Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[SirRumpole]

Not really mate

Because, it will need defending at some point in the future, probably sooner rather than later.

From what ?

 

[McLovin]

Not really mate

Because, it will need defending at some point in the future, probably sooner rather than later.

That wasn't the supposition. I can spot a declarative question from 100 yards. In fog.

 

[notting]

The last every time some white guys have plans for a place, they all ended up.. well, not well.

The white guys do a much 'nicer' job than the Chinese. You end up with places like Hong Kong, South Korea and even Taiwan. None of whom want to be back in the arms of the mother fuc@er land of psychopathic torture, extortion environmental destruction - CHINA.

You also need to get Putin's soft voice plant for tards, Chomsky, out of your head.
Also your illumitardi ideas about the Clinton's and the 'elite's sitting in the shadows that you think they work for, whom no one seems to know who they are because the don't exist. Their all out in the open and are often at odds with each other and policies from left and right. There is no illumitardi conspiracy that you've brainwashed yourself into by reading to much Chomsky and watching Info wars like Youtube clips.

Get your head out of that and your analysis will become much clearer.

 

[luutzu]

The white guys do a much 'nicer' job than the Chinese. You end up with places like Hong Kong, South Korea and even Taiwan. None of whom want to be back in the arms of the mother fuc@er land of psychopathic torture, extortion environmental destruction - CHINA.

Would be the same whoever the master race is.

Those colonies that does better than others are so because their master have a different role and function assigned to them.

 

[moXJO]

Isn't the US economy at the highest gdp, jobs growth hitting highs and unemployment low.
As for the schools thats an issue in australia as well.
Americans specialize in a field, where as Aussies tend to know a little about a lot.
If I want to go as in depth about a subject as I can go, I'd head to the US.

 

[Tisme]

Isn't the US economy at the highest gdp, jobs growth hitting highs and unemployment low.
As for the schools thats an issue in australia as well.
Americans specialize in a field, where as Aussies tend to know a little about a lot.
If I want to go as in depth about a subject as I can go, I'd head to the US.

Debt is also not soaring past historical highs either.

health report:

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/indicators

 

[notting]

Would be the same whoever the master race is.

According to you, and most others out there, Whites have been the master race for centuries.
But not in many parts of Asia were China is becoming far more 'masterful'
Yet White'y never did this systematically to all those nations it 'colonised even 55 years after the initial invasion.

Activists claim Tibetan nuns are being illegally detained, sexually abused and brutally gang-raped at "political re-education" centers run by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) in this Himalayan region, part of a broader move to smother Tibetan culture.

On May 28, the Tibetan Center for Human Rights and Democracy (TCHRD) published a report titled "Torture and Sexual Abuse Rampant in China's 'Political Re-education' Centers." This isn't the first report to shine a light on how China is "normalizing" its violations of human rights in Tibet.

It cites the testimony of a monk who wrote an account of what he saw and heard at one such center in Sog County of Nagchu district in Tibet. This was reportedly funneled in secret to the TCHRD's office overseas.

While the monk was studying at a monastery in China's Qinghai province, which shares a border with Tibet, he said government officials turned up one day and warned he would face a series of punishments if he didn't leave immediately.

They gave him an ultimatum: Go back to Tibet or see your family arrested, your family's kids barred from school, and your relatives prohibited from collecting caterpillar fungus, an expensive herbal remedy that people in the region use to buttress their incomes.

Finally he was detained in a political re-education center. Officials insisted it was not a prison but "a school," he said, adding he quickly realized that was a lie.

Most of those detained at the center were monks and nuns who were expelled from the Larung Gar Buddhist Academy or Yarchen Gar Buddhist Institute, he said. Both Buddhist training venues were demolished by the CCP.

According to the monk's testimony, the aim was to "brainwash" them on political and ideological grounds by forcing them to memorize "red" (Communist) songs, make them undergo Chinese military training, and instructing them to criticize and denounce their peers and spiritual leaders, including the Dalai Lama.

