Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[basilio]

Trump doesn't seem to get along with any of the World's Leaders except for Kim and Vladimir lol

Not quite true Darc. He is very supportive of the new Polish PM, the Turkish PM as well the Phillipines strong man. See any pattern there ?

 

[basilio]

6 Strongmen Trump Has Praised — And The Conflicts It Presents

May 2, 201711:43 AM ET

 

[SirRumpole]

in excess of 40% registered voters apparently, which might translate into a much higher % of poll voters.

Well, that's just saying that 60% disapprove.

 

[moXJO]

Some hard truths.

 

[notting]

So essentially, the Authors believes the Queen is trolling Trump, appalling disrespect basically, yet howls about Trump not slavishly kissing her 4ss.

The astonishing thing is that because of their pathology, they have no idea of their megalithic hypocrisy.

If the Queen truly was trolling Trump (which I doubt) , then I have lost all respect for her

When a president visits the queen one imagines he would a offer gift on behalf of the 'People of the United States' The queen wearing it could just as easily be a sign of respect and show of gratitude for the friendship of the US by wearing the broach 'they' gave her last time!!
She also could just be fishing for another one!

 

[notting]

 

[notting]

Some hard truths.

Yes but, we haven't exactly had enough time to see what Putin does next, have we..........?

 

[basilio]

Excellent analysis of what is happening via the Trump presidency

There's no doubt we’re watching the weirdest of presidencies
Waleed Aly19 July 2018 — 11:10am

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There’s no doubt we’re watching the weirdest of presidencies. But if, as I suspect, Donald Trump is a reflection of our times rather than someone who shapes them, it follows there is plenty of weirdness to go around. What Trump has done in his unhinged way is show how the world is inverted, with people quite happy to embrace positions they would only recently have considered heresy.

You can see this if you look past the weirdness of an American president seriously trying to convince us he just accidentally said the opposite of what he meant when he attacked his own intelligence agencies so clearly, preferring the word of his Russian counterpart.
So people who were once suspicious of American intelligence agencies – you know, because they massively misled us over Iraq’s weapons program and helped precipitate perhaps the worst foreign policy mistake since Vietnam – suddenly seem to think it’s treasonous for a president to dismiss them.

Meanwhile, it’s the super-patriots who so enthusiastically supported this most conspicuously patriotic of presidents – and who despise any hint of American weakness on the world stage – who seem to have little problem with the fact that Trump just genuflected before the Russian president. Not just any foreign leader – the leader of America’s cartoon enemy of 70 years.

Polls have now emerged showing that only 55 per cent of Americans disapprove of how Trump handled the occasion. That’s roughly the same number who disapprove of Trump generally. His approval rating has stayed still. Bottom line, this seems to have been a moment when everyone gets angry, but no one changes their mind.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/wo...weirdest-of-presidencies-20180719-p4zscr.html

 

[moXJO]

Excellent analysis of what is happening via the Trump presidency

There's no doubt we’re watching the weirdest of presidencies
Waleed Aly19 July 2018 — 11:10am

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There’s no doubt we’re watching the weirdest of presidencies. But if, as I suspect, Donald Trump is a reflection of our times rather than someone who shapes them, it follows there is plenty of weirdness to go around. What Trump has done in his unhinged way is show how the world is inverted, with people quite happy to embrace positions they would only recently have considered heresy.

You can see this if you look past the weirdness of an American president seriously trying to convince us he just accidentally said the opposite of what he meant when he attacked his own intelligence agencies so clearly, preferring the word of his Russian counterpart.
So people who were once suspicious of American intelligence agencies – you know, because they massively misled us over Iraq’s weapons program and helped precipitate perhaps the worst foreign policy mistake since Vietnam – suddenly seem to think it’s treasonous for a president to dismiss them.

Meanwhile, it’s the super-patriots who so enthusiastically supported this most conspicuously patriotic of presidents – and who despise any hint of American weakness on the world stage – who seem to have little problem with the fact that Trump just genuflected before the Russian president. Not just any foreign leader – the leader of America’s cartoon enemy of 70 years.

