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Reading the local paper here the other day and there was an article about a DRUNK DRIVER who had two (yes 2) lifetime bans and guess what, he was pulled over for DIU and no licence. The judge banned his licence for a further 9 months and gave him a $600 fine ! Oh yeah ... a 7 month jail sentence as well but suspended for 12 months. Hah ah aha ha ha hha haaaaaaaa ! What's the point? If this eeeeeeeeejit had killed someone whilst driving pissed then I am sure he would have got let off on some technicality ??
I have much much more contempt for country's with totalitarian regimes who throw people in places like "black prisons" in China, re-education camps or neo-gulags without trial and/or lawyers.
If you want to live in a country that denies legal representation to people then I suggest you move to China Bunyip. Hopefully then you'll wake up and realise what a great country Australia is and the fact that we do have a justice system that is transparent and while not perfect tries it best to uphold the rights of everyone. Or we could act like a bunch of totalitarian dictators and be the laughing stock of the world.
The fact that legal representation is guaranteed to offenders in Australia is an essential part of the democratic system. If you want justice to be served, then people need to go trial. It's as simple as that. If you don't like it then find another place to live.
....I think capital punishment definitely has a place, and penalties should be more along the lines of community work (lots of it) rather than imprisonment.
Are you serious?
In the case of the old bitty getting brutalised for a measly $20, the perp should be locked away and NEVER allowed back into the community.
Better still, HANG HIM AND HANG HIM FRIGGEN HIGH. Cheaper, more effective and short 'n' sweet.
There's no room on this earth for that sort of scum, period.
Read my posts again. You actually quoted me saying I think capital punishment has a place. If people are penalised without being killed, I don't think jail is a good option, for the reasons I described. I don't think there is generally much point in putting someone in prison, especially if it is for life. Prison costs money and generally turns a bad person into a worse person, or a good person into a bad person. If it is for life, it is a clear lose-lose situation. The only reason to give someone a life sentence in prison as opposed to execution is to burden our tax system, er, keep the squeamish public happy, or to allow for the possibility that they are actually innocent and might later be released. In cases of uncertain guilt, I think it would be much better to say "Well, we're not quite sure, so rather than imprison you and utterly destroy your life, you can go about things as usual, but we'll stick a tracker on you and you have to report to police every week" or something along those lines. If there is no doubt about guilt when it comes to unprovoked violent crimes, sure, don't hold back.
We are looking at a planet that is is going to be over populised for the resources available in the near future, new technologies aside, why should we let the scum of the Earth live, breed and breath, why waste everyone elses oxygen on them, castrate rapists and anyone who takes a life forfeits their own, pretty simple really, I don't believe in religion so I don't believe it is playing God, simply playing by fairer rules.
We are looking at a planet that is is going to be over populised for the resources available in the near future, new technologies aside, why should we let the scum of the Earth live, breed and breath, why waste everyone elses oxygen on them, castrate rapists and anyone who takes a life forfeits their own, pretty simple really, I don't believe in religion so I don't believe it is playing God, simply playing by fairer rules.
Happy, sterilising rapists wouldn't make the slightest difference. That just means they cannot make their victims pregnant. I suspect you mean castration, which I'd also contend would be ineffective.Maybe we could look at forced and irreversible sterilisation of rapists too.
2. Two young policemen in one of the southern states were called to sort out a man and his two sons who were drunk and disorderly outside a pub.
The drunks became violent when the police asked them to move on.
A violent scuffle ensued, and one of the offenders launched himself in a flying charge from behind one of the police, head-butted him in the back of the head, and left him brain damaged.
This particular case was featured in 'Australian Story' on TV recently.
The entire incident was filmed on security camera, with the footage being shown on Australian Story.
The offender got off scot free, as did his father and brother. They didn't even get a fine.
Meantime, the young policeman has been left with permanent brain damage.
It's also far cheaper to keep someone in prison for life than it is to execute them, considering the experience of one country that is as letigious as Australia that does have the death penalty; the US.If it is for life, it is a clear lose-lose situation. The only reason to give someone a life sentence in prison as opposed to execution is to burden our tax system, er, keep the squeamish public happy, or to allow for the possibility that they are actually innocent and might later be released.
I have much much more contempt for country's with totalitarian regimes who throw people in places like "black prisons" in China, re-education camps or neo-gulags without trial and/or lawyers.
If you want to live in a country that denies legal representation to people then I suggest you move to China Bunyip. Hopefully then you'll wake up and realise what a great country Australia is and the fact that we do have a justice system that is transparent and while not perfect tries it best to uphold the rights of everyone. Or we could act like a bunch of totalitarian dictators and be the laughing stock of the world.
The fact that legal representation is guaranteed to offenders in Australia is an essential part of the democratic system. If you want justice to be served, then people need to go trial. It's as simple as that. If you don't like it then find another place to live.
I assume you are referring to the Matthew Butcher and the McLeods incident that happened in Perth a while back.
This incident had a HUGE impact on things here, it got us mandatory sentencing for attacking police, ambos and some others.
http://www.abc.net.au/local/audio/2009/09/22/2693127.htm
Also, from things I remember reading (there were conflicting stories), I am pretty sure there were more than two police and three men involved. Police also tried to taser an "innocent" (which was the father) and that was why he was attacked, allegedly. The McLeods were involved because they tried to help throw out another rowdy group from the pub.
This was a huge thing over here, it was in the media for a long time and there were protests and law changes. I think one of the McLeods got a fine.
Anyway, the point is, so many things happened because of this incident that I am not sure are all good (e.g. mandatory sentencing can be abused by the cops).
I personally don't think McLeod should've gotten off the charge of attacking the policeman but a JURY decided this, not a judge. So what can you do?
....Rape is much less about the sexual urge and much more about violence and control....
The underlying principle behind punishment is to deter people from committing the crime in the first place. If we sent 100% of criminals to prison and it were common knowledge that this occurred then we would have very, very few criminals.The problem is, if you stick someone in prison it costs the taxpayer a lot of money (if we were magically able to catch all the criminals we wouldn't come close to having the resources to imprison them all).
The underlying principle behind punishment is to deter people from committing the crime in the first place. If we sent 100% of criminals to prison and it were common knowledge that this occurred then we would have very, very few criminals.
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