The Chinese resorted to torture, the most egregious example of which was the molestation of Buddhist nuns, wrote the monk, who had been detained for several months when he penned his account.

"A lot of the nuns would faint during their military training and the supervisors would rush them to their rooms. I saw them fondle their breasts and grope them all over," he wrote.

"I heard some of the supervisors took advantage of the unconscious nuns in other ways back back at their rooms," he added.

Claims of Party cadres sexually assaulting nuns date back to the (1966-76) Cultural Revolution, or even earlier.

At that time, the (officially atheist) Party mandated that monks and nuns must marry. It forced many to engage in sexual intercourse openly in a bid to smash their religious beliefs and force them to resume a secular life.

In November 1988, Britain's BBC broadcast a documentary shot secretly in Tibet detailing the experiences of 12 Tibetans who had suffered abuse at the hands of the Party.

One nun broke down and cried as she recalled the appalling treatment she had suffered.

"My abusers handcuffed me, brought me to a police station and pushed me to the ground," she said.

"They stepped on my face, Tasered my chest and kicked me. Then they took off our clothes and three or four people raped us with a baton."

Another nun added: "We were constantly raped by seven or eight people. They left us naked."

There are many recorded cases of Tibetan Buddhist nuns being raped by police and prison guards of the Communist Party.

Some activists claim this is a deliberate policy to weaken the influence of Buddhist temples, as the nuns cannot keep serving the order once they have been "defiled."

But while these centers were primarily focused on stifling dissent or any perceived threat to the Communist Party's rule through means of suppression, they are now more aggressively trying to "educationally transform" their wards.

Former inmates say the conditions have become more militarized and prison-camp-like, with forced marches, drills and patriotic songs now the norm.

Critics say Beijing is trying to break them down spiritually by insulting their beliefs and subjecting them to acts that go against their religion and put them in a quandary, unable to resume monastic life upon their release.

They want to separate Tibetan intellectuals, monks and nuns from their traditions and beliefs and turn them into Party-abiding Han Chinese, activists claim.

Since the Party invaded Tibet in 1950, forcing a young Dalai Lama to flee to India for sanctuary in 1959, it has viewed these guardians of Tibet's traditional culture and religious beliefs as a threat.

Tibetan rights organizations are now urging the international community to intervene as this state-sanctioned oppression reaches what they describe as a "a new level of terror" with the centers seen as nothing more than "labor reform camps" in disguise.


The same and worse happens in East Turkistan (Also invaded and Occupied by China for over 50 years) to Muslims as well as force feeding them Alcohol every day during Ramadan.
We really don't want them running Australia which they are starting to do more and more.

Nor has Whitey master race ever done this to other Whities as did the Chinese Communist Party - During his campaign of terror to eliminate real or imagined opponents of his regime, Mao Zedong set an official killing quota of one per thousand members of the population, although he tolerated up to three per thousand.
The idea was to keep the population in a general state of terror so they would never speak out against the Chinese Communist Party. Nothing has changed since then, as you can see.

If only the English had stayed in China. It would all be like Hong Kong and they never would have been through the hells and hells to come under the Chinese.

 

[Tisme]

According to you, and most others out there, Whites have been the master race for centuries.
But not in many parts of Asia were China is becoming far more 'masterful'
Yet White'y never did this systematically to all those nations it 'colonised even 55 years after the initial invasion.

Given enough time Guardian will revise history to show you are incorrect.

 

[luutzu]

According to you, and most others out there, Whites have been the master race for centuries.
But not in many parts of Asia were China is becoming far more 'masterful'
Yet White'y never did this systematically to all those nations it 'colonised even 55 years after the initial invasion. The same and worse happens in East Turkistan to Muslims as well as force feeding them Alcohol every day during Ramadan.
We really don't want them running Australia which they are starting to do more and more.

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Activists claim Tibetan nuns are being illegally detained, sexually abused and brutally gang-raped at "political re-education" centers run by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) in this Himalayan region, part of a broader move to smother Tibetan culture.