Polls have now emerged showing that only 55 per cent of Americans disapprove of how Trump handled the occasion. That’s roughly the same number who disapprove of Trump generally. His approval rating has stayed still. Bottom line, this seems to have been a moment when everyone gets angry, but no one changes their mind.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/wo...weirdest-of-presidencies-20180719-p4zscr.html

We really need to talk about Obama and Hillary as well. Obama tapped trump and hillary had the pee pee dossier made up from a private spy who was courting the Russians. Geese you think the Russians might of noticed the muck raking?
Isn't hillary in fact paying an ex-spy to pay the Russians for dirt on trump. Kind of close to what they accused trump of.

The dems also had a private company check their emails (had a large portion go missing) and private server after it was hacked. This is the company that declared Russian involvement to begin with. Private servers, private companies, missing emails, what were they hiding?

There are stories on both sides here.

 

[SirRumpole]

There are stories on both sides here.

Yeah, one released their tax returns, the other didn't.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37062123

 

[luutzu]

Yeah, one released their tax returns, the other didn't.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37062123

He did have them leaked for the couple years when it was really good.

There aren't many of those given his business genius and generosity... but yea, information control my friend.

As honest Abe once says, it's better to be assumed you're financially broke, spent your "charity" money on yourself... then release the tax returns to remove all doubts.

 

[luutzu]

We really need to talk about Obama and Hillary as well. Obama tapped trump and hillary had the pee pee dossier made up from a private spy who was courting the Russians. Geese you think the Russians might of noticed the muck raking?
Isn't hillary in fact paying an ex-spy to pay the Russians for dirt on trump. Kind of close to what they accused trump of.

The dems also had a private company check their emails (had a large portion go missing) and private server after it was hacked. This is the company that declared Russian involvement to begin with. Private servers, private companies, missing emails, what were they hiding?

There are stories on both sides here.

I heard that it was the Clintons and their DNC that wanted Trump to win the Republican nomination.

What with him being a blowhard billionaire who grabs women and hate colored people while she, well, she just want to make her mamma proud.

 

[basilio]

I find the madness of Trumps Presidency does my head in. A constant barrage of mad tweets, changing topics every couple of hours, no logic, little truth. Crazy xhit. I'm quite sure that I'm not Robinson Crusoe.

Anyway I came across an excellent explanation of what Donald Trump is doing. Be interested to hear other thoughts on this analysis.

 

[luutzu]

I find the madness of Trumps Presidency does my head in. A constant barrage of mad tweets, changing topics every couple of hours, no logic, little truth. Crazy xhit. I'm quite sure that I'm not Robinson Crusoe.

Anyway I came across an excellent explanation of what Donald Trump is doing. Be interested to hear other thoughts on this analysis.

Reiche gave Trump too much credit I think.

I agree with Chomsky's recent observation that, yes, Trump is just a distraction. A diversionary tactic. But Trump is not the mastermind. He's part of the "masters of mankind", doing his bits to distract the plebs while both parties loots the state treasury for those who really matter.

The democrats didn't put up much of a fight, if any, on "Trump's" military budgets; or tax cuts to the uber rich. They don't give two shiets about refugees and separated children; don't care about the consumer financial protection or the recent rolling back of what depositor's protection on "small" banks.

Small banks are defined as those with assets under $250B. That's one rich mom and pop operation right there. They can now help small businesses and local communities by being able to speculate with depositor's savings

So yes, Trump is a distraction. But he's not doing it to hide his other sleight of hand. It's a big club, both parties were invited.

 

[SirRumpole]

I find the madness of Trumps Presidency does my head in. A constant barrage of mad tweets, changing topics every couple of hours, no logic, little truth. Crazy xhit. I'm quite sure that I'm not Robinson Crusoe.

Anyway I came across an excellent explanation of what Donald Trump is doing. Be interested to hear other thoughts on this analysis.

I'm not sure you even need such a sophisticated analysis to tell what Trump is doing, it's pretty obvious that a sleazy businessman turned an even sleazier politician, but he's following the rules of all facists, create enemies and get people mobilised to fight each other and not him.

 

[basilio]

The games being played by the US. Interesting story on the riots in Iraq.

The US, electricity and Iran: What's behind the Iraq protests?
As protests continue across southern Iraq, some are questioning the role of the US in the ongoing unrest.

 

[moXJO]

Donald Trump is leading a double life. In the west, most foreign policy experts see him as reckless, unpredictable and self-defeating. But though many in Asia dislike him as much as the Europeans, they see him as a more substantial figure. I have just spent a week in Beijing talking to officials and intellectuals, many of whom are awed by his skill as a strategist and tactician.

