2013 Federal Election: 7 September 2013

bunyip · 31 August 2013

What perplexes me is why Kevin Rudd was ever seen as ‘popular’.
Rudd was so unpopular with Australians that Labor was headed for a certain landslide defeat in the last election if they’d stuck with him.
He was so unpopular within Labor ranks that his own party turned against him and tossed him out.
He was and still is so unpopular within his own party that many of his colleagues have publicly subjected him to scathing criticism.

Despite his well documented unpopularity, it seems that many people took pity on Rudd over the backhanded way that his own party got rid of him last time.
This pity appears to have been mistaken for popularity. The current election campaign is showing us, however, that Rudd’s so called ‘popularity’ is very hollow indeed.

Only one week to go until the ‘popularity’ myth surrounding Kevin Rudd is put to rest once and for all.

IFocus · 31 August 2013

More Labor bias reporting

The Economist backs Kevin Rudd for 'second turn'

Some thing we already know

he Economist has hesitantly thrown its support behind Kevin Rudd as the nation gears up to head to the polls next week, declaring that the Labor Party's "decent record" in recent years makes it the best party to face the challenges of the future.

While acknowledging that the Liberal-National coalition is the natural home of The Economist's vote, the magazine says in an editorial due to be published on Saturday that it has broken with tradition and endorsed Mr Rudd, although "the choice for voters, frankly, is not great".

Oh dear black hole anyone

Liberal leader Tony Abbott "does not seem an instinctive fan of markets", the editorial says, and had not explained how he would pay for a federal scheme for paid parental leave, one of the few key policies he has announced.

"The main mark against Labor's policy card is that it has shifted a long way towards Mr Abbott's position on asylum-seekers. Aside from that, it has a reasonable record," the editorial says, pointing to Labor's management of the economy and introduction of popular social programs including the national disability insurance scheme and the national broadband network.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...second-turn-20130830-2svda.html#ixzz2dUyyzbv8

You really know you are backing a real loser (Abbott)when The Economist backs Rudd sheezers even I don't think much of Rudd.

Oh well Abbott will be PM and Australia will become know as having voted in a brainless Tosser for PM such is life.

Carry on with the ranting everyone enjoy it while you can.

dutchie · 31 August 2013

IFocus said:
More Labor bias reporting

The Economist backs Kevin Rudd for 'second turn'

Some thing we already know

Oh dear black hole anyone

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...second-turn-20130830-2svda.html#ixzz2dUyyzbv8

You really know you are backing a real loser (Abbott)when The Economist backs Rudd sheezers even I don't think much of Rudd.

Oh well Abbott will be PM and Australia will become know as having voted in a brainless Tosser for PM such is life.

Carry on with the ranting everyone enjoy it while you can.

A "brainless Tosser" is still 100 levels up from Krudd

drsmith · 31 August 2013

IFocus said:
More Labor bias reporting

Yes.

IFocus said:
The Economist backs Kevin Rudd for 'second turn'

From the above linked article.

It would be nice if he revived his liberal approach to asylum-seekers. And, who knows, he may even live up to his promise to be less vile to his colleagues.

noco · 31 August 2013

Macquack said:
GG and Kevin Rudd are both Queenslanders, and Queenslanders stick together.

GG is just putting out the "QUEENSLANDER" call.

If you ever watch a State of Origin match, you will understand.

Good old Laurie Oakes who is normally pro Labor believes Rudney Rude will be a lonely figure next Saturday night.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...t-saturday-night/story-e6freon6-1226707822622

drsmith · 31 August 2013

IFocus said:
Life is much better under Labor after all, says study

How much of that is the Coalition's tax cuts that Labor matched in its first term ?

drsmith · 31 August 2013

The coming electoral disaster for Labor,

In NSW, Labor faces a coastal wipeout, with five marginal seats - Dobell, Robertson, Kingsford-Smith, Page and Eden-Monaro - all held by margins of 5.2 per cent or less but facing a 6 per cent swing to the Coalition that would leave it represented mostly only around Wollongong and Newcastle.