On May 28, the Tibetan Center for Human Rights and Democracy (TCHRD) published a report titled "Torture and Sexual Abuse Rampant in China's 'Political Re-education' Centers." This isn't the first report to shine a light on how China is "normalizing" its violations of human rights in Tibet.

It cites the testimony of a monk who wrote an account of what he saw and heard at one such center in Sog County of Nagchu district in Tibet. This was reportedly funneled in secret to the TCHRD's office overseas.

While the monk was studying at a monastery in China's Qinghai province, which shares a border with Tibet, he said government officials turned up one day and warned he would face a series of punishments if he didn't leave immediately.

They gave him an ultimatum: Go back to Tibet or see your family arrested, your family's kids barred from school, and your relatives prohibited from collecting caterpillar fungus, an expensive herbal remedy that people in the region use to buttress their incomes.

Finally he was detained in a political re-education center. Officials insisted it was not a prison but "a school," he said, adding he quickly realized that was a lie.

Most of those detained at the center were monks and nuns who were expelled from the Larung Gar Buddhist Academy or Yarchen Gar Buddhist Institute, he said. Both Buddhist training venues were demolished by the CCP.

According to the monk's testimony, the aim was to "brainwash" them on political and ideological grounds by forcing them to memorize "red" (Communist) songs, make them undergo Chinese military training, and instructing them to criticize and denounce their peers and spiritual leaders, including the Dalai Lama.

The Chinese resorted to torture, the most egregious example of which was the molestation of Buddhist nuns, wrote the monk, who had been detained for several months when he penned his account.

"A lot of the nuns would faint during their military training and the supervisors would rush them to their rooms. I saw them fondle their breasts and grope them all over," he wrote.

"I heard some of the supervisors took advantage of the unconscious nuns in other ways back back at their rooms," he added.

Claims of Party cadres sexually assaulting nuns date back to the (1966-76) Cultural Revolution, or even earlier.

At that time, the (officially atheist) Party mandated that monks and nuns must marry. It forced many to engage in sexual intercourse openly in a bid to smash their religious beliefs and force them to resume a secular life.

In November 1988, Britain's BBC broadcast a documentary shot secretly in Tibet detailing the experiences of 12 Tibetans who had suffered abuse at the hands of the Party.

One nun broke down and cried as she recalled the appalling treatment she had suffered.

"My abusers handcuffed me, brought me to a police station and pushed me to the ground," she said.

"They stepped on my face, Tasered my chest and kicked me. Then they took off our clothes and three or four people raped us with a baton."

Another nun added: "We were constantly raped by seven or eight people. They left us naked."

There are many recorded cases of Tibetan Buddhist nuns being raped by police and prison guards of the Communist Party.

Some activists claim this is a deliberate policy to weaken the influence of Buddhist temples, as the nuns cannot keep serving the order once they have been "defiled."

But while these centers were primarily focused on stifling dissent or any perceived threat to the Communist Party's rule through means of suppression, they are now more aggressively trying to "educationally transform" their wards.

Former inmates say the conditions have become more militarized and prison-camp-like, with forced marches, drills and patriotic songs now the norm.

Critics say Beijing is trying to break them down spiritually by insulting their beliefs and subjecting them to acts that go against their religion and put them in a quandary, unable to resume monastic life upon their release.

They want to separate Tibetan intellectuals, monks and nuns from their traditions and beliefs and turn them into Party-abiding Han Chinese, activists claim.

Since the Party invaded Tibet in 1950, forcing a young Dalai Lama to flee to India for sanctuary in 1959, it has viewed these guardians of Tibet's traditional culture and religious beliefs as a threat.

Tibetan rights organizations are now urging the international community to intervene as this state-sanctioned oppression reaches what they describe as a "a new level of terror" with the centers seen as nothing more than "labor reform camps" in disguise.

Don't take what I say as somehow defending Chinese or Asian or any form of imperialism and its butcheries.

They're all nasty. All States are violent.

