sptrawler]

And tiresome. As we have discussed before, the ABC has been PC for quite some time, feeling it has to "tell the stories" of certain groups while ignoring the middle ground.

Investigative journalism has gone out the window in most cases being replaced by propaganda.

The young journos have been trained in schools run by Left Wing unions to make sure they never offend anyone , unless it's the white male, middle / upper classes who obviously deserve everything they get, the bastards.

I sometimes wonder if their obvious bias isn't orchestrated, to justify their privatisation, it is just weird.
But then again looking from another angle, if the media will end up being cable via NBN, the pay to view model really wouldn't work for the ABC not enough people watch it.
So maybe the end game is to pizz enough of the population, to make it ok to float it off, then someone else other than the taxpayer wears the cost when it goes under. ?

 

[SirRumpole]

The ABC needs to upgrade the education of some of its reporters.

Statement on ABC news this morning.

"The Hunter valley is looking to make steel with hydrogen not coal".

Is this even technically possible ?

My research suggests that there is no way to make steel without coal at this point in time. Will there ever be one in the future ?

 

[basilio]

The ABC needs to upgrade the education of some of its reporters.

Statement on ABC news this morning.

"The Hunter valley is looking to make steel with hydrogen not coal".

Is this even technically possible ?

My research suggests that there is no way to make steel without coal at this point in time. Will there ever be one in the future ?

It is technically possible Rumpy and in fact there is a pilot steel plant already doing so.

There is a fair way to go before it becomes cost effective but the road map exists.

Swedish Steelmaker Uses Hydrogen Instead Of Coal To Make Fossil-Free Steel

Swedish company HYBRIT hopes to decarbonize an industry responsible for some 5-8% of the globe’s carbon dioxide emissions.

www.forbes.com

 

[SirRumpole]

It is technically possible Rumpy and in fact there is a pilot steel plant already doing so.

There is a fair way to go before it becomes cost effective but the road map exists.

Swedish Steelmaker Uses Hydrogen Instead Of Coal To Make Fossil-Free Steel

Swedish company HYBRIT hopes to decarbonize an industry responsible for some 5-8% of the globe’s carbon dioxide emissions.

www.forbes.com

Thanks for that bas.


I thought that steel = iron + carbon, so it's a new one on me.

I apologise to the ABC reporter.

 

[Smurf1976]

It is technically possible Rumpy and in fact there is a pilot steel plant already doing so.

There is a fair way to go before it becomes cost effective but the road map exists.[/URL]

I think the problem is that the ABC, and some other media outlets, could fairly be accused of over-reporting on the whole climate issue.

By "over-reporting" I mean presenting things as news which, whilst perhaps valid in themselves, are not actual news.

News = something happened. Something physically occurred, someone made some sort of announcement about what's going to happen or is now happening, something has been invented or discovered, someone's gone broke or whatever but "something happened".

A random article on climate change, not based on any announcement by government or business or on any new scientific information being announced, does not fit a reasonable definition of "news" even if the article has merit in itself.

Now the ABC and the Age rarely go more than a day or two without a climate change story presented as "news". Some are actual news, many are just an old story re run or are simply a general article on the subject. That's not balanced news reporting - fine if they want to publish it, just don't suggest it's news if it isn't news.

Those who've noticed this will likely tend to be a bit wary of all stories of that nature, thinking "here we go again" even if one of them actually is real news. The "boy who cried wolf" scenario at work there.

I say that as someone who's by no means in denial on the subject. It's just that I prefer news organisations to report actual news and that anything else they say, whilst fine as such, should be clearly distinguished as a feature article, opinion or whatever and not masquerade as news which it isn't.

 

[Smurf1976]

the ABC has been PC for quite some time, feeling it has to "tell the stories" of certain groups while ignoring the middle ground.

To be fair though, has it ever been any different?

Growing up not in a big city and family not having the $ to be traveling to one, my teenage perception of Sydney in particular came largely via the media.

First time I went there, an adult by that point, I was somewhat surprised to find that there isn't actually a drug dealer standing around every street corner and that the place isn't completely choked in smog.