In addition to the three ALP Victorian seats that are likely to fall and the five NSW coastal seats, there are up to 10 Labor seats at risk in western Sydney. Given the two independent seats of Lyne and New England are also going strongly to the Coalition, Tony Abbott could pick up 20 seats just in NSW and Victoria.

The results of polling in marginal electorates and independent-held seats suggest that the Coalition could pick up between 20 and 26 seats.

ABC Insider's host Barrie Caasidy will have one last chance to grace the bedside of his mortally wounded political messiah while his panel (whoever they are) read the last rites.

The wake for Labor will then begin early with their campaign launch. One former Labor PM who is not in a rush to attend either the messiah's political bedside or the wake is Julia Gillard. The only question there is whether she ultimately does a little dance on the grave in the dark of night or in the bright light of day. She might have to join a queue of her former colleagues if it's the latter.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...out-in-marginals/story-fn9qr68y-1226707926995

Judd · 31 August 2013

Putting aside who or who will not win, either Federally or in specific seats, people may be interested in reading Anthony greens election blog

http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2013/08/voting-below-the-line-in-the-senate.html#more

about strategic voting and in preparing your own voting paper according to the web-sites for which he has provided a link.

Roll on Saturday, 7 September 2013.

noco · 31 August 2013

drsmith said:
The coming electoral disaster for Labor,

ABC Insider's host Barrie Caasidy will have one last chance to grace the bedside of his mortally wounded political messiah while his panel (whoever they are) read the last rites.

The wake for Labor will then begin early with their campaign launch. One former Labor PM who is not in a rush to attend either the messiah's political bedside or the wake is Julia Gillard. The only question there is whether she ultimately does a little dance on the grave in the dark of night or in the bright light of day. She might have to join a queue of her former colleagues if it's the latter.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...out-in-marginals/story-fn9qr68y-1226707926995

I believe Rudd will die a slow death from Julia Gillards slow poisoning which started on Thursday with the Treasury and there will be more to come next week.

It is called revenge.

drsmith · 31 August 2013

noco said:
I believe Rudd will die a slow death from Julia Gillards slow poisoning which started on Thursday with the Treasury and there will be more to come next week.

It is called revenge.

With regards to that so-called budget black hole, I did note this in The Australian's description of events.

The Treasury secretary was at a workshop of all commonwealth department secretaries, who are preoccupied with preparing incoming government briefs. They had all gathered the previous night for a farewell dinner for former prime minister Julia Gillard.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...le-of-own-making/story-fn9qr68y-1226707924612

banco · 31 August 2013

You guys are absolutely delusional if you think Gillard had any influence whatsoever on the statement from Treasury and Finance.

drsmith · 31 August 2013

banco said:
You guys are absolutely delusional if you think Gillard had any influence whatsoever on the statement from Treasury and Finance.

My reading of the above from The Australian is that Julia Gillard had better professional relations with these officials than Kevin Rudd currently enjoys.

Garpal Gumnut said:
Rudd will win.

Not by very much.

But he will.

He is such a stable, intelligent, intuitive, caring, considerate and empathic man, it is difficult to believe him not.

gg

You've been drinking at the wrong establishment.

There must be plenty of others to choose from that are more upbeat.

The Galaxy poll for The Townsville Bulletin showed the LNP leading Labor 57-43 on a two-party preferred basis in Dawson and 55-45 on a two-party preferred basis in Herbert.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...-to-election-win/story-fn9qr68y-1226708053714

Is Bill shorten also loosing his cool ?

banco · 31 August 2013

Secretaries of Government Departments are almost invariably careerists. The issuing of the statement on Thursday probably wouldn't have happened if it looked like Rudd was going to win.

bunyip · 31 August 2013

IFocus said:
Oh well Abbott will be PM and Australia will become know as having voted in a brainless Tosser for PM such is life.

