Garpal Gumnut
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Watch this space, it will come brother. Its already available a la carte in Saudi and Iran, courtesy of the courts as well.
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Our justice system may not be perfect, but all these suggestions for hangings, castration, mulitalation and floggings makes me mighty glad we have courts and not mob rule.
Watch this space, it will come brother. Its already available a la carte in Saudi and Iran, courtesy of the courts as well.
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Yep. Chemical castration is already in force in some countries.
A few states in the US, Poland, Argentina just off the top of my head.
It will be a way of the future. And rightly so IMO. Do the crime, do the time. Eye for an eye. Whatever you wanna term it.
I'm not sure if I dare raise a question in the face of so much determination to adopt extreme measures, but wrongful convictions have happened.
Yes, I know this is a hoary old chestnut when you are all filled with so much righteousness about how to deal with criminals, but just recently a bloke who was apparently wrongfully convicted of murder here in Qld, and who has served 15 years, has now been released and will not be retried.
How can you be so sure our police service always gets it right? Or the DPP?
Bad enough to wrongfully imprison someone, but a helluva lot worse to hang them.
I'm not sure if I dare raise a question in the face of so much determination to adopt extreme measures, but wrongful convictions have happened.
Yes, I know this is a hoary old chestnut when you are all filled with so much righteousness about how to deal with criminals, but just recently a bloke who was apparently wrongfully convicted of murder here in Qld, and who has served 15 years, has now been released and will not be retried.
How can you be so sure our police service always gets it right? Or the DPP?
Bad enough to wrongfully imprison someone, but a helluva lot worse to hang them.
That is indeed interesting. Perhaps something to do with my earlier suggestion that rape isn't much about sex?Looking back over the stack of medical journal articles I used last year for an assignment on this topic, there's a vast majority of the "against argument" that happen to be female. Now that's very interesting indeed considering they are the ones to be at most risk. I would have thought it would be the opposite. Must look into that one.
That is indeed interesting. Perhaps something to do with my earlier suggestion that rape isn't much about sex?
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That prison doesn't work can be shown by the high rates of recidivism, especially if the offending begins in a very young person.
Removing serious offenders from society is often going to be necessary, but it needs to be accompanied by some constructive programmes.
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I've said it before on this forum, and it usually brings a reaction of 'it wouldn't work here'.
I'll say it again now....If you want to become proficient at something, learn from someone who's already proficient.
There's no better example than Singapore when it comes to crime control. It's one of the safest places in the world, with one of the lowest crime rates.
They don't muck around if you break the law in Singapore - they hit you and they hit you hard.
We should take a leaf out of their book by learning their methods and implementing them here. Our escalating crime rate would quickly be brought under control.
Law abiding citizens would control the streets, not criminals. Our neighbourhoods would be safe again.
Would it be restrictive to live in a society with such no-no-nonsense rules? I don't think so. I've spent time in Singapore. I was free to do the normal things that law abiding citizens do, and I was able to do them in safety.
Your example of Singapore reinforces this fact, an example would be school leavers week does that happen in Singapore do they teach their kids that getting wasted is OK?
Weak state politicians both lib and labor love people like you who blame judges and lawyers for the social failures, pass nasty laws give the police more powers out side of the court system etc to prove how tough on crime they are as this wins elections but wont address the issues.
Antoinette Kennedy a judge here in the West (has seen more of lifes rejects than most)just retired spoke on this very subject a number of times pointing out that the court system isn't going to fix social issues.
Your example of Singapore reinforces this fact, an example would be school leavers week does that happen in Singapore do they teach their kids that getting wasted is OK?
If you are asserting that rape is primarily about sex, not domination, violence, and anger toward women, why do only a few men rape, but many have a preoccupation with sex?Rape is about sex all right! Not only sex - there are various other factors at play as well, with control being right up there as one of the prime motivators. But rape is definitely about sex.
In the trial of rapists it frequently comes out that the rapist has had an ongoing problem controlling his sexual lust for women.
For example, Luke Colless, the Brisbane bikeway rapist, has a history of being a peeping tom - looking through the windows of women's bedrooms and bathrooms in the hope of seeing them undressed.
I've heard various other stories of rapists who had histories as sexual perverts before becoming a full-on rapist.
In one case I heard of about ten years back, several women testified that over the years the rapist had engaged in various indecent acts such as putting his hand up their skirts on public transport, grabbing their breasts, making lewd comments of a sexual nature, etc etc.
Well you're a smart lad, IFocus - you proved it over on the flying fox thread!!
So what's your solution to our escalating crime rate?
If you are asserting that rape is primarily about sex, not domination, violence, and anger toward women, why do only a few men rape, but many have a preoccupation with sex?
If the main motivation was sexual, and the predator was unable to find willing partners, why wouldn't he use a prostitute?
There are plenty of opportunities for any male to satisfy purely sexual desire without the need to use violence or force.
Your anecdotal examples above could all be described as lack of respect toward/anger toward women, and would clearly be a means of intimidation.
Ditto the peeping tom story: you have no way of knowing what he may have been fantasising about whilst doing this.
I've been raped. It was all about anger and the need to dominate and humiliate.
Weak state politicians both lib and labor love people like you who blame judges and lawyers for the social failures, pass nasty laws give the police more powers out side of the court system etc to prove how tough on crime they are as this wins elections but wont address the issues.
Antoinette Kennedy a judge here in the West (has seen more of lifes rejects than most)just retired spoke on this very subject a number of times pointing out that the court system isn't going to fix social issues.
Your example of Singapore reinforces this fact, an example would be school leavers week does that happen in Singapore do they teach their kids that getting wasted is OK?
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As the saying goes, anyone can pull down a house, but it's far more difficult to build a better one in its place.
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I've been raped. It was all about anger and the need to dominate and humiliate.
Our legal system needs a complete overhaul - there are too many cases these days where it's just not achieving the objectives it was designed to achieve.
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