One of the people I met was the former vice-foreign minister He Yafei. He shot to global prominence in 2009 when he delivered a finger-wagging lecture to President Barack Obama at the Copenhagen climate conference before blowing up hopes of a deal. He is somewhat less belligerent where Mr Trump is concerned. He worries that strategic competition has become the new normal and says that “trade wars are just the tip of the iceberg”.

Few Chinese think that Mr Trump’s primary concern is to rebalance the bilateral trade deficit. If it were, they say, he would have aligned with the EU, Japan and Canada against China rather than scooping up America’s allies in his tariff dragnet. They think the USpresident’s goal is nothing less than remaking the global order.


They think Mr Trump feels he is presiding over the relative decline of his great nation. It is not that the current order does not benefit the US. The problem is that it benefits others more in relative terms. To make things worse the US is investing billions of dollars and a fair amount of blood in supporting the very alliances and international institutions that are constraining America and facilitating China’s rise.

In Chinese eyes, Mr Trump’s response is a form of “creative destruction”. He is systematically destroying the existing institutions — from the World Trade Organization and the North American Free Trade Agreement to Nato and the Iran nuclear deal — as a first step towards renegotiating the world order on terms more favourable to Washington.

Once the order is destroyed, the Chinese elite believes, Mr Trump will move to stage two: renegotiating America’s relationship with other powers. Because the US is still the most powerful country in the world, it will be able to negotiate with other countries from a position of strength if it deals with them one at a time rather than through multilateral institutions that empower the weak at the expense of the strong.

My interlocutors say that Mr Trump is the US first president for more than 40 years to bash China on three fronts simultaneously: trade, military and ideology. They describe him as a master tactician, focusing on one issue at a time, and extracting as many concessions as he can. They speak of the skilful way Mr Trump has treated President Xi Jinping. “Look at how he handled North Korea,” one says. “He got Xi Jinping to agree to UN sanctions [half a dozen] times, creating an economic stranglehold on the country. China almost turned North Korea into a sworn enemy of the country.” But they also see him as a strategist, willing to declare a truce in each area when there are no more concessions to be had, and then start again with a new front.

For the Chinese, even Mr Trump’s sycophantic press conference with Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, in Helsinki had a strategic purpose. They see it as Henry Kissinger in reverse. In 1972, the US nudged China off the Soviet axis in order to put pressure on its real rival, the Soviet Union. Today Mr Trump is reaching out to Russia in order to isolate China.

In the short term, China is talking tough in response to Mr Trump’s trade assault. At the same time they are trying to develop a multiplayer front against him by reaching out to the EU, Japan and South Korea. But many Chinese experts are quietly calling for a rethink of the longer-term strategy. They want to prepare the ground for a new grand bargain with the US based on Chinese retrenchment. Many feel that Mr Xi has over-reached and worry that it was a mistake simultaneously to antagonise the US economically and militarily in the South China Sea.

Instead, they advocate economic concessions and a pullback from the aggressive tactics that have characterised China’s recent foreign policy. They call for a Chinese variant of “splendid isolationism”, relying on growing the domestic market rather than disrupting other countries’ economies by exporting industrial surpluses.

So which is the real Mr Trump? The reckless reactionary destroying critical alliances, or the “stable genius” who is pressuring China? The answer seems to depend on where you ask the question. Things look different from Beijing than from Brussels.

Interesting take.

 

[Darc Knight]

Interesting take.

Yes Trump has done some good things for the American economy. Pretty sure every step wasn't planned like the article suggests lol.
Of course Trump wants the economy to boom, he has a vested interest in it.
Wonder what the average black man/woman on minimum wage feels. Will the World be a better place post Trump?

 

[wayneL]

Yes Trump has done some good things for the American economy. Pretty sure every step wasn't planned like the article suggests lol.
Of course Trump wants the economy to boom, he has a vested interest in it.
Wonder what the average black man/woman on minimum wage feels. Will the World be a better place post Trump?

Black unemployment is the lowest EVAH!

So, yes it will, so long as the deranged left keep losing power

 

[SirRumpole]

So, yes it will, so long as the deranged left keep losing power

Leaning to the Left again wayne ?