So to think that if, say, Western or democratic imperialists would be nicer or kinder on their subject... that's just not a reality. Never have.

I think the only people who can stop the comrades in Beijing from those violence and act of genocide are the Chinese people themselves. No foreign power would care to, or would be able to, do it.

And the only hope of that ever happening would be the Chinese people, I think anyway, growing richer and more informed about the world. They're not going to be more liberal and progressive if they're worried about starvation.

I mean, just look at the US. Segregation and legalised racism were in full swing until about the late 50s? That's not a long time ago. Just a few generation.

Also happen to coincide with the American Middle Class growing richer and more educated and informed.

Of course that doesn't mean imperialism stops. The US head honchos still go around the world liberating and bringing democracy to every one with good land and good resources. But they do it more discretely, with less violence; need a lot more convincing and public relation.

That doesn't mean too much but it does mean some hundreds of thousands of lives are saved. I mean, crap, if the Western population are still stuck in the pre-50s... all US presidents would use MOABs, napalm, carpet bombing and flatten entire villages in one go.

With more enlightened plebs, they can only put a couple craters into villages at a time. It's bad of course, just less bad.

Or take Syria, or Iraq and their dictators. Those guys were bad, the country could do better. But when war breaks out... a whole lot worst.

 

[notting]

Don't take what I say as somehow defending Chinese or Asian or any form of imperialism and its butcheries.

They're all nasty. All States are violent.

So to think that if, say, Western or democratic imperialists would be nicer or kinder on their subject... that's just not a reality. Never have.

I think the only people who can stop the comrades in Beijing from those violence and act of genocide are the Chinese people themselves. No foreign power would care to, or would be able to, do it.

And the only hope of that ever happening would be the Chinese people, I think anyway, growing richer and more informed about the world. They're not going to be more liberal and progressive if they're worried about starvation.

I mean, just look at the US. Segregation and legalised racism were in full swing until about the late 50s? That's not a long time ago. Just a few generation.

Also happen to coincide with the American Middle Class growing richer and more educated and informed.

Of course that doesn't mean imperialism stops. The US head honchos still go around the world liberating and bringing democracy to every one with good land and good resources. But they do it more discretely, with less violence; need a lot more convincing and public relation.

That doesn't mean too much but it does mean some hundreds of thousands of lives are saved. I mean, crap, if the Western population are still stuck in the pre-50s... all US presidents would use MOABs, napalm, carpet bombing and flatten entire villages in one go.

With more enlightened plebs, they can only put a couple craters into villages at a time. It's bad of course, just less bad.

Or take Syria, or Iraq and their dictators. Those guys were bad, the country could do better. But when war breaks out... a whole lot worst.

Chomsky false equivalencies on steroids.
You really should get that ugly old octopus off your face so you can see...

 

[luutzu]

Chomsky false equivalencies on steroids.
You really should get that ugly old octopus off your face so you can see...

If we ask a slave which master they'd rather have, the white or the yellow... they'd probably say they would rather have no master.

So unless Uncle Sam goes to Asia to help free the Asians from Chinese imperialism for the sake of humanity, why would American imperialism be better than a Chinese one?

The good guys just don't do empire building. If they're in it, they're in it for the booty. All else are just PR.

 

[Tisme]

If we ask a slave which master they'd rather have, the white or the yellow... they'd probably say they would rather have no master.

So unless Uncle Sam goes to Asia to help free the Asians from Chinese imperialism for the sake of humanity, why would American imperialism be better than a Chinese one?

The good guys just don't do empire building. If they're in it, they're in it for the booty. All else are just PR.

You'll have to wait for a reply, because these guys are probably high powered 9-5 office boys and on the bus by now.

 

[notting]

You'll have to wait for a reply, because these guys are probably high powered 9-5 office boys and on the bus by now.