Australia is already known as having voted in a brainless tosser for PM six years ago.

I reckon you’ll still be calling Abbot a tosser even if he.....

* Stops the boats and regains control of our borders.
* Brings us back to budget surpluses and reduces our debt to more responsible levels.
* Reverses Labor’s funding cuts to Customs services, defense, health, and universities.
* Reduces wasteful expenditure.
* Starts the ball rolling in developing the potential of northern Australia.
* Gives us stable, responsible government in place of the infighting that has plagued Labor for years on end.

Yep, Abbot will always be a tosser in the eyes of you and your kind, no matter how well he performs.

Julia · 31 August 2013

drsmith said:
My reading of the above from The Australian is that Julia Gillard had better professional relations with these officials than Kevin Rudd currently enjoys.

You're probably right there. People who worked with her seemed to find her approachable and reasonable.

She seems to be moving on with her life so good for her. Apparently she's in the process of moving to Adelaide where Adelaide University has made her an Honorary Professor.
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2013/08/30/gillard-receive-honorary-professorship

sydboy007 · 31 August 2013

bunyip said:
Australia is already known as having voted in a brainless tosser for PM six years ago.

I reckon you’ll still be calling Abbot a tosser even if he.....

* Stops the boats and regains control of our borders.
* Brings us back to budget surpluses and reduces our debt to more responsible levels.
* Reverses Labor’s funding cuts to Customs services, defense, health, and universities.
* Reduces wasteful expenditure.
* Starts the ball rolling in developing the potential of northern Australia.
* Gives us stable, responsible government in place of the infighting that has plagued Labor for years on end.

Yep, Abbot will always be a tosser in the eyes of you and your kind, no matter how well he performs.

If Abbott can achieve half of that I'll gladly take back my prediction he'll be the George Bushg Junior of Aussie PMs.

His ucrfrent populist form doesn't inspire great confidence in me. It will be interesting to see how he manages the change from all debt is due purely to Govt mismanagement to his acceptance there will probably be a few more years of deficits while the rest of the ToT fall flows through revenue and teh slow adjustment from the decline in mining investment washed through the economy.

dutchie · 31 August 2013

drsmith said:
The coming electoral disaster for Labor,

ABC Insider's host Barrie Caasidy will have one last chance to grace the bedside of his mortally wounded political messiah while his panel (whoever they are) read the last rites.

The wake for Labor will then begin early with their campaign launch. One former Labor PM who is not in a rush to attend either the messiah's political bedside or the wake is Julia Gillard. The only question there is whether she ultimately does a little dance on the grave in the dark of night or in the bright light of day. She might have to join a queue of her former colleagues if it's the latter.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...out-in-marginals/story-fn9qr68y-1226707926995

Apparently Tony Abbott will be the guest.

So_Cynical · 31 August 2013

bunyip said:
What perplexes me is why Kevin Rudd was ever seen as ‘popular’.

Thinking the fact that for the first time in (Modern) Australian federal political history, a sitting PM lost his seat...may, just may have something to do with the "popular" tag.

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Found this interesting map of all the seats and who holds them, colour coded.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/federal-election-2013/map/

Judd · 31 August 2013

So_Cynical said:
Thinking the fact that for the first time in Australian federal political history, a sitting PM lost his seat...may, just may have something to do with the "popular" tag.

Stanley Bruce in 1929 and John Howard in 2007, so there have been two precedents.

drsmith · 31 August 2013

dutchie said:
Apparently Tony Abbott will be the guest.

He's timed that very well.

Barrie himself knows what's coming for labor as it goes from government to wilderness,

Labor's internal hatreds have been percolating ever since the negotiated victory in 2010. After September 7, the lid will blow sky high.

The fireworks may well commence during the broadcast of the election count itself next Saturday evening.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-30/cassidy-this-is-the-calm-before-the-political-storm/4922744

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