The media portrayal of the city was a very long way from actual reality and in hindsight was basically a very "Left" view of the world. Normalising drug use and lamenting pollution of the air - decades later and those are still prominent themes today.

Artists, media etc have always tended to be politically Left at least from what I've seen. The ABC is often cited as an example is but go and talk to any sort of visual artists or even in music and odds are you'll find they're that way inclined politically. Exceptions as with anything but a lot seem to be.

 

[SirRumpole]

I think the problem is that the ABC, and some other media outlets, could fairly be accused of over-reporting on the whole climate issue.

By "over-reporting" I mean presenting things as news which, whilst perhaps valid in themselves, are not actual news.

News = something happened. Something physically occurred, someone made some sort of announcement about what's going to happen or is now happening, something has been invented or discovered, someone's gone broke or whatever but "something happened".

Yes, but I think it's also the media's job to go behind the news and provide some analysis.

The big problem there of course is that you get the analysis containing the bias of the analyst.

I was waiting for my car to be serviced the other day and read The Telegraph for the first time in years. They haven't changed, still bagging Labor and boosting Liberal. They probably give the "news", but what they don't report is often just as important as what they do report.

I'm getting really frustrated at the standard of all media these days. Even some of the ABC reporters seem just out of school, or have been employed because they fit into a certain group and struggle to put a coherent sentence together, much less to provide any insight.

The real thing missing is actual data. Of course the facts can always be fudged, but I'd like to see the media actually do the digging, present what they see as the facts, and take the risk that someone else will challenge them. If they have done their jobs properly they should be confident enough to "publish or be damned".

 

[SirRumpole]

Artists, media etc have always tended to be politically Left at least from what I've seen. The ABC is often cited as an example is but go and talk to any sort of visual artists or even in music and odds are you'll find they're that way inclined politically. Exceptions as with anything but a lot seem to be.

I think artists are probably Left untill they make it big time, when they start whinging about the taxes they pay.

 

[Smurf1976]

I think it's also the media's job to go behind the news and provide some analysis.

Agreed - just make it clear that's what it is, don't present it among the news headlines.

As an example, if someone ran a feature article on the stock market and put it as the headline news story with the words "STOCK MARKET CRASH" then most would be thinking that the market has in fact crashed or is crashing right now. Totally inappropriate scaremongering if it's just a background article on the share market pointing out that crashes are a thing and can occur but not referring to anything that's happening at present.

Same with any subject - it's misleading to report something as news if in fact it's just background research etc. Nothing wrong with reporting it, just don't put it in with the current news and portray it as such.

 

[SirRumpole]

Agreed - just make it clear that's what it is, don't present it among the news headlines.

As an example, if someone ran a feature article on the stock market and put it as the headline news story with the words "STOCK MARKET CRASH" then most would be thinking that the market has in fact crashed or is crashing right now. Totally inappropriate scaremongering if it's just a background article on the share market pointing out that crashes are a thing and can occur but not referring to anything that's happening at present.

Same with any subject - it's misleading to report something as news if in fact it's just background research etc. Nothing wrong with reporting it, just don't put it in with the current news and portray it as such.

Indeed.

I was pondering why we get so much about climate change,arts, racism and other social subjects on the ABC and it occurred to me that people in well paid secure government jobs might have different priorities to those who have to hold down a job or run a business in difficult economic conditions.

The last election pretty well showed that the average worker is more concerned about his own financial position and his/her future prospects and those of their children rather than more peripheral issues or subjects that they feel are outside their control.

That's one thing that the Labor party hasn't cottoned onto either.

 

[sptrawler]

Indeed.

I was pondering why we get so much about climate change,arts, racism and other social subjects on the ABC and it occurred to me that people in well paid secure government jobs might have different priorities to those who have to hold down a job or run a business in difficult economic conditions.

The last election pretty well showed that the average worker is more concerned about his own financial position and his/her future prospects and those of their children rather than more peripheral issues or subjects that they feel are outside their control.

That's one thing that the Labor party hasn't cottoned onto either.

You have absolutely nailed it Rumpy, the ones who have so much to say, are usually those who have most to gain or little to lose, one of my mates in on a public service pension, he doesn't know what everyone is complaining about.
60% of the final average salary indexed for life, I wouldn't have complained about Shorten and Bowen, if I was on that sort of pension either.
Workers just want to be treated fairly, if the Government wants more from them fine, as long as everyone else is doing their bit.
What really annoys workers is, working in crap conditions in some god forsaken place and then being told those on welfare are precious and the workers are lucky and should pay more.
That really does their heads in.?

 

[Smurf1976]

What really annoys workers is, working in crap conditions in some god forsaken place and then being told those on welfare are precious and the workers are lucky and should pay more.
That really does their heads in.?

Even if the employer is excellent as such that still applies if the work involves harsh physical conditions and so on.

Manual labour jobs during a heatwave or working outdoors during winter in the rain aren't fun no matter what, there's simply no way around that and if the job has to be done well the job has to be done. On with the show.....

 

[SirRumpole]

On 15/4/2021 The ABC 7:30 program presented a report that effectively allowed itself to make serious allegations unsupported by evidence that a coronial inquest had 'got it wrong' in relation to the death of a man in Tamworth prison.

The family of the man was interviewed and the reporter said that the family "do not accept" the result of the Inquest.

So the question is, what enquiries did the ABC make before airing that story to ensure itself that the family's claims had some merit ?

No evidence was given to refute the findings of a professional coroner, the word of the family was accepted without question.

This seems yet another example of the ABC's reduction to being a provider of propaganda rather than facts, telling one side of the story without balance.

For a corporation renowned for it's 'investigative' journalism, it seems very little investigation was done for this story.

This is the program, the segment is at the 14 minute mark.

https://iview.abc.net.au/video/NC2101H060S00

 

[sptrawler]

On 15/4/2021 The ABC 7:30 program presented a report that effectively allowed itself to make serious allegations unsupported by evidence that a coronial inquest had 'got it wrong' in relation to the death of a man in Tamworth prison.

The family of the man was interviewed and the reporter said that the family "do not accept" the result of the Inquest.

So the question is, what enquiries did the ABC make before airing that story to ensure itself that the family's claims had some merit ?

No evidence was given to refute the findings of a professional coroner, the word of the family was accepted without question.

This seems yet another example of the ABC's reduction to being a provider of propaganda rather than facts, telling one side of the story without balance.

For a corporation renowned for it's 'investigative' journalism, it seems very little investigation was done for this story.

This is the program, the segment is at the 14 minute mark.

https://iview.abc.net.au/video/NC2101H060S00

These days it seems to be about quantity, not quality and if it is anti establishment anything goes at the moment.
The media is a law unto itself these days, well that is how it appears to me and may well be the reason they find themselves in court on a quite regular basis.

 

[SirRumpole]

These days it seems to be about quantity, not quality and if it is anti establishment anything goes at the moment.
The media is a law unto itself these days, well that is how it appears to me and may well be the reason they find themselves in court on a quite regular basis.

Yes, the lot of them seem to have gone feral.

The ABC sticks it into the LNP and Murdoch stick it into Labor.

Very little unbiased reporting these days.

 

[sptrawler]

Yes, the lot of them seem to have gone feral.

The ABC sticks it into the LNP and Murdoch stick it into Labor.

Very little unbiased reporting these days.

Well it sounds like the dance troupe, certainly aren't happy with the ABC exploiting them, sounds as though PC gone ape. ?
ABC slagging of a dance group as being seedy, lol, maybe the ABC should go to the ballet that gets raunchy, maybe take 60 minutes with them. ?
They could probably get the ballet shut down, for exploitation of minimally clad ladies, being manhandled by dominant men with exaggerated and aggressively suggestive cod pieces. ? ? ? ?

Sydney dancers claim ABC video of naval performance ‘amounts to upskirting’

A Sydney dance group vilified over a video of their performance at the commissioning of a new navy ship want a public apology from the ABC.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Smurf1976]

Well it sounds like the dance troupe, certainly aren't happy with the ABC exploiting them, sounds as though PC gone ape. ?

Trouble with all this is it's so trivial and pedantic that it's guaranteed to ultimately trip up everyone who gets involved with it.