Yeah, probably not another unemployable sophomoric, making puerile observations on the state of global affairs, in a pathetic attempt to make him/herself feel better about his/her hapless and helpless lot in life sitting at home in his dank seamen smelling little room.
No, probably not Claiming to be nothing but the the innocent paralytic consequence of the elite having always conspired against him/her.
No. probably not claiming that it has nothing to do with one's self induced sense of inadequacy as a result of inability to commit to anything other than thrashing oneself unendingly under the desk to the latest pornafied pixel of a girl friend. A life of sad mimickery of what it is to be a real man.
Yes that! Rather than actually doing something by stepping up and taking the real world by the horns! Oh but rather wallow in endless justifications fed by the wrinkly old tit of Chomsky and co happily funded by Putin and his legion of memes and trolls.
Yes probably on the way home from a real job, or retired from such with wealth to spare. An elite, if you will.
Carry on dear........

 

[Tisme]

Yeah, probably not another unemployable sophomoric, making puerile observations on the state of global affairs, in a pathetic attempt to make him/herself feel better about his/her hapless and helpless lot in life sitting at home in his dank seamen smelling little room.
No, probably not Claiming to be nothing but the the innocent paralytic consequence of the elite having always conspired against him/her.
No. probably not claiming that it has nothing to do with one's self induced sense of inadequacy as a result of inability to commit to anything other than thrashing oneself unendingly under the desk to the latest pornafied pixel of a girl friend. A life of sad mimickery of what it is to be a real man.
Yes that! Rather than actually doing something by stepping up and taking the real world by the horns! Oh but rather wallow in endless justifications fed by the wrinkly old tit of Chomsky and co happily funded by Putin and his legion of memes and trolls -
Carry on dear........

Wot?

If you are talking about Chomsky he's just another of a long line of Wallys who think they have a monopoly on smarts.

 

[luutzu]

Yeah, probably not another unemployable sophomoric, making puerile observations on the state of global affairs, in a pathetic attempt to make him/herself feel better about his/her hapless and helpless lot in life sitting at home in his dank seamen smelling little room.
No, probably not Claiming to be nothing but the the innocent paralytic consequence of the elite having always conspired against him/her.
No. probably not claiming that it has nothing to do with one's self induced sense of inadequacy as a result of inability to commit to anything other than thrashing oneself unendingly under the desk to the latest pornafied pixel of a girl friend. A life of sad mimickery of what it is to be a real man.
Yes that! Rather than actually doing something by stepping up and taking the real world by the horns! Oh but rather wallow in endless justifications fed by the wrinkly old tit of Chomsky and co happily funded by Putin and his legion of memes and trolls.
Yes probably on the way home from a real job, or retired from such with wealth to spare. An elite, if you will.
Carry on dear........

Wait... I get a sense that you're insulting me. Dude, I got feelings man.

Come on man, I know you hate the Comrades in China, who doesn't really. So it's all good.

Just when we want to discuss "world affairs"... alright, talk rubbish... got to be more objective you know. Else it's just opinions.

 

[Tisme]

Wait... I get a sense that you're insulting me. Dude, I got feelings man.

.

You do know you are only an avatar don't you?

 

[notting]

Wait... I get a sense that you're insulting me. Dude, I got feelings man

No. Not you. More like a particular 'spirit' I have a habit of beating to death as I have seen a lot of it's carnage on well meaning dudes in my time!!

 

[luutzu]

No. Not you. Just a particular 'spirit' I have a habit of beating to death as I have seen a lot of it's carnage on well meaning dudes in my time!!

Nothing wrong with hating evil, corrupt greed and ill gotten gains. Just as long as it's not done out of that sour-grape sense of excusing failed ambition.

Some might hate greed and corruption and not hate wealth. The two don't have to be the same.

Some might see the gaining of fortune dishonestly as something to despise and yet not necessarily hate great wealth... as long as it was gained honestly. Like what's his face... Cicero. Self-made, honest and honorable... yea alright he got his throat slit by Augustus but yea

 

[Tisme]

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[basilio]

You and Trump make a great team don't you "12C" Tizzie. Just made for each each other